Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Ajay]

Toriyama's script is pretty much exactly what you get in the final product. Some rewrites fixed an issue that had Freeza recognising Bulma from Namek, and Toriyama did leave the intricacies of the fight scenes up to the animators, but aside from that, it's all on him. That Freeza line is printed clear as day in Volume F.

Is that so surprising? In my estimation, if I train hard for 4 months then…I should acquire a battle power of 1.30 million…

Can't say I really care either way, but whatever, there it is. It's easily justifiable if you really want to stretch things.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Yeah, there's a bit more to it than that, with the staff cutting a couple of scenes Toriyama wrote, as well as adding in some like Jaco drawing the picture of Freeza. Like I said though, mostly minor changes.

I feel like if both versions were animated for comparison, a good chunk of people would just gloss over the differences.

[Ajay]

Yeah, there's a bit more to it than that.

I'm aware; I wasn't trying to correct your post. Just adding my own two cents into the mix. Though I guess too vaguely, it seems.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

The manga version of the movie doesn't have the 1.30 million line, so I'll go by that and ignore it as well. (Seems like Toyotaro/Toyble saw that this was BS.)

[SaiyanZ]

Is it just me or did Schemmel make Goku sound a little to high pitched in this movie? I still liked the voice a lot but I thought there was just a hint of too much happiness or w/e.

Toriyama's script is pretty much exactly what you get in the final product. Some rewrites fixed an issue that had Freeza recognising Bulma from Namek, and Toriyama did leave the intricacies of the fight scenes up to the animators, but aside from that, it's all on him. That Freeza line is printed clear as day in Volume F.

Is that so surprising? In my estimation, if I train hard for 4 months then…I should acquire a battle power of 1.30 million…

Can't say I really care either way, but whatever, there it is. It's easily justifiable if you really want to stretch things.

Volume F has been translated?

[kidhero1000]

Geekdom why do u say Toriyama didn't write the script for FNF what makes u say that.

It’s really embarrassing to have this called a “screenplay”. It’d probably be more accurate to say it’s just a memo. It’s simply something I idly dashed off for the staff, just to help explain the flow of the story and the dialogue! Never in a million years did I think it would get published. If any of you are trying to become scriptwriters, please don’t use this as an example!!

I guess you could say that some things are difficult for anyone but the original author to write, because only the original author can freely mess around with what’s already been established. A scriptwriter would get tied up trying not to screw with the original story, so in that respect they’d probably have a harder time messing around with things.

Then there’s the dialogue. The original author knows each character’s personality and backstory, so they can naturally think up dialogue that suits them.

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

Okay, so I got to watch the movie a few hours ago and I wanted to share my thoughts about it with you all.

Spoiler:

All the negative reactions of the film on this site were really affecting my anticipation of the film but all the critical praise it was getting was really exciting me so I walked into this movie with a bit of scepticism only to later find myself walking out of the theatre with the biggest fucking smile on my face.

It was everything I wanted it to be; A fantastic blend of action and humour. What bugged me with Battle of Gods was its pacing and its over-reliance on humour rather than blending both action and humour (the two things that this series is well known for). I still really love Battle of Gods because it's essentially the thing that brought this series back on its feet, but Resurrection 'F' did what I was really wanting in Battle of Gods but didn't end up getting.

The story, although incredibly simple, worked, purely because it creates a set-piece where most of the Z-fighters (yes, I call them that) are involved. I didn't mind the absence of some characters except for Majin Buu, I think it would have been pretty interesting to see Freeza's reaction to him. Goku and Vegeta were my favourite thing about the movie, their banter and interactions were fantastic. Vegeta turning SSGSS and beating the everliving shit outta Freeza was my favourite part (and don't lie... it was yours too ), it's just something that we needed to see happen. Jaco was definitely a highlight, the guy was great and I can't wait to see more of him. I loved Beerus and Whis in this movie, especially Whis, we get to learn more about him and we got to see him throw down against Goku and Vegeta.

