DragonBall Z Abridged

[Scsigs]

Yes, EXACTLY. Like, this was legit my hopes for DBZA's Majin Buu arc, post-DBZA's cancellation.

Like, I would have been perfectly fine if their plans would instead be to cover the arc in "movie form". I wouldn't have even cared if that method would have resulted in us getting "Part 1 for one year, Part 2 the following year/the year after, etc." Like, as long as they covered Majin Buu PROPERLY (in some fashion), I would have taken it.

As I've said in my previous post, a lot of the "shotgun humor" kind of hurts some moments for me. What's more, I feel like the Buu Bits didn't give enough to characters like Goten or even Buu himself. Characters like Trunks and Videl? Eeeh... I GUESS they got out mostly unscathed, but still.

It really hurts, because I think there was SO much that could have been book-ended in this arc (jokes AND character arcs alike). You're also right in that clearly their burnout seems to be going away at this point. Like, I can totally understand TOEI, but isn't there ANY place where such a thing could be hosted, or is YT the only option for a wide audience?

Honestly, Part 1 could be from the beginning of the arc to Vegeta's sacrifice since that feels like where the arc either should've ended, or should've ended soon after if Toriyama hadn't dragged it out for too long. Then Part 2 picks up from there.
Yeah. With the fact that they've been doing the creator commentaries for the last year & getting back into it themselves, I think they should have enough recharged batteries to be able to do it. And, hell, they could try to do the other 90s Z movies in between the parts. That'd be cool. More content, more abridged movies, & yeah. I'm not getting my hopes up, but I'd love to see them.
The way it seems to be with Toei is they hate TFS for using their animation to make the Abridged series, as they see it as piracy due to how Japanese copyright laws work. I'm very much surprised that YouTube hasn't given TFS the ability to geo block their videos outside of Japan like they did for Totally Not Mark. Copyright has always been a thing they've had to contend with since Abridged Series ride the line of copyright infringement & fair use, so I understand the apprehension if it's only gotten more strict, but I'd still like to see it.

[Scsigs]

Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Episode 54
https://youtu.be/fOBuEI8f4Pg?si=UGxZOcclNV3A3Bdo

Yu Yu Hakusho Abridged | Episode 13 Commentary
https://youtu.be/QwW-vT7C-is?si=x9Wkn7yTSdAoCjrV

[Scsigs]

Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Episode 55
https://youtu.be/ZttvAWWQvSY?si=A7ES3MhDAdq9NPGF

[Scsigs]

Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Episode 56
https://youtu.be/Dz7JwmAXWvQ?si=YPP650lesbEQCoQL

Yu Yu Hakusho Abridged Commentary | Episode 14
https://youtu.be/kg0JM6TZdhE?si=IG9RgGALxrhikApI

[FoolsGil]

I remember how after 55 came out and everyone was freaking the fuck out: "Chi Chi raped Goku! " and 56 was basically a reply back: "No. It is a very consensual sequence of events until pregnancy between a power bottom and her himbo. "

[Scsigs]

I remember how after 55 came out and everyone was freaking the fuck out: "Chi Chi raped Goku! " and 56 was basically a reply back: "No. It is a very consensual sequence of events until pregnancy between a power bottom and her himbo. "

I'm glad I don't pay attention to that type of discourse around this show. I heard that happened when Kaiser said it did on a stream after it came out & I'm like people read too much into things sometimes.

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

I never caught Grandpa Gohan being the ghost, what a deep cut. I remember nodding along with the episode by the end but agreed that they had a tiny window to go unusually raunchy they're allowed to take it. I think Dende's acclamation and Vegeta's madness is my favorite part.

Indeed, some Buu scenes were clearly in the oven longer than others, I thought they would have been above that much sequel shaming at the end there. I don't know, better to see than not? They feel very tacked on to Mark's videos besides. His (team's) scripts run closer to a dramatic reading than a lecture, and with more dynamic animated accompaniments than a lot of such video reviews. They don't exactly need the cutaway skits to keep your attention, and it is never telegraphed when one is about to come on so when they do you have to grab about for context while the short is running.

I remember how after 55 came out and everyone was freaking the fuck out: "Chi Chi raped Goku! " and 56 was basically a reply back: "No. It is a very consensual sequence of events until pregnancy between a power bottom and her himbo. "

The depth of Goku's ability to be deceived has been exaggerated, it seems.

