Buu Saga Kai
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I got a question. Instead of tint we got a 16:9 darker release. Why is it darker? Do remastering make it darker?
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Well Kai is a clusterfuck. So I'll probably just avoid this and stick to my Dragon Boxes.
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See, aside from the pacing being slower, which sounds like that might be for the best, the International version might be the superior version.
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well the international version was made before the cut down version that airs on fuji tv. More work was put into itSoul wrote:See, aside from the pacing being slower, which sounds like that might be for the best, the International version might be the superior version.
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Just listened to the latest podcast from Hujio & VegettoEX, great work guys!. Whilst listening, something set my mind into overdrive - what they mentioned about Sean Schemmel & Kyle Hebert stating they were about to reprise their roles as Goku & Gohan respectively.
Now, what I remembered was the timing of these statements: April. Now, according to what the guys mentioned, all of Fuji TV's seasons start in April, as it works well with Children's holidays in Japan.
Could it be that FUNimation were actually all set to go ahead and begin dubbing, until Toei contacted them to let them know Toriko wouldn't be renewed, and this year would be it's last, and they would have to air Kai in it's place?.
If it is indeed true, that FUNi played a role in persuading Toei to produce the Buu Saga, whether financially or not, Toei thought it right to inform them of the situation, and advised them against paying the Voice Actors to record for 69 episodes worth, when it could very well be a lot less (they would have known they didn't have enough episodes to cover 2 years worth of programming) and offered them the chance to wait it out to see if they would prefer a more streamlined version - meaning they would save money on the dub side of things.
I do find it odd that FUNi haven't officially announced it yet, but have announced Battle of Gods (which seems to have come out of nowhere).
Just a thought I had, and yet another theory behind the craziness that is Dragon Ball Z Kai: Majin Buu Arc.
Now, what I remembered was the timing of these statements: April. Now, according to what the guys mentioned, all of Fuji TV's seasons start in April, as it works well with Children's holidays in Japan.
Could it be that FUNimation were actually all set to go ahead and begin dubbing, until Toei contacted them to let them know Toriko wouldn't be renewed, and this year would be it's last, and they would have to air Kai in it's place?.
If it is indeed true, that FUNi played a role in persuading Toei to produce the Buu Saga, whether financially or not, Toei thought it right to inform them of the situation, and advised them against paying the Voice Actors to record for 69 episodes worth, when it could very well be a lot less (they would have known they didn't have enough episodes to cover 2 years worth of programming) and offered them the chance to wait it out to see if they would prefer a more streamlined version - meaning they would save money on the dub side of things.
I do find it odd that FUNi haven't officially announced it yet, but have announced Battle of Gods (which seems to have come out of nowhere).
Just a thought I had, and yet another theory behind the craziness that is Dragon Ball Z Kai: Majin Buu Arc.
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...I doubt it. I don't think Toriko ending was in the cards about a year out. I'd imagine the decision would be closer to when it would "finish", so to speak. A year out is way too long to make a finalized decision.DBZ_Lee wrote:Just listened to the latest podcast from Hujio & VegettoEX, great work guys!. Whilst listening, something set my mind into overdrive - what they mentioned about Sean Schemmel & Kyle Hebert stating they were about to reprise their roles as Goku & Gohan respectively.
Now, what I remembered was the timing of these statements: April. Now, according to what the guys mentioned, all of Fuji TV's seasons start in April, as it works well with Children's holidays in Japan.
Could it be that FUNimation were actually all set to go ahead and begin dubbing, until Toei contacted them to let them know Toriko wouldn't be renewed, and this year would be it's last, and they would have to air Kai in it's place?.
If it is indeed true, that FUNi played a role in persuading Toei to produce the Buu Saga, whether financially or not, Toei thought it right to inform them of the situation, and advised them against paying the Voice Actors to record for 69 episodes worth, when it could very well be a lot less (they would have known they didn't have enough episodes to cover 2 years worth of programming) and offered them the chance to wait it out to see if they would prefer a more streamlined version - meaning they would save money on the dub side of things.
I do find it odd that FUNi haven't officially announced it yet, but have announced Battle of Gods (which seems to have come out of nowhere).
Just a thought I had, and yet another theory behind the craziness that is Dragon Ball Z Kai: Majin Buu Arc.
