Site Design

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:42 am

So what's with the main site and forums anyway? I mean, the content is great, don't get me wrong. But the design looks like it hasn't been updated since the early 90s. Also, what's up with using the default skin on the forums?

Do you guys need some tips? I can help out with design. Sites that look dated like this one can be a major turn off with some fans.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:52 am

...I *like* 90s web design.

You know, what was good web design in the 90s, rather than the freely-hosted GIF-o-Paloozas.

Today's web design is so..not minimalistic.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:57 am

Actually you're right and wrong. There are several categories. Minimalistic is one. They can go with minimalistic and not have their website look like a 12-year old's fan site from the 90s.

Super 17 · Post by **Super 17** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:26 pm

I think the site and the forum is good the way it looks.

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:19 pm

"Daizenshuu EX, the way it was meant to be seen! Digitally remastered for the twenty-first century!"
... Well, someone had to. ^_^

I like it the way it is, but the way websites look hasn't particularly mattered to me. ^^.
I do find that tables have a tendency to be easier to navigate than div layers (*tries to kick something, but can't decide who/what to blame so kicks the air instead*). Usually when major layout changes happen (well, when anything updates, really) it's more of an inconvenience than anything... though somehow I suspect that if Daizex underwent a major layout revamping (which I kinda doubt, considering the work that'd require to fix something that isn't broken), most of the shortcomings of the 'new and improved' web era won't come with it. (*scoffs at web2.0* *then gripes about FreedomScientific*).

... On a completely different note, My site could use a complete redesign from the ground up... and CSS and I don't get along... ... ...</thinlyveilednotPM>

Post by **VegettoEX** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:26 pm

Were Daizenshuu EX my full-time job, and were it not something that has indeed been a staple of the online DBZ web community since 1998...

... yes, it would look like something designed in the Web 2.0 era

.

Trust me, it's not something that has escaped my imagination or future plans, but it's just not something entirely feasible at the moment.

Bardock the Mexican · Post by **Bardock the Mexican** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:00 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Were Daizenshuu EX my full-time job, and were it not something that has indeed been a staple of the online DBZ web community since 1998...

... yes, it would look like something designed in the Web 2.0 era .

Trust me, it's not something that has escaped my imagination or future plans, but it's just not something entirely feasible at the moment.

It's a great site and doesn't need to change to bring it up to the so called standards of recent times thing. It's got an old-internet charm that makes it distinct. What some may call a antiquated system to be thrown out some others call a good thing that shouldn't be replaced.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:26 pm

I'm glad not everybody thinks of things like that. The internet would be a very ugly place.

Seriously, a simple CSS update would do this site wonders. It wouldn't take very long at all.

Freeza Heika · Post by **Freeza Heika** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:35 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:I'm glad not everybody thinks of things like that. The internet would be a very ugly place.

Seriously, a simple CSS update would do this site wonders. It wouldn't take very long at all.

I guess it's great that you're attempting to better Daizex, but it is fine the way it is, and not to sound like an ass, but an inordinate amount of your posts are criticism. Not to say criticism is bad, but sometimes you just need to force yourself to wear the rose-colored glasses for everyone else's sake.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:56 pm

Freeza Heika wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:I'm glad not everybody thinks of things like that. The internet would be a very ugly place.

Seriously, a simple CSS update would do this site wonders. It wouldn't take very long at all.
I guess it's great that you're attempting to better Daizex, but it is fine the way it is, and not to sound like an ass, but an inordinate amount of your posts are criticism. Not to say criticism is bad, but sometimes you just need to force yourself to wear the rose-colored glasses for everyone else's sake.

No, no. Innagadadavida is entirely correct and welcome to suggest said things. I don't expect every single person to love and just accept every single little item.

My only real "excuse" is that I spend all day working on this kind of stuff, and I have very little desire to do it when I get back home

. The gratification I get from keeping the site alive and sharing information is really all I need to feel good about it, though I am well aware that the image it portrays is that of... well... a site re-launched in 2003 with a design initially begun in 2002 based on a site that first launched in 1998. Thankfully, I think if someone's serious about what they're looking for and do a little digging, they'll see that content is indeed king.

So how am I typing forum responses all day and occasionally making news updates? Well, that takes even less time to do, and I can do THAT while AT work

.

It's a labor of love that I started as a teenager, and all I want to do is keep it alive and continue to enjoy the fandom. It makes me smile! Doesn't mean I'm not self-aware of everything, though.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:08 pm

I like the site's simple appearance. Though in all fairness, I don't know anything about anything when it comes to site designing, so simplicity is a must for my soul's well-being.

Side note: it's also one of two silly reasons I never made Bird Mountain (my Toriyama website).

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:15 pm

I love the way the site looks, it's classy. I love the colors that are being used, or maybe I'm just used to them. I don't know. The only 'negative' thing that comes to mind is the vertical scrolling. On my computer it's fine, but when I go away on the weekends and the only interwebs I have is via the PSP, it can be a real pain to have to load all of the stuff that's on the main page. If it's really image heavy it won't even load the site.

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:16 pm

I just want to know when the character guides are going to be up and running.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:10 pm

I find the site easy to navigate and presentable. It's really doesn't need an update, it would be a superfluous change.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:58 pm

Yeah, I like the site the way it is, although more content is always nice.

Say I paid you five grand to take a few days off work to devote your time to adding more content to the site, Mike. Would you pull?

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SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:24 pm

I don't have a problem with the layout of the main site at all, it has a nice "old-school" feel.

And about the forum layout, what is there that Mike has the options to change?

And by the way, the layout has been updated... a bit:

PS: Hey VegettoEX, could possible re-upload the full size images of what the site used to look like way back in the days. I'm talking about the ones that are linked to in the post that was on the main page on 01 January 2008.

Freeza Heika · Post by **Freeza Heika** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:27 pm

SSj_Rambo wrote:I don't have a problem with the layout of the main site at all, it has a nice "old-school" feel.

And about the forum layout, what is there that Mike has the options to change?

And by the way, the layout has been updated... a bit:

PS: Hey VegettoEX, could possible re-upload the full size images of what the site used to look like way back in the days. I'm talking about the ones that are linked to in the post that was on the main page on 01 January 2008.

If you click it you get this:

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:18 pm

Freeza Heika wrote:
SSj_Rambo wrote:I don't have a problem with the layout of the main site at all, it has a nice "old-school" feel.

And about the forum layout, what is there that Mike has the options to change?

And by the way, the layout has been updated... a bit:

*Snip*

PS: Hey VegettoEX, could possible re-upload the full size images of what the site used to look like way back in the days. I'm talking about the ones that are linked to in the post that was on the main page on 01 January 2008.
If you click it you get this:

*Snip*

Actually, the link the picture takes you to is broken, all you get is a "The webpage cannot be found" message. Thank you for giving me the correct link!

Hao_Kaiser · Post by **Hao_Kaiser** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:02 pm

I love the look of the site, if only for the fact that it has been that way since I found it as a 10 year old.

I'd actually be a little put off if it tried to look fresh and new. As it is now, it's the Daizenshuu EX I've always known, and I'd really like to see it stay that way.

Also, Mike has, what, 4 individual creations he has to keep up with outside of his day job? Let's give the guy some slack.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:04 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Yeah, I like the site the way it is, although more content is always nice.

Say I paid you five grand to take a few days off work to devote your time to adding more content to the site, Mike. Would you pull?

FIVE GRAND! Hey I'd do a redesign for $5.

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