How can dead characters die a second time?
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Re: How can dead characters die a second time?
Oh, it was filler. That explains it.
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Re: How can dead characters die a second time?
Is that the dub? Because my memory of that scene is Kaio saying that you don't have to worry about pain when you're dead (since it's just a holdover memory from life that will soon vanish), not that you can't die when you're dead.Attitudefan wrote:Piccolo killed Chaozu and Ten was like "oh no!" But King Kai was like, "it's okay, he's already dead, he can't die again, he'll just regenerate...." or something along those lines. That would honestly make the most sense. Dying again is a silly concept.
But either way, it's filler.
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Re: How can dead characters die a second time?
Dub? I can't remember the dialogue but I remember the scene fairly well. I know it's filler, but I think it makes sense for dead people not to die again; feel pain I guess is okay but dying again is silly.
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Re: How can dead characters die a second time?
In anime filler, too. Piccolo "killed" Jiaozi during training in the Namek arc, and he just popped back out with no injuries, only for Kaiō to say "Don't worry! You're all already dead, so you won't die a second time!"Piccolo Daimao wrote:Only in Movie #12, which is non-canon to both the manga and anime.andrewtuell1991 wrote:They even made jokes now and again about not being able to die while already dead prior to this.
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Re: How can dead characters die a second time?
Why is this even a debate? It's explicitly stated in chapter 317 (Viz) of the manga, during the Chibi Buu battle when Vegeta decides to join the fray.
Goku: You're gonna hold him off while I build up my chi? But that'll take a whole minute...
Vegeta: SO HURRY!!!
Goku: Well... okay!! But you're dead right now... and if you die again you'll be gone... from this world and the afterlife!
Goku: Vegeta. Stay alive.
Vegeta: ... HMF... Tell that to yourself.
Unless Viz messed that whole scene up, but I highly doubt it. It makes sense for Goku to say that to add dramatic tension, but I could be wrong.
Goku: You're gonna hold him off while I build up my chi? But that'll take a whole minute...
Vegeta: SO HURRY!!!
Goku: Well... okay!! But you're dead right now... and if you die again you'll be gone... from this world and the afterlife!
Goku: Vegeta. Stay alive.
Vegeta: ... HMF... Tell that to yourself.
Unless Viz messed that whole scene up, but I highly doubt it. It makes sense for Goku to say that to add dramatic tension, but I could be wrong.
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Re: How can dead characters die a second time?
I don't remember the anime too much since it's been five years since I watched some of the earlier episodes, but I do remember playing Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 2, and there was a part in which King Kai brought Raditz to his planet so Goku could see how much he improved after all that training he did with King Kai. King Kai said :" You don't need to worry about dying, because you're already dead."andrewtuell1991 wrote:It's just something Toriyama came up with at the last second to make it look like Vegeta would be in danger while fighting Kid Boo to give
Goku a minute to charge SSJ3. Hence why it was never mentioned before. They even made jokes now and again about not being able to die while already dead prior to this.
Any thoughts? (DBZ:BT2 has one of the most accurate sagas, since they actually follow the original story.)
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Re: How can dead characters die a second time?
Because of silly filler confusing people.Deep Thought wrote:Why is this even a debate?
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Re: How can dead characters die a second time?
Maybe you can only die again if you are in the living realm, and have a dead body?
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Re: How can dead characters die a second time?
IDK... taking filler logic into consideration... I guess it depends how you die... If you're just like.. smacked into the ground like Chaozu, you can come back... but if you're all our vaporized, as in Buu blowing up the afterlife, you're gone for good. But then again.... GT had Goku slice Freeza in half and somehow he came back as if nothing happened....
Re: How can dead characters die a second time?
Well, Vegeta wasn't exactly in the "living realm" when Goku made the comment.Dabooyaka wrote:Maybe you can only die again if you are in the living realm, and have a dead body?
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