The Forgotten Brother

El_Diablo · Post by **El_Diablo** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:34 pm

Burdock and Seripa (and the others) are linked with a "buka" (subordinate) line

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:24 pm

h3ndrix2005 wrote:Here's a link to a family tree found on THIS website.

That is a terrible picture of Raditz.
Just had to say that.

h3ndrix2005 · Post by **h3ndrix2005** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:09 am

Maybe it's because of the perspective/pov. Or, it could be because the art was from early dbz; before Toriyama's art matured. IMO, I think it was just a product of the inconsistencies of the Anime's many different animators. But, it's no big deal, so whatever.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:37 pm

Duo wrote:The idea that you have to have a "pure heart" to make one is some kind of mistranslation or Filler too, from what I can tell, because it is not mentioned anywhere I can find in the Manga.

People probably confused the being able to bounce the Genki Dama back if you have no evil in you with creating the Genki Dama.

Conan: Never quote Beckette as canon. It would be like quoting Pojo's, only worse. Also, don't take video games as canon. Each game differs from the other in attempts to make up for losses and make the game more enjoyable.

Really? I thought Pojo's very first book was rather informative and certainly more accurate and better designed than Beckett's stuff. Namely cause they used the original Japanese sources, while Beckett's about the dub and such. >_>;

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:02 am

Tsekento wrote:People probably confused the being able to bounce the Genki Dama back if you have no evil in you with creating the Genki Dama.

I'm gonna go ahead and agree with you on that, unless someone else reveals something huge and overlooked.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:43 pm

Tsukento wrote:
Conan: Never quote Beckette as canon. It would be like quoting Pojo's, only worse. Also, don't take video games as canon. Each game differs from the other in attempts to make up for losses and make the game more enjoyable.
Really? I thought Pojo's very first book was rather informative and certainly more accurate and better designed than Beckett's stuff. Namely cause they used the original Japanese sources, while Beckett's about the dub and such. >_>;

Exactly my point. Pojo's is based off its fansite. Sure it was a well-enough researched site, but much was second-hand from PN and the Grand Line. Would you consider PN or The Grand Line as DB canon? No, of course not. Now Beckett is simply a dub equivalent of Pojo's.

The S · Post by **The S** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:43 pm

Pojo used to be cool before he sold out.

I would love someone to death if they could provide that full page from which that family tree is from.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:07 pm

The S wrote:I would love someone to death if they could provide that full page from which that family tree is from.

http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~vegex/misc ... oldout.jpg

Apologies for the kinda shitty scan. It's (obviously) a three-page foldout, plus Meri's scanner kinda sucks. I'm not going to keep this up for long, because I'd prefer not seeing my stuff end up on tons of other sites in the coming days

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omae no kaasan · Post by **omae no kaasan** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:27 pm

I thought Pojo's very first book was rather informative and certainly more accurate and better designed than Beckett's stuff.

*clears throat*

Post by **VegettoEX** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:31 pm

Tsukento wrote:I thought Pojo's very first book was rather informative and certainly more accurate and better designed than Beckett's stuff.

I thought they all sucked...

omae no kaasan wrote:*clears throat*

... hard

.

*kicks topic back on*

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:35 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
The S wrote:I would love someone to death if they could provide that full page from which that family tree is from.
http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~vegex/misc ... oldout.jpg

Apologies for the kinda shitty scan. It's (obviously) a three-page foldout, plus Meri's scanner kinda sucks. I'm not going to keep this up for long, because I'd prefer not seeing my stuff end up on tons of other sites in the coming days .

I would love someone to death if they could scanslate what's in the blue-lined box (the relation-grid).

Post by **VegettoEX** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:47 pm

Dayspring wrote:I would love someone to death if they could scanslate what's in the blue-lined box (the relation-grid).

From what I remember, it's just all nonsense, basic talk. Nothing of any importance. Like, "Tullece is a Saiya-jin".

The S · Post by **The S** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:00 am

http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~vegex/misc ... oldout.jpg

(VegettoEX's Godhood increases by +70)

I so need to get my hands on some Daizenshuu...

Post by **VegettoEX** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:03 am

The S wrote:(VegettoEX's Godhood increases by +70)

I so need to get my hands on some Daizenshuu...

It's actually from the DBZ movie 7 color tankôbon.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:05 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
The S wrote:(VegettoEX's Godhood increases by +70)

I so need to get my hands on some Daizenshuu...
It's actually from the DBZ movie 7 color tankôbon.

(Movie 7 or movie 8?)

Really? I just figured it was only the screencap-manga in those and nothing else. Makes me want them now.

The S · Post by **The S** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:15 pm

It's actually from the DBZ movie 7 color tankôbon.

Okay then, let me rephrase that. I need to get my hands on more tankobon than Movie 11.

I was wondering why the entire right side of the page was based on Broly's first movie...

Wait, wasn't Movie 7 the Androids?

Dominator · Post by **Dominator** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:47 pm

Ever noticed how Raditz prides himself in being a Saiyan, despite that Nappa and Vegeta secretly despised him and his father was practically a scumbag. Even if the games don't exactly relate to the series, Bardock doesn't seem very fond of Raditz, and just listen to Raditz's victory quote "father..." just the way he says it...

Post by **VegettoEX** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:51 pm

Yep, the book is for movie 7. It came out in 1993; movie 8 came out that March. Probably hyping up the next movie.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:28 pm

This may be obvious, but the fact that Raditz doesn't look much like Bardock, while Goku looks exactly like him could be explained simply as a genetic quirk for either the Saiyan race or just Bardock's family. Just look at Gohan and Goten. The first son never looked that much like Goku while the second son was a spitting image (at least when he was young).

Of course, Vegeta looks quite similar to King Vegeta and there's no evidence that he's the second son.

MyVisionity · Post by **MyVisionity** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:15 pm

DesireCampbell wrote:This may be obvious, but the fact that Raditz doesn't look much like Bardock, while Goku looks exactly like him could be explained simply as a genetic quirk for either the Saiyan race or just Bardock's family. Just look at Gohan and Goten. The first son never looked that much like Goku while the second son was a spitting image (at least when he was young).

Yeah but you have to remember that Goku's kids were half-breeds, while Raditz was pure Saiyajin.

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