Nobody's arguing in here. This thread isn't about trying to prove whether anyone's levels are "right" or not.Ludwig wrote:ah... I'm sorry I still can't wrap my mind around it for the simple reason people are arguing on things that aren't even facts written down from the series except for a few like over 9000 bit.
On the contrary...
... An artistic outlook is exactly the approach of this thread. Whether they be serious attempts or not, it's about everyone who participates having their own takes, methods, and results, and proudly displaying them as they would a painting or a completed puzzle. Speaking of which, I'd say it's about time for me to continue...But anyway.. just don't use the word artistic.. honestly.. I'm a nerd too but.. what we nerds do.. isn't artistic when it comes to this xD We just have time on our hands and have a rather strange hobbies.
- "You again?"
- Super Saiyan - 1,075,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 (no lightning) - 1,075,000,001
- (Gohan is his 25th-Budokai self, having been slacking off and is less powerful than he was seven years ago. Still much stronger than the last time he fought Broly though. Some small visual signs suggest Gohan MAY have been intended as a Super Saiyan 2, but since Toei doesn't know its ass from its hands when it comes to properly portraying that type of thing, I choose to ignore it.)
Son Goten - 5,700,000
- Super Saiyan - 285,000,000
- Super Saiyan - 295,000,000
- (The kids are likwise their pre-RoSaT selves from the Boo arc, since this film is supposedly "set" during the short training period before the Tournament. I guess Vegeta was off-planet training, maybe?)
- True Power - 10,000,000,000
Burned out after an overload of power from dressing like Piccolo - 500
- (Good, Kuririn, you look kinda cool!)
- (Videl is pretty strong since she learned how to use Ki, I guess. But I won't bother trying to figure out how she survived a blow from Broly.)
- Super Saiyan - 650,000,000
"Legendary" Super Saiyan - 1,234,500,000
- (Broly has become stronger since last time. He had an advantage over Gohan, but it wasn't so huge that Gohan couldn't put up a fight. Despite eventually losing, Gohan did manage to stun Broly a few times. So essentially, Broly here is the movie equivalent of Dabra.)
MOVIE 11 - "I'M THE ONE WHO'LL WIN, AND I'M NOT EVEN GOKU!"
- "Water: The new Super Saiyan."
- Super Saiyan - 285,000,000
- Super Saiyan - 295,000,000
- (The kids are again at their pre-RoSaT levels, since this film implies that the Budokai ended without any grave incident.)
- Super Saiyan 4 - 45,000,000,000
Randy for 18 - 75,000
Mr. Satan - 9
- "Mark" Form - 1,000,000,000,001
Wet boots - 8
- (Ol' Mark has drastically enhanced his incredible power since his last appearance in the movies.)
- (The Biowarriors were designed to be able to beat Mr. Satan, which they indeed could, but were obviously nothing but fodder to 18 and the boys.)
- (Big ol' sludgehead was far weaker than his prior incarnations, since Goten and Trunks were able to put up a half-decent fight against him when working together. He was still too strong for 18 or either of the boys to fight alone.)
MOVIE 12 - "FUSION REBORN! HERE'S HOPING IT WORKS THIS TIME!"
- "Welcome to Jellybean Hell. I'm Gogeta, and I'll be kicking your ass today."
- Super Saiyan - 1,350,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 - 2,700,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 - 5,400,000,000
- Super Saiyan - 1,275,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 - 2,550,000,000
- (Goku's training in Heaven has made him stronger since the ordeal with Majin Boo, which apparently ended earlier than in the series. Vegeta, floating around in Hell as a little soul-cloud, has NOT become stronger.)
- Super Saiyan - 285,000,000
- Super Saiyan - 295,000,000
- Super Saiyan - 1,750,000,000
- (The kids and Gotenks are lifted straight from their pre-RoSaT selves, again. Since Gohan isn't his Ultimate self in the film, I'd assume this movie splits off from Goku having defeated Majin Boo with SSj3, as he specifically mentioned that fight. Hence, the kids never quite got to their RoSaT training either.)
Freeza - 3,000,000
- (I'll assume Gohan at least got some training with the Z Sword in before everyone learned Boo was defeated. Freeza did not appear bulked or powered up in any way, so I'll assume he was in his relatively surpressed state as when he started fighting Goku on Namek. Makes sense that Gohan can blow him up with a single punch, then.)
Super Janemba - 7,654,000,000
- (Goku actually NEEDS to transform up to Super Saiyan 3 to defeat the Fat Janemba, but once he does it's major overkill. Janemba's devil-like form is much stronger though, and requires Fusion to overcome.)
Super Gogeta - 15,000,000,000
- (Gag-inspired survival of Janemba's attacks notwithstanding, Veku was, literally, laughably weak. Once the Fusion was performed correctly again though... hoo boy, we're back in Overkill City. Gogeta didn't even flinch from Janemba's punch.)
Kuririn - 90,000
- True Power (offscreen making Super Perfect Cell look like an infant) - 65,000,000,000
So basically, multiply everything in there by 10, and it might be a halfway-decent list.Herms wrote:PLANET NAMEK.COM POWER LEVELS
[SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: This is the power level list that was on Planet Namek.com. For those who don't know, Planet Namek.com was an old DB fansite that was depressingly influential in the earlier days of English-speaking DB fandom. Why "depressingly"? Well, just read this thing. PN was largely responsible for, among other things, spreading the mistranslation of Freeza and SSj Goku being at 12 and 15 million rather than 120/150 million (The Ultimate DBZ Information Site being the other main culprit).