Was Cell loyal to Doctor Gero?

Humpski · Post by **Humpski** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:01 pm

Someone on Gamefaqs brought this up.
If Gero had lived, do you think Cell would have obeyed him?

I agree with the people who think he would be loyal. Here's some reasons, taken from a thread on gamefaqs.

"if you look closley you'll see he uses terms of endearment when he speaks of Gero"

"He calls him "master" several times"

"And I can also quote him in the manga using the words "as Dr. Gero intended."

Drunken Master · Post by **Drunken Master** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:15 pm

Why wouldn't he be loyal? Dr. Gero created him from nothing, and it was his greatest creation, and Cell knew it, as he says over and over again. He was proud to be Dr. Gero's ultimate plan. Dr. Gero created Androids #13 and #19 from nothing as well. Android #13 calls Dr. Gero "The good doctor" and says "I was programmed to kill your ass, and that's exactly what I'm going to do!". Dub of course. Androids #17 and #18 weren't loyal because they had minds of their own, and weren't created, just tampered with. I really don't know the story about them...Did Dr. Gero kill them and use there bodies? Did he find them dead? Did he keep them brain-alive when he messed with them? What's the story there? Anyhow, they were human, and had there own minds, and didn't want to be controlled. Android #16 was wacky, but he was still loyal and was going to kill Goku.

So in short, Gero gave Androids #13, #14, #15, #16, #19 and Cell "life", while Androids #18 and #17 were either killed by Dr. Gero or something, and brought back to life, or were capured and tampered with while they were brain was kept alive. Either way, they had past memories. That wasn't short at all...

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:21 pm

Interesting question.

I always thought that Cell was only calling Gero "master" so he could get #18 to be absorbed without any problem. But the more I think of it, he was actually doing all the stuff he did because of Gero's orders, which, as far as Cell was concerned, was only to become perfect and kill Goku, who was supposedly the strongest fighter on Earth.

Though, I'm sure that if Gero wasn't killed, he would have clarified his plans to Cell. I'm pretty sure we only know that Gero wanted to kill Goku to avenge the Red Ribbon Army. But as for what he wanted to do afterwards, that's kinda up in the air.

gohanku · Post by **gohanku** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:22 am

I think that Cell will obey Dr Gero first till he becomes perfect. Then when Gero orders him to destroy Goku and Cell does the tournament thing, Gero will get mad. Cell not caring, will blast Gero into nothingness, proclaiming to be perfect and no one's puppet.

Terra-jin · Post by **Terra-jin** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:27 pm

Cell didn't choose to kill Goku per se, but neither did he. He let sick Goku get away to enjoy the fight with Vegeta (he wasn't gonna enjoy it, though!).
I guess if Gero and Cell would've met, Gero would be extremely proud of Cell and Cell would tolerate Gero for being the one who created him and inspired his life. I don't think Cell would ever take orders fro him, though.

Steven Perry · Post by **Steven Perry** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:39 pm

When Cell was premature and growing in that capsule, he was mentally programmed by Gero; his voice recording was played in Cell's mind over and over again. In that recording, he goes something like, 'Cell, you must listen carefully. You are my ultimate achievement...' Dr. Gero created Cell's mind and body from scratch, and so he's able to have greater control over his mind than the other androids. Gero's words are so deeply ingrained into his mind that I'm sure he Cell would at least hesitate to do harm to him. I'm also sure that Cell has great respect for him; after all, if it weren't for his creator, he wouldn't be 'The Ultimate Perfect Entity'.

Damn, Cell's so vain.

Now, obviously, Cell has been programmed to have these characteristics (including his unnatural superiority complex). And if Gero can make him have these, he can program him to be loyal, too. Hehe, too bad he couldn't do that with #17 and #18.

EDIT: Wait. When Cell absorbs the androids, he takes on their characteristics- mind and body. So, with #18's and #17's minds being a part of Cell, wouldn't he be less 'pure', from, say, when he was first born?

So maybe, he wouldn't be that loyal to Gero after all. And also, I'm finding a flaw with my above original post. Cell only really became 'Vain' after he absorbed both androids (that's evidence for Cell taking on their mental characteristics- #17 especially), and because of this inherited characteristic, he's got to have inherited #17's defiance, too. Before that, he was like a wild beast, lurking in the shadows and suckin' people up. Not much personality there.

Da Games Elite · Post by **Da Games Elite** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:12 pm

I think Cell would of remained loyal. He had enough respect in him to repeatedly refer to him in redearment. However, I remember something about Gero being afraid of 16, and he was made from nothing like Cell...

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:45 pm

If Gero met Cell, I don't know how the meeting would've been due to goals. Gero wanted Goku dead mainly, and maybe to rule Earth, but I don't think he would've wanted to kill everything like Cell did.

mAcChaos · Post by **mAcChaos** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:36 pm

Cell was totally for Gero. The tape recording being mentioned already, it's like he was basically brainwashed to begin with.

Steven Perry wrote:EDIT: Wait. When Cell absorbs the androids, he takes on their characteristics- mind and body. So, with #18's and #17's minds being a part of Cell, wouldn't he be less 'pure', from, say, when he was first born? So maybe, he wouldn't be that loyal to Gero after all. And also, I'm finding a flaw with my above original post. Cell only really became 'Vain' after he absorbed both androids (that's evidence for Cell taking on their mental characteristics- #17 especially), and because of this inherited characteristic, he's got to have inherited #17's defiance, too. Before that, he was like a wild beast, lurking in the shadows and suckin' people up. Not much personality there.

I don't think so; he's not like Buu. Buu took on the characteristics of the people he absorbed. He melded with them. Cell, it was more like he just made them a part of him, and used their power, but it was still all himself and his personality didn't change. He was hiding earlier because he was so weak.

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:04 pm

DaemonCorps wrote:But as for what he wanted to do afterwards, that's kinda up in the air.

If I remember right, and this is remembering from the GT dub mind you, he wanted to replace the Earth's populous with artificial intelligence. Which makes no sense whatsoever IMO. I guess Gero's old age caught up with him and decided avenging the Red Ribbon Army wasn't enough, but that he had to borgify the human race. >>

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:34 am

Conan the SSJ wrote:If I remember right, and this is remembering from the GT dub mind you, he wanted to replace the Earth's populous with artificial intelligence. Which makes no sense whatsoever IMO. I guess Gero's old age caught up with him and decided avenging the Red Ribbon Army wasn't enough, but that he had to borgify the human race. >>

To be frank, though, if I had to live on a planet that dumb, I'd make up crazy-ass plans too.