The film looked beautiful. A lot of people were complaining about the CGI but I thought it really complimented the look of the film and it really made for some incredible cinematography. I just love how in some scenes the camera would swirl around characters as their fighting. Oh yeah... The fighting. It was the best. Literally the best action that has ever graced this series. There was some really stunning choreography here, especially when the gang was fighting off the Freeza Force.

The soundtrack was fine. I need to watch the film a few more times so some tracks can stick out but I love the use of 'F' by Maximum the Hormone, it fit the film surprisingly well. 'Pledge of Z' by Momoiro Clover Z has grown on me but for fucks sake the English lyrics literally sounded like they copied the Japanese lyrics, pasted them into Google translate and sung what was there.

The English dub was fucking fantastic. Chris Ayers was absolutely incredible. The guy is the best VA in the English dub and I think he's better than Ryūsei Nakao. Everyone else was top notch but Chris Ayers was definitely the highlight performance for me.

My problems with the film are very few. The film felt too short. I don't know if it was because I was enjoying it so much that time flew by like crazy or that the films pacing was too fast. I really hope that there's an extended edition, I know that Dragon Ball Super is retelling the film but for the sake of my love for the film rather than a TV adaptation I would really appreciate an extended cut. Another problem I had isn't really with the movie but the poster, why the hell is Tagoma on the damn poster if he dies within the first 15 minutes of the film? That really bugged me. This is just another minor nitpick but I would have loved it if the film ended better. I'm not complaining about Goku killing Freeza rather than Vegeta killing him, I'm not rustling my jimmies over that which so many people are pissed off about. I just don't like how the film ends with a shot of Goku smiling and then cutting to the credits. I loved how Battle of Gods ended with a really funny moment and having the camera tilt upwards to the night sky glittered with stars accompanied by a really beautiful, slow, orchestrated rendition of Head Cha-La. Something similar to that really would have done it for me but, again, it's a nitpick.

Aside from those things, I loved this movie. I love it so goddamn much. Did it affect the series like Battle of Gods did? No. Was it a better movie? Yes, simply because I think that it captured the essence of Dragon Ball perfectly and gave us a film that will be appealing to most fans and even those who aren't even into the series (I took my friend with me to watch the film, he isn't very familiar with the series but he ended up loving the movie). Look at the reviews by those who haven't watched Dragon Ball. Charles Solomon, a top critic from the LA Times, gave Resurrection 'F' a better review than Battle of Gods. I find the reasons as to why some people on this site who didn't like the film really petty and just a combination of nitpicks and Gohan fanboyism... But hey... It's all just a bunch of opinions (After all... these opinions were close to making me not look forward to the film any more but thankfully I looked at some reviews from actual critics).

If I were to give this film a score it would be a 9/10.

[foxfang4]

Okay, so I got to watch the movie a few hours ago and I wanted to share my thoughts about it with you all.

Spoiler:

All the negative reactions of the film on this site were really affecting my anticipation of the film but all the critical praise it was getting was really exciting me so I walked into this movie with a bit of scepticism only to later find myself walking out of the theatre with the biggest fucking smile on my face.

It was everything I wanted it to be; A fantastic blend of action and humour. What bugged me with Battle of Gods was its pacing and its over-reliance on humour rather than blending both action and humour (the two things that this series is well known for). I still really love Battle of Gods because it's essentially the thing that brought this series back on its feet, but Resurrection 'F' did what I was really wanting in Battle of Gods but didn't end up getting.

The story, although incredibly simple, worked, purely because it creates a set-piece where most of the Z-fighters (yes, I call them that) are involved. I didn't mind the absence of some characters except for Majin Buu, I think it would have been pretty interesting to see Freeza's reaction to him. Goku and Vegeta were my favourite thing about the movie, their banter and interactions were fantastic. Vegeta turning SSGSS and beating the everliving shit outta Freeza was my favourite part (and don't lie... it was yours too ), it's just something that we needed to see happen. Jaco was definitely a highlight, the guy was great and I can't wait to see more of him. I loved Beerus and Whis in this movie, especially Whis, we get to learn more about him and we got to see him throw down against Goku and Vegeta.

