"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[ArchedThunder]

Whipped this up real quick, what one would you guys prefer for Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken?

I like 1, 2, and (because I still miss ssjg) 5.

I think 1's my favorite though; I've always been a fan of that deeper shade of blue.

I knew you'd say that.

My personal favorites are 1, 2 and 6.

[Herms]

It's not too different from what's already out there, but here's my translation of the new episode summaries:

Ep.38: “Universe 6’s Mightiest Warrior! Meet the Assassin Hit!!” April 10th
Scenario: Toshio Yoshitaka, Storyboard and Director: Kohei Hatano, Animation Supervisor: Naoki Tate
It’s a martial arts tournament between Universe 6 and 7, with Earth hanging in the balance. Vegeta’s final opponent is Hit, the strongest man in Universe 6. Hit is so laid-back it’s terrifying, and seeing this Vegeta realizes he must be strong. In fact, Hit is renowned as the greatest assassin in Universe 6…

Ep.39: “A Fully-Developed ‘Time-Skip’ Counterattack!? Is It Coming!? Goku’s New Technique!” April 17th
Scenario: King Ryu, Storyboard and Director: Ryota Nakamura, Animation Supervisor: Yukihiro Kitano
Vegeta squares off against Hit in his Super Saiyan Blue form, but Hit uses his “Time-Skip” technique to repeatedly attack Vegeta where it hurts, knocking him out cold. Trying to figure out the trick behind Hit’s “Time-Skip”, Son Goku likewise challenges him in his Super Saiyan Blue form.

Ep.39: “Hit Improves, Goku Declines” (provisional title) April 17th
Scenario: King Ryu, Storyboard/Director/Animation Supervisor: undetermined
Hit has the ability to skip time ahead just one tenth of a second. Goku counters this “Time-Skip” by predicting what will happen 0.1 seconds later, but Hit continues to improve as the battle wears on. And so Goku busts out the Kaio-Ken and fires a Kamehameha!

Ep.40: “The Conclusion” (provisional title) April 24th
Scenario: King Ryu, Storyboard/Director/Animation Supervisor: undetermined
The tournament against Universe 6 for the fate of the Earth has finally come to a close. Furious at Hit and his teammates for losing, Champa tries to destroy them. As Cabba and the others are frozen in terror, someone enters the ring…

Some people were confused about the talk of Goku "unsealing" the Kaio-Ken, but this most likely is a reference to how when a character has a technique that they avoid using (if it's too dangerous, powerful, etc), it is metaphorically referred to as "sealed". This is precisely how Frost described his final form a few episodes ago. And in turn, when desperate circumstances force a character to use a "sealed" technique, this is described as "unsealing" it. So I doubt there's any fancy, literal seal upon the Kaio-ken. Rather, it's just a reference to how the technique has always been risky, such that Goku only uses it when backed into a corner. He's using something that was previously off-limits. This is why in my translation I simply say Goku "busts out" the Kaio-ken.

[Lionel]

Whipped this up real quick, what one would you guys prefer for Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken?

Number 2 or 4 seem like good possible combinations. One of my grievances with the Super Kaioken was the fact that it didn't look exactly how a coalescence of the two different states would appear, at least from my perspective. In the anime it just appeared like a palette swap instead of a true commingling with some of the visibly extreme rigours of the Kaioken and maybe a cross-look with a more volatile appearing orangish aura. I think your suggestions here offer a glimpse into what a combination of the hair and eyes might look like, but not the body itself. The Kaioken should have a much more extreme effect on the body coupled with a tense gritting expression -- even the lowest Kaioken should still be difficult to accomplish considering how Goku is having to not only maintain the God Ki and his Super Saiyan transformation, but the absolute precision and balance of it as well while he amplifies his body's muscles and senses further using Kaioken.

[Sonicjamareiz]

My favorite character isn't even mention in Super and he had only 1 cameo in the Majin Buu arc and he wasn't meant to be in that scene/panel it was supposed to be Launch

[Nejishiki]

Spoiler:

It's not too different from what's already out there, but here's my translation of the new episode summaries:

Ep.38: “Universe 6’s Mightiest Warrior! Meet the Assassin Hit!!” April 10th
Scenario: Toshio Yoshitaka, Storyboard and Director: Kohei Hatano, Animation Supervisor: Naoki Tate
It’s a martial arts tournament between Universe 6 and 7, with Earth hanging in the balance. Vegeta’s final opponent is Hit, the strongest man in Universe 6. Hit is so laid-back it’s terrifying, and seeing this Vegeta realizes he must be strong. In fact, Hit is renowned as the greatest assassin in Universe 6…

Ep.39: “A Fully-Developed ‘Time-Skip’ Counterattack!? Is It Coming!? Goku’s New Technique!” April 17th
Scenario: King Ryu, Storyboard and Director: Ryota Nakamura, Animation Supervisor: Yukihiro Kitano
Vegeta squares off against Hit in his Super Saiyan Blue form, but Hit uses his “Time-Skip” technique to repeatedly attack Vegeta where it hurts, knocking him out cold. Trying to figure out the trick behind Hit’s “Time-Skip”, Son Goku likewise challenges him in his Super Saiyan Blue form.