[Scsigs]

Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Broly
https://youtu.be/x0Ue8C883PM?si=vinjqD-igsMoMnJl

Yu Yu Hakusho Abridged Commentary | Episode 15
https://youtu.be/0QtSIFtMZe0?si=uWOTwW5_2RbX3IdY

So, I don't know if this has been discussed anywhere officially, but I think the actual timeline placement of Broly was supposed to be after Cell rather than in the 10 day wait for the Cell Games, but retroactively got placed there. If you think about it, that makes sense. The writers of the movies mostly never cared for timeline placement outside of a few instances (Dead Zone, Cooler 1, Bojack, & Wrath of the Dragon), but my assumption is that they assumed that Toriyama would have Goku survive Cell when they wrote it & just rolled with it. Gohan & Goku aren't Super Saiyans, Cell isn't mentioned & it's clear the Earth's not in danger because some of the characters were partying in that park, Goku & Chichi were applying Gohan to school, etc. It honestly makes the most sense as a theory.

[Lance Freeman]

Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Broly
https://youtu.be/x0Ue8C883PM?si=vinjqD-igsMoMnJl

Yu Yu Hakusho Abridged Commentary | Episode 15
https://youtu.be/0QtSIFtMZe0?si=uWOTwW5_2RbX3IdY

So, I don't know if this has been discussed anywhere officially, but I think the actual timeline placement of Broly was supposed to be after Cell rather than in the 10 day wait for the Cell Games, but retroactively got placed there. If you think about it, that makes sense. The writers of the movies mostly never cared for timeline placement outside of a few instances (Dead Zone, Cooler 1, Bojack, & Wrath of the Dragon), but my assumption is that they assumed that Toriyama would have Goku survive Cell when they wrote it & just rolled with it. Gohan & Goku aren't Super Saiyans, Cell isn't mentioned & it's clear the Earth's not in danger because some of the characters were partying in that park, Goku & Chichi were applying Gohan to school, etc. It honestly makes the most sense as a theory.

Nah, I think it really is just Toei playing fast and loose with continuity, like they always did at that point.

[Vegard Aune]

To this day Toei is still playing it fast and loose with continuity of movies like these. Like, they all seem to assume the characters' personalities and capabilities are exactly what they would be in the show at that point, but also just disregard any ongoing plotlines that may be happening. Which is why Gohan and Kuririn can just be out camping with their friends at a time when they should be on Namek trying to revive those very same friends, why Goku and the others can just be casually going shopping during the Android invasion when Goku should either be knocked out from illness or training to fight Cell, and even nowadays in One Piece you have two movies that can literally only happen during Wano but which also obviously would make no sense there since it would require the crew to just leave Wano mid-plot.

[FoolsGil]

I don't know how likely it would be, but I would love if the team talks about Bojack Abridged, like what were the ideas, what they had problems setting up, what ideas that they did feel were perfect and were gonna use if it worked out, and finally, years later, is there a story beat or something they feel could work, if they had kept abridging

[Scsigs]

Nah, I think it really is just Toei playing fast and loose with continuity, like they always did at that point.

I mean, the majority of the Z movies were just recycling the arc plot & villain of previous arcs in movie format. The writers of the movies more than likely knew that they wouldn't be able to slot most of their movies in the continuity of the manga or anime, so they just wrote whatever movie they wanted with the characters they had at the time & just wanted to write popcorn entertainment. However, they also wrote some of the movies with clear placements in the main timeline. Dead Zone takes place before Raditz shows up, Cooler 1 takes place in the timeskip before the androids show up, Bojack takes place after Cell, & Wrath of the Dragon takes place after Buu, but before the last timeskip. Every other movie runs on weird alternate timelines where some other shit happened so those events could take place. If we look at the first Broly movie, the writers put: Super Saiyan Goku & Gohan (though not outside of battle), Trunks & Vegeta post-time chamber (evidenced by Trunks' long hair & extra muscles in Super Saiyan form), & put it in an ideal time of peace on Earth with no mentions of Cell or a looming threat. The only weird thing is no SS2 Gohan, but that's probably due to it not being in the manga yet. The best bet is that the writers saw Goku winning against Cell or something like that & not being dead. At least, that's how I'm seeing it. There's no contradicting continuity problems otherwise.

To this day Toei is still playing it fast and loose with continuity of movies like these. Like, they all seem to assume the characters' personalities and capabilities are exactly what they would be in the show at that point, but also just disregard any ongoing plotlines that may be happening. Which is why Gohan and Kuririn can just be out camping with their friends at a time when they should be on Namek trying to revive those very same friends, why Goku and the others can just be casually going shopping during the Android invasion when Goku should either be knocked out from illness or training to fight Cell, and even nowadays in One Piece you have two movies that can literally only happen during Wano but which also obviously would make no sense there since it would require the crew to just leave Wano mid-plot.

I mean, yeah. The writers clearly made most of the movies on the assumption that they wouldn't be in continuity with the ongoing series, so they just made them alternate timelines to have DBZ in movie form in Japanese cinemas as Toei wanted, as well as recycle stuff rom the show & manga.
Also, most One Piece movies basically operate under the same thought process minus Strong World because it was written by Oda directly.