The film looked beautiful. A lot of people were complaining about the CGI but I thought it really complimented the look of the film and it really made for some incredible cinematography. I just love how in some scenes the camera would swirl around characters as their fighting. Oh yeah... The fighting. It was the best. Literally the best action that has ever graced this series. There was some really stunning choreography here, especially when the gang was fighting off the Freeza Force.

The soundtrack was fine. I need to watch the film a few more times so some tracks can stick out but I love the use of 'F' by Maximum the Hormone, it fit the film surprisingly well. 'Pledge of Z' by Momoiro Clover Z has grown on me but for fucks sake the English lyrics literally sounded like they copied the Japanese lyrics, pasted them into Google translate and sung what was there.

The English dub was fucking fantastic. Chris Ayers was absolutely incredible. The guy is the best VA in the English dub and I think he's better than Ryūsei Nakao. Everyone else was top notch but Chris Ayers was definitely the highlight performance for me.

My problems with the film are very few. The film felt too short. I don't know if it was because I was enjoying it so much that time flew by like crazy or that the films pacing was too fast. I really hope that there's an extended edition, I know that Dragon Ball Super is retelling the film but for the sake of my love for the film rather than a TV adaptation I would really appreciate an extended cut. Another problem I had isn't really with the movie but the poster, why the hell is Tagoma on the damn poster if he dies within the first 15 minutes of the film? That really bugged me. This is just another minor nitpick but I would have loved it if the film ended better. I'm not complaining about Goku killing Freeza rather than Vegeta killing him, I'm not rustling my jimmies over that which so many people are pissed off about. I just don't like how the film ends with a shot of Goku smiling and then cutting to the credits. I loved how Battle of Gods ended with a really funny moment and having the camera tilt upwards to the night sky glittered with stars accompanied by a really beautiful, slow, orchestrated rendition of Head Cha-La. Something similar to that really would have done it for me but, again, it's a nitpick.

Aside from those things, I loved this movie. I love it so goddamn much. Did it affect the series like Battle of Gods did? No. Was it a better movie? Yes, simply because I think that it captured the essence of Dragon Ball perfectly and gave us a film that will be appealing to most fans and even those who aren't even into the series (I took my friend with me to watch the film, he isn't very familiar with the series but he ended up loving the movie). Look at the reviews by those who haven't watched Dragon Ball. Charles Solomon, a top critic from the LA Times, gave Resurrection 'F' a better review than Battle of Gods. I find the reasons as to why some people on this site who didn't like the film really petty and just a combination of nitpicks and Gohan fanboyism... But hey... It's all just a bunch of opinions (After all... these opinions were close to making me not look forward to the film any more but thankfully I looked at some reviews from actual critics).

If I were to give this film a score it would be a 9/10.

I agree with pretty much everything you wrote.

The only gripe that I have, is that the ending didn't have major implications in the Dragon Ball universe. That's 1 of the things I love most about DB & Toriyama's writing. How one fight can change the course of the series forever.

When...

Spoiler:

Frieza blew up the earth, followed by Bulma crying, I was blown away. I thought "this is it! We're going into uncharted territory." But, the "reset" button was pressed of course. At first, I was a bit let down by the ending. But, after a bit of reflection, I think it's a smart way to end the film. We got every possible scenario (Frieza beats Goku. Frieza beats Vegeta. Vegeta and Goku beat Frieza), & it even sees the characters have to change their thinking in order to win. It's very different from anything I could have predicted.

[JEFFMAN219]

I really enjoyed this movie. There was a lot more action scenes compared to Battle of Gods. I'm only kinda disappointed about the ending because Goku took Vegetas moment and the way Goku killed Freeza was such a cop out. Overall I feel like this film was better then Battle of Gods.

[Sora Saiyan]

Edit: Nevermind.

[G1GACANN0N]

Well they dun' f*cked it up. EVERY single showing of Resurrection F has been sold out here...really, only ONE showing on a Saturday? They should have shown it all day today.