Ep.39: “Hit Improves, Goku Declines” (provisional title) April 17th
Scenario: King Ryu, Storyboard/Director/Animation Supervisor: undetermined
Hit has the ability to skip time ahead just one tenth of a second. Goku counters this “Time-Skip” by predicting what will happen 0.1 seconds later, but Hit continues to improve as the battle wears on. And so Goku busts out the Kaio-Ken and fires a Kamehameha!

Ep.40: “The Conclusion” (provisional title) April 24th
Scenario: King Ryu, Storyboard/Director/Animation Supervisor: undetermined
The tournament against Universe 6 for the fate of the Earth has finally come to a close. Furious at Hit and his teammates for losing, Champa tries to destroy them. As Cabba and the others are frozen in terror, someone enters the ring…

Some people were confused about the talk of Goku "unsealing" the Kaio-Ken, but this most likely is a reference to how when a character has a technique that they avoid using (if it's too dangerous, powerful, etc), it is metaphorically referred to as "sealed". This is precisely how Frost described his final form a few episodes ago. And in turn, when desperate circumstances force a character to use a "sealed" technique, this is described as "unsealing" it. So I doubt there's any fancy, literal seal upon the Kaio-ken. Rather, it's just a reference to how the technique has always been risky, such that Goku only uses it when backed into a corner. He's using something that was previously off-limits. This is why in my translation I simply say Goku "busts out" the Kaio-ken.

Great clarification as always, Herms! The sealed explanation makes sense now.

[Cipher]

I am hyped as hell for Goku vs. Hit, especially if it devolves into their trying to outpredict each other around those tenth-of-a-second movements.

That's a crazy scenario that could be amazingly fun and cool if it's done well. Quite unique for Dragon Ball too.

[SansrivaaL]

It's not too different from what's already out there, but here's my translation of the new episode summaries:

Ep.38: “Universe 6’s Mightiest Warrior! Meet the Assassin Hit!!” April 10th
Scenario: Toshio Yoshitaka, Storyboard and Director: Kohei Hatano, Animation Supervisor: Naoki Tate
It’s a martial arts tournament between Universe 6 and 7, with Earth hanging in the balance. Vegeta’s final opponent is Hit, the strongest man in Universe 6. Hit is so laid-back it’s terrifying, and seeing this Vegeta realizes he must be strong. In fact, Hit is renowned as the greatest assassin in Universe 6…

Ep.39: “A Fully-Developed ‘Time-Skip’ Counterattack!? Is It Coming!? Goku’s New Technique!” April 17th
Scenario: King Ryu, Storyboard and Director: Ryota Nakamura, Animation Supervisor: Yukihiro Kitano
Vegeta squares off against Hit in his Super Saiyan Blue form, but Hit uses his “Time-Skip” technique to repeatedly attack Vegeta where it hurts, knocking him out cold. Trying to figure out the trick behind Hit’s “Time-Skip”, Son Goku likewise challenges him in his Super Saiyan Blue form.

Ep.39: “Hit Improves, Goku Declines” (provisional title) April 17th
Scenario: King Ryu, Storyboard/Director/Animation Supervisor: undetermined
Hit has the ability to skip time ahead just one tenth of a second. Goku counters this “Time-Skip” by predicting what will happen 0.1 seconds later, but Hit continues to improve as the battle wears on. And so Goku busts out the Kaio-Ken and fires a Kamehameha!

Ep.40: “The Conclusion” (provisional title) April 24th
Scenario: King Ryu, Storyboard/Director/Animation Supervisor: undetermined
The tournament against Universe 6 for the fate of the Earth has finally come to a close. Furious at Hit and his teammates for losing, Champa tries to destroy them. As Cabba and the others are frozen in terror, someone enters the ring…

Some people were confused about the talk of Goku "unsealing" the Kaio-Ken, but this most likely is a reference to how when a character has a technique that they avoid using (if it's too dangerous, powerful, etc), it is metaphorically referred to as "sealed". This is precisely how Frost described his final form a few episodes ago. And in turn, when desperate circumstances force a character to use a "sealed" technique, this is described as "unsealing" it. So I doubt there's any fancy, literal seal upon the Kaio-ken. Rather, it's just a reference to how the technique has always been risky, such that Goku only uses it when backed into a corner. He's using something that was previously off-limits. This is why in my translation I simply say Goku "busts out" the Kaio-ken.