I think the reason we never heard anything about FUNimation announcing "Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters", has more to do with the fact that the Vortexx is getting pulled and they didn't have a distribution partner for Television. Had the block continued forward, I wouldn't doubt we'd probably have had new episodes this year broadcasting on it. With Toonami now the new home for Dragon Ball Z Kai, we have at least two years before we get to these episodes here in the States. However, FUNimation may actually decide to start video distribution sooner, given it seemed Madman's release of the arc was planned for this year.
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Does anyone think funimation will get the rights to both versions ? like what they did with battle of gods ?
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They seem to be biding their time with this, but I'm not sure. We're talking two completely different cuts of a series.sintzu wrote:Does anyone think funimation will get the rights to both versions ? like what they did with battle of gods ?
Personally, I think it'd be awesome. But how are they going to sell something like this?
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TV version and a DvD version?Valerius Dover wrote:They seem to be biding their time with this, but I'm not sure. We're talking two completely different cuts of a series.sintzu wrote:Does anyone think funimation will get the rights to both versions ? like what they did with battle of gods ?
Personally, I think it'd be awesome. But how are they going to sell something like this?
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The same way they sell DBZ,when one release is done they push out the nextValerius Dover wrote:But how are they going to sell something like this?
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I guess I could see them doing something like that. Honestly, I'd be glad to get both. I'd get it just for potential English versions of the Fuji TV theme songs. The different pacing would be worth it, too, I guess.sintzu wrote:The same way they sell DBZ,when one release is done they push out the nextValerius Dover wrote:But how are they going to sell something like this?
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If we were still talking Nicktoons, maybe, but I imagine Toonami will want to air the extended version when they get to this point in Kai.TheGmGoken wrote:TV version and a DvD version?Valerius Dover wrote:They seem to be biding their time with this, but I'm not sure. We're talking two completely different cuts of a series.sintzu wrote:Does anyone think funimation will get the rights to both versions ? like what they did with battle of gods ?
Personally, I think it'd be awesome. But how are they going to sell something like this?
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In all honesty, no. I don't think Toei is willing, or even wants, to give out their version. I believe they'll only distribute the singular international version and they'll keep the version that was never intended to exist to themselves.sintzu wrote:Does anyone think funimation will get the rights to both versions ? like what they did with battle of gods ?
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In addition to what Hujio said, it makes sense for Toei to distribute the longer version because then you've got more episodes to sell to consumers.
The shorter TV version fits a very specific purpose: hold a Fuji TV timeslot for roughly a year while we rake in some sponsor money and produce other shows. It's not the "real" version that they've been secretly making for a couple of years now. They're going to want to sell the full 69-episode version to get the money back for everything they produced.
I really don't think there's an audience for both "edited" and "edited even more" versions of a re-cut version of an existing TV series anyway. It's not like a movie where different cuts are actually marketable. Single TV shows are already a decent investment for home video customers as it is.
The shorter TV version fits a very specific purpose: hold a Fuji TV timeslot for roughly a year while we rake in some sponsor money and produce other shows. It's not the "real" version that they've been secretly making for a couple of years now. They're going to want to sell the full 69-episode version to get the money back for everything they produced.
I really don't think there's an audience for both "edited" and "edited even more" versions of a re-cut version of an existing TV series anyway. It's not like a movie where different cuts are actually marketable. Single TV shows are already a decent investment for home video customers as it is.
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Honestly, the theme songs are the only loss for me. I really don't care about the shorter version. If it's as bad as people say (allows no breathing room and has rushed music placement) then let them keep their short version while we get the intended naturally paced version with better music placement.
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Has it actually been confirmed that the theme songs aren't present in the international release?
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It has indeed been confirmed that the international version of the Buu arc features different opening and ending themes than the Japanese TV version.
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^ And we haven't even heard them yet, and they will likely never been released as their full versions on any OST or single, since they are not part of the Japanese promo unlike Like Nothing Before or After and Dear Zarathustra.
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Are these Japanese songs?MagicBox wrote:It has indeed been confirmed that the international version of the Buu arc features different opening and ending themes than the Japanese TV version.
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Yes.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Are these Japanese songs?MagicBox wrote:It has indeed been confirmed that the international version of the Buu arc features different opening and ending themes than the Japanese TV version.
Am I the only one who would love a documentary on Boo arc Kai. I mean from different dubs point of view. Toei speaking on what they done. Interviews. Impact it had. Like this is confusion as shit.