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So even to this day nobody has any idea what Mr. Popo is besides the fact that he always serves the Kami or Guardian of the earth. Should they retcon him in as a god similar to Beerus?
It would not be the first time they changed a characters backstory. Goku was a human monkey boy and then he became a Saiyan. Piccolo was originally believed to just be a demon and then they rectonned his origin to be an alien from Namek.
The problem is Mr. Popo did nothing to save the Earth while everyone was fighting but it is led to believe he was not allowed to interfere. He did save Dende's life from Majin Buu by throwing him off the palace so he would survive when Buu killed everyone up there so the Dragonballs would still exist, but other than that he watched from the sidelines.
Quite frankly, anybody who is stronger than Kami should count as a "God" , in my opinion. But how loosely the term has been used over the years and how the heirachy of power in the Dragon Ball universe is constantly chopped, changed and re-scaled, it kinda loses a bit of meaning. And Popo becoming a God really wouldn't matter all that much. So Mr Popo being a God would just seem unnecessary, but above all else, meaningless. Besides, Dragon Ball has already done enough retcons in recent years.
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
I like to think of him as attendant to God much like Whis is to Beerus, training him and overseeing his residence. It's really not an uncommon position in Dragon Ball, Kibito is the same way, so is Bubbles too I guess.
VegettoEX wrote:It's completely blown out of proportion by fans who have never actually dealt with seeing Dragon Ball on a week-to-week basis before, are doing so in an era where the social media echo-chamber has never been more effective in regurgitating and parroting their own opinions back at them, have never seen something new for the first time in HD on a monitor six inches from their face, have no understanding of the animation industry, and see no irony at all in complaining about a product they have no legal right to even be watching in the first place.
Marco Polo wrote:He's secretly Karin without the cat costume
And everyone knows but Goku.
VegettoEX wrote:It's completely blown out of proportion by fans who have never actually dealt with seeing Dragon Ball on a week-to-week basis before, are doing so in an era where the social media echo-chamber has never been more effective in regurgitating and parroting their own opinions back at them, have never seen something new for the first time in HD on a monitor six inches from their face, have no understanding of the animation industry, and see no irony at all in complaining about a product they have no legal right to even be watching in the first place.
Mr. Popo doesn't need a god title. Because he just IS. He's beyond all that nonsense. Even Zeno can't compete with him.
Pecking Order>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Everyone else.
So even to this day nobody has any idea what Mr. Popo is besides the fact that he always serves the Kami or Guardian of the earth. Should they retcon him in as a god similar to Beerus?
Please. I don't want any Team Four Star Mr.Popo is God crap in my Dragon Ball
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Dragon Ball Episode 14: Goku's Rival wrote:
Muten Roshi: Bring me a Pichi-pichi gal here. Do that, and I can train you
Son Goku: What's a Bitchy bitchy gag?
Dragon Ball Super Chapter 24: Son Goku's Evolution wrote:
Zamasu:What about you?! Are you prepared to kneel before god?
Vegeta: Don't screw with me... I an the Prince of all Saiyans... Even if I have to die... ...I'LL NEVER GIVE UP MY PRIDE!!!
Innagadadavida wrote:I don't really think it's worth getting worked up about. Very soon we will have our own Wiki. And over time, it will be bigger, better, and more accurate than theirs. We'll have standards. We'll have quality control. We'll have better information. And I'm sure, people will naturally gravitate to it once there is some substance.
The best way to fix the giant cancer that is the DB Wiki is to provide an alternative for those who really want it. Even those who prefer dub names will wind up looking things up on the Kanzenshuu Wiki. Because sooner or later, they're going to need information they know they can trust.
penguintruth wrote:"New in 16:9! It's DBZ as you've partially seen it before!"
VegettoEX wrote:Gonna publish a book called “The Kanzenshuu” and it will have 199 blank pages followed by 1 page with text that simply says “nah Goku is gay though”.
precita wrote:So even to this day nobody has any idea what Mr. Popo is besides the fact that he always serves the Kami or Guardian of the earth. Should they retcon him in as a god similar to Beerus?
Specifically, he's the "attendant" (tsukibito) of the God of Earth; it's the same term used to describe Kibito in relation to Kaioshin, and Whis in relation to Beerus. It's mentioned in the series that he's served that role for multiple generations of Earth's gods.
According to the guides, Popo and Karin both originate in the afterlife, and were dispatched to Earth to assist the local god. This is supposed to be standard procedure throughout the universe, with the god of each planet selected from amongst the planet's population, and these wacky afterlife guys sent to help them out. They're not supposed to directly serve as gods themselves, the idea being that it's best for one of the planet's natives to take that role. Earth is just the exception because it keeps getting stuck with Namekians as god.
Herms wrote:
Specifically, he's the "attendant" (tsukibito) of the God of Earth; it's the same term used to describe Kibito in relation to Kaioshin, and Whis in relation to Beerus.
It's nice to have some confirmation of that. Thanks!
VegettoEX wrote:It's completely blown out of proportion by fans who have never actually dealt with seeing Dragon Ball on a week-to-week basis before, are doing so in an era where the social media echo-chamber has never been more effective in regurgitating and parroting their own opinions back at them, have never seen something new for the first time in HD on a monitor six inches from their face, have no understanding of the animation industry, and see no irony at all in complaining about a product they have no legal right to even be watching in the first place.
Though I'd argue the little bit with Namekians, at least regarding the son of Katas/Kami/etc, mostly because he's been on Earth so long so he counts there like people who've lived in other places for a longer time than their birthplace. Though, Dende....yeah but well if he doesn't intend to leave I guess.
I feel like "God" has been tossed around so much lately. It was impressive when we meet "God," who takes Goku under his wing to train him. Then we find out that there's another God who... trains Goku. Then there is an even higher God, who is kind of the in-between loser God to an even higher God... and then there are other God and there' a Super Saiyan God and a destruction God and a... Damn, I'm confused.
The point is that maybe back during Z times, making Mr. Popo a God would do something for him, but at this point, it's almost like another race. There are the Saiyans, the Namekians, and the Gods. The humans don't count very much.
From what I've heard the term "god" in eastern cultures is more like a job title than a type of being, so it makes sense that there would be a lot of them.