So this is why people were getting hyped up about the Goku kaioken stuffs, I must resist entering this thread now, it spoils too much
inb4 Yamcha enters the ring and one shots Chanpa.

That being said finally a match that we have no freaking clue who wins, will it be Goku or Hit? will Goku lose thus Monaka being the one to beat Hit or will Goku be the one to beat him? something tells me Goku's gonna beat him tho, I doubt they would not make it a big deal and make it a title if Monaka will finally showcase his powers.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

That being said finally a match that we have no freaking clue who wins, will it be Goku or Hit? will Goku lose thus Monaka being the one to beat Hit or will Goku be the one to beat him? something tells me Goku's gonna beat him tho, I doubt they would not make it a big deal and make it a title if Monaka will finally showcase his powers.

Uh...Goku wins. It says in Episode 40's summary that Champa's throwing a temper tantrum because his team lost.

[Sodhi]

That being said finally a match that we have no freaking clue who wins, will it be Goku or Hit? will Goku lose thus Monaka being the one to beat Hit or will Goku be the one to beat him? something tells me Goku's gonna beat him tho, I doubt they would not make it a big deal and make it a title if Monaka will finally showcase his powers.

It clearly says though "Furious at Hit and his teammates for losing, Champa tries to destroy them."

[SansrivaaL]

That being said finally a match that we have no freaking clue who wins, will it be Goku or Hit? will Goku lose thus Monaka being the one to beat Hit or will Goku be the one to beat him? something tells me Goku's gonna beat him tho, I doubt they would not make it a big deal and make it a title if Monaka will finally showcase his powers.

Uh...Goku wins. It says in Episode 40's summary that Champa's throwing a temper tantrum because his team lost.

Yeah but we dont know if it was Goku that gave them the win or Monaka enters and one shots Hit.

[Sodhi]

Yeah but we dont know if it was Goku that gave them the win or Monaka enters and one shots Hit.

I see what ur saying but the summaries mention nothing of monaka. It talks about goku and hit fight until the someone enters the ring part.

[SansrivaaL]

Yeah but we dont know if it was Goku that gave them the win or Monaka enters and one shots Hit.

I see what ur saying but the summaries mention nothing of monaka. It talks about goku and hit fight until the someone enters the ring part.

Yeah, thats why I said I think Goku beats Hit because of the title, making me think that the one that enters the ring when Chanpa was about to destroy his fighters is Monaka.

[Bullza]

Whipped this up real quick, what one would you guys prefer for Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken?

Yeah #2 looks the best by far I'd say. #1 and #6 are too dark, #5 is too similiar to SSJG and #3 and #4 just make him look really fruity.

Now I think more about it I'm unsure about purple Goku, it seems a little... gay? If you know what I mean. Maybe it'd look better with the purple aura.

I can't see many colours working with it besides red and blue. Silver would probably work though.

[Duo]

I'm willing to bet that Goku using the Kaio-ken at such a level will be a very mild increase compared to the ten-fold or even three-fold increases of the past, and will leave him utterly exhausted afterward.

[Chuquita]

JulieYBM went and found the screenshots of regular ssj1 + kaio-ken from the Otherworld Tournament.
Source: https://twitter.com/JulieYBM/status/717928049044377600

Spoiler:

I'd forgotten ssj1 + kaio-ken even happened to be honest.

[Araki]

I'm willing to bet that Goku using the Kaio-ken at such a level will be a very mild increase compared to the ten-fold or even three-fold increases of the past, and will leave him utterly exhausted afterward.

Yeah, i think that's the reason he won't do anything when Champa tries to kill his fighters. He'll probably be done too.

[Hellspawn28]

So U6 loses? I remember a lot of people was expecting U7 to lose, but I'm not too surprise. I can't imagine U7's Earth being set in Universe 6. U7 has too many friends and alleys in their own universe.

[RandomGuy96]

I'm willing to bet that Goku using the Kaio-ken at such a level will be a very mild increase compared to the ten-fold or even three-fold increases of the past, and will leave him utterly exhausted afterward.

So, basically what happened when he fought Pikkon.

[sintzu]

So U6 loses? I remember a lot of people was expecting U7 to lose.

The majority of expectations turned out to be wrong.

[buutenks]

This means that goku could have used ssj with kk.