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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Daisetsu » Sun May 17, 2015 2:26 pm

BlazingBarrrager wrote:Wouldn't that make things a wee bit darker?
Yes, but I'm one those nut-jobs who likes dark humor.

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Post by johnboy1 » Sun May 17, 2015 9:15 pm

jcogginsa wrote:honestly that joke is the worst in the series as far as i'm concerned
Any particular reason why?
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by KaiserNeko » Sun May 17, 2015 9:31 pm

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jcogginsa wrote:honestly that joke is the worst in the series as far as i'm concerned
Any particular reason why?
It's incredibly dark and it's at the expense of a character who ultimately, while a sad-sack, doesn't necessarily deserve to be shit on to the point of him killing himself.

While I still think the joke is funny in a very black comedy manner, I understand how uncomfortable it made some people. But for me, the real crux of it is Goku's followup later in the episode.
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Post by johnboy1 » Sun May 17, 2015 9:49 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:But for me, the real crux of it is Goku's followup later in the episode.
That was a surprisingly heartfelt little moment in a series that (re)writes all of its characters to be a bunch of assholes. And yet I totally bought it.

On that note, a bit more jarring for me, though, was the fact that Goku's first Super Saiyan transformation was played dead straight. We have Krillin's death screams played for laughs along with Freeza's snarky gloating, a totally straight-faced portrayal of rage and loss from Goku, and then we have self-aware banter between King Kai and the narrator. Could you offer some insight into the writing process for that scene?
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by jcogginsa » Sun May 17, 2015 9:56 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:
johnboy1 wrote:
jcogginsa wrote:honestly that joke is the worst in the series as far as i'm concerned
Any particular reason why?
It's incredibly dark and it's at the expense of a character who ultimately, while a sad-sack, doesn't necessarily deserve to be shit on to the point of him killing himself.

While I still think the joke is funny in a very black comedy manner, I understand how uncomfortable it made some people. But for me, the real crux of it is Goku's followup later in the episode.
I will note that, when that episode was released, i had a really low opinion of black comedy due to an influx of bad Black comedy i'd been exposed to.

And i really liked the Goku follow up later on. And Trunks awkwardness.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by BlazingBarrrager » Sun May 17, 2015 11:10 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:
johnboy1 wrote:
jcogginsa wrote:honestly that joke is the worst in the series as far as i'm concerned
Any particular reason why?
It's incredibly dark and it's at the expense of a character who ultimately, while a sad-sack, doesn't necessarily deserve to be shit on to the point of him killing himself.

While I still think the joke is funny in a very black comedy manner, I understand how uncomfortable it made some people. But for me, the real crux of it is Goku's followup later in the episode.
Yeah about that. Seeing as how the rope was Puar transformed wouldn't that technically be Puar killing Yamcha instead of simple suicide? Just asking.

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Post by KaiserNeko » Sun May 17, 2015 11:12 pm

BlazingBarrrager wrote:Yeah about that. Seeing as how the rope was Puar transformed wouldn't that technically be Puar killing Yamcha instead of simple suicide? Just asking.
Most like assisted suicide.
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Post by Vegitofaxx » Mon May 18, 2015 1:16 am

KaiserNeko wrote:
BlazingBarrrager wrote:Yeah about that. Seeing as how the rope was Puar transformed wouldn't that technically be Puar killing Yamcha instead of simple suicide? Just asking.
Most like assisted suicide.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by BlazingBarrrager » Mon May 18, 2015 1:53 am

Vegitofaxx wrote:
KaiserNeko wrote:
BlazingBarrrager wrote:Yeah about that. Seeing as how the rope was Puar transformed wouldn't that technically be Puar killing Yamcha instead of simple suicide? Just asking.
Most like assisted suicide.
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Post by MarCas92 » Mon May 18, 2015 4:06 am

Personally, I found the Yamcha joke tasteless and unfunny. Not that suicide jokes can't be funny, there's plenty that are (to me at least). But I felt that this was unnecessary and was just there for "shock value". Also, the set up wasn't worth the payoff with Goku later on. Though, I admit, it was funny that there was no Yamcha in "The History of Trunks".

I always find the best jokes to be the ones for the hardcore fans.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Doctor. » Mon May 18, 2015 7:51 am

The park ranger one isn't really for hardcore fans, as both the anime and manga imply this heavily.

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Post by rereboy » Mon May 18, 2015 9:16 am

Doctor. wrote:The park ranger one isn't really for hardcore fans, as both the anime and manga imply this heavily.
In the manga, we just see him standing on a rustic scenery with a rifle. That's not enough to imply that he is working as a park ranger. Not to mention that the scene was thought up for Lunch, and then she was replaced with #17 because Toriyama feared people didn't remember her.

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Post by Vegitofaxx » Mon May 18, 2015 9:23 am

rereboy wrote:
Doctor. wrote:The park ranger one isn't really for hardcore fans, as both the anime and manga imply this heavily.
In the manga, we just see him standing on a rustic scenery with a rifle. That's not enough to imply that he is working as a park ranger. Not to mention that the scene was thought up for Lunch, and then she was replaced with #17 because Toriyama feared people didn't remember her.
Toriyama worried about the fans forgetting? That probably the most bass ackwards AT thing I've ever heard :lol:
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Post by Noah » Mon May 18, 2015 9:49 am

MarCas92 wrote: "Cat loves food"
How that quote is only for hardcore fans to understand?
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by rereboy » Mon May 18, 2015 9:59 am

Vegitofaxx wrote: Toriyama worried about the fans forgetting? That probably the most bass ackwards AT thing I've ever heard :lol:
He probably worried that fans were as forgetful as him :lol:. But yeah, the scene was originally intended to be for Lunch. Even what #17 says ("it's been a long time since I heard that voice"), referring to Goku, makes much more sense if it was Lunch saying it.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Vegitofaxx » Mon May 18, 2015 10:06 am

rereboy wrote:
Vegitofaxx wrote: Toriyama worried about the fans forgetting? That probably the most bass ackwards AT thing I've ever heard :lol:
He probably worried that fans were as forgetful as him :lol:. But yeah, the scene was originally intended to be for Lunch. Even what #17 says ("it's been a long time since I heard that voice"), referring to Goku, makes much more sense if it was Lunch saying it.
Did #17 even ever hear Son Goku? :lol:
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Valerius Dover » Mon May 18, 2015 10:47 am

^Before that point, he didn't meet him. However, he was reprogrammed to kill him, so it's more than likely that he knows what he both looks and sounds like.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon May 18, 2015 12:22 pm

Valerius Dover wrote:^Before that point, he didn't meet him. However, he was reprogrammed to kill him, so it's more than likely that he knows what he both looks and sounds like.
Which only makes you wonder why he didn't go after Goku after he was brought back to life. Guess #17 thought, "Fuck it. I'm too young looking for this shit. I already died once from getting involved with Goku and his friends, I'm not going through that again. Park Ranger for life!"

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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Mon May 18, 2015 5:44 pm

A little while ago a thought came to me that made me laugh and excited. If TFS does do the Majin Buu saga I wonder how they'll do the "Kurrin telling Goku about being married to #18 and having a kid." I bet it will be hilarious and even contribute to "Kurrin's Owned Count."

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Mon May 18, 2015 6:16 pm

Wouldn't being married and having a kid deduct from the owned count, if anything?
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