I don't know how likely it would be, but I would love if the team talks about Bojack Abridged, like what were the ideas, what they had problems setting up, what ideas that they did feel were perfect and were gonna use if it worked out, and finally, years later, is there a story beat or something they feel could work, if they had kept abridging

I'll be honest, I do think it was their burnout & want to do other things that caused them to give up on Bojack. I genuinely don't think they couldn't have done a good twist on it otherwise. Bojack has no personality? Neither does Broly & they turned him into Michael Cera when he's not a Super Saiyan. And, they could've done some interesting twists on Bojack's lackies too considering how they did Garlic Jr, Turles, Cooler, & Lord Slug's lackies. Genuinely, even they've said that no one cares what they do with the movies or specials, so I don't see why not.

Also, now that I've watched the whole commentary video, I'm actually glad they didn't use that sequence with Pilaf. While I get what kind of comedy they were going for with it, I feel like it was TOO dark to find funny. Goku was legit torturing Pilaf, who did nothing to deserve it. I'm glad they couldn't animate it fully & just left it at the "and that monster Pilaf" line. That was funnier.

[Scsigs]

Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Episode 57
https://youtu.be/gYPE_O0O9l8?si=lltp2UpuDUnMF72K

And if anyone wants something else to watch, Kaiser is voicing Danny Phantom in Kuro the Artist's 5 Years Later motion comic series.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... p1rJ5IcqfQ

[FoolsGil]

A part of me is disappointed they didn't kill Satan at the end of 57. I was really hoping at the time they would have did it, and then when Satan is resurrected he would be like "It was all fake!" setting up his rise, which imho made far more sense than canon, with the public's literal goldfish memory

[Scsigs]

Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Episode 58
https://youtu.be/jMNzn9oHubc?si=3FbylTtRTfnajZfc

[Noah]

Man, I feel like all my baby crying all long these years here in thread had paid off somehow lol


First, I would like to say that I noticed that TFS has been using a lot of DB Legends artwork in their thumbnails, and it's actually a smart decision. The artwork in that game is some of the best I've seen in the franchise since I started following it.

A few comments about it:

- I was never a big fan of the idea of Gohan (teen) having a different voice than the one he had in the History of Trunks parody. I always valued consistency, so I think they could have kept the same voice. However, I have to admit that the current voice did a good job from what I watched of these bits.

- I liked that they made remixes of Kikuchi's tracks originally used in Z and even Faulconer's, which I have to admit, fit well with certain moments of this arc (SSJ3 Goku and Ultimate Gohan arrives).

- It was a cool and kind of creepy concept to have the mouths of the people Super Boo appeared with interacting with Gohan lol

- "I saw you barely over a year ago because of that Black Freeza nonsense" that had me good

(the funniest part of this line is that they are spot on about everything that possibly happened until reaching EoZ, and TFS handled it masterfully).

I could say more things, but I must admit that watching this whole compilation left me with a bittersweet feeling. It was great to see what could have been and the potential size that this arc would have been to be funny and entertaining for us Abridged fans, but also sad because it's something incomplete and we'll never have it in the format it was before. However, I appreciate TFS's effort in showing us this and I wish them success in whatever direction they choose to take now in their other parodies.

[Scsigs]

Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Episode 59
https://youtu.be/hq4xhTWMYsE?si=wgmQ9NXcxb7iLnz0

[Scsigs]

Dragonball Z Abridged Creator Commentary | Episode 60 (Part 1)
https://youtu.be/kmxMkA9l9C0?si=CfrmK-Ge_bDUO3Wp

Yu Yu Hakusho Abridged Movie Commentary | Parts 1 & 2
https://youtu.be/G2uwiyBa4h0?si=oOuUqoeBCPhTw3dT
https://youtu.be/tz45zXYNsS0?si=x5FCSz4ADnJK-9cf

[coola]

When they talked about fansubs...there are still lots of unsubbed anime, especially those made before 1990, where fansubs is literally only way to watch them, if you don't know Japanese. And TV-Nihon was well known tokusatsu fansub group, where you had stuff like that

[Scsigs]

When they talked about fansubs...there are still lots of unsubbed anime, especially those made before 1990, where fansubs is literally only way to watch them, if you don't know Japanese. And TV-Nihon was well known tokusatsu fansub group, where you had stuff like that

I often make fun of TV-Nihon for that shit. They leave words untranslated for some reason. When I watched. their fansub of Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger, they consistently just transliterated "mou," which can easily be translated as "come on," which is what was meant most of the time that I can tell. Just...why?