[Zephyr]

Just got back from seeing this with my gf and roommate. Really enjoyed it. There seemed to be a heavy emphasis on martial arts, which is a huge breathe of fresh air; the two Bruce Lee references, the choreography, etc. There was also a great deal more humor than I was lead to believe. My only gripes with it were the CGI, the pop idol song during the credits, and F's instrumental version playing over Beerus and Whis talking about food.

As far as I can tell, if you don't try to force your own personal system for interpreting feats, statements, implications, and the like onto the film, the grounds for battle power related gripes whither away.

[dbzfan7]

Finally saw the movie live, and just like I thought. Turn your damn brain off if you want to have a good time. Forget every detail that you might care about (cause the writing team don't care), and you'll have a much better time. Did that with Battle of Gods last year, and did it this year. It's really the only way to have for me to have fun with these movies, which I do. Remember, they don't give a fuck about being consistent, so why bother putting the brain process into making it all work, when you can just forget it and have a good time. I'm surprised it was sold out when I went in. Never expected a Dragon Ball movie to be sold out twice no less where I am.

Everything I thought was dumb, still dumb. Everything I thought I'd enjoy, I did. Dubbed stuff brought me some joy and it all looked great on screen...cept the CG shit. To list it out since I don't want to repeat myself over the course of a long time.

Positive
-Banter is fun
-Jaco is great
-Animation aside from CG is good
-Music is decent but horribly forgettable
-Chris Ayres is amazing as Freeza and steps it up further
-Whis is a joy to see and hear from.
-Vegeta mentioned his rule over his planet which I can't remember if that was said in the Japanese, as I believe him missing out on being ruler meant more than it's people he never cared for.
-Freeza talking shit is funny
-Choreography (outside the poor mook rush choreography) is excellent. Add speed and forceful blows and it'd be a real treat to watch.
-The torture parts are the only time anyone sells a devastating blow, and the one inch punch too.
-Vegeta beating down Freeza was a joy to listen to with Sabat's voice. Though the concept kinda soils Vegeta here for me
-Goku's power up to SSGSS sounded better than Masako's fart grunt. One case where I give Schemmel the point over her.
-All the english voice actors sound great...except a few...

Negative
-Beerus is still an annoying shit head.
-Mook rush still looks dumb when so many people stand around and do nothing. Also the concept needed work.
-Fights still lacked any sense of speed (outside of the cheap shockwaves which do not compensate speed...though Gohan is the only one to show true speed)
-Fights lack any impact. I swear everyone is giving love taps and not selling these moves. They don't look as painful as they should.
-Goku's deep SSGSS voice puts me off. I think it's too deep and should sound lighter.
-Freeza's colours still look awful on screen
-Deviantart Saiyans are still horrendous
-Tension still completely lacking from numerous work arounds.
-Beerus and Whis feel tagged on beyond their introduction in the movie (outside of Deus ex Whis). There stupid food gimmick for some reason interrupted F for no good reason.
-F is inserted poorly into the final battle.
-Don't like Sorbet's voice
-18, Marron, Videl, Pan, Chi Chi, dead....BUT VEGETA BOOHOO VEGETAAAA! Only Vegeta Sempai really matters.
-Numerous things I have to turn my brain off for or else I'll lose my sense of enjoyment.

Same deal as last year for me. Turn off brain, enjoy movie. I'd really like to not have to do that and just forgive the few things I may be bugged by...but it's more than a few. Still fun time regardless.

[ekrolo2]

Pretty big waste of time even making this into a movie, especially now that Super has made both this and BoG completely pointless for future viewers of the series who weren't around when they first came around as the movies did. The animation looked pretty great with the fighting choreography being vastly superior to pretty much anything else that came before. Certain interactions were great like Bulma & Freeza or Bulma & Jaco. Chris Ayer's is always a joy to listen to as Freeza, dudes one of the best in the whole franchise, its just a shame this is probably the last time he'll get to play this character, not a good send off at all.

Freeza's entire role in this was already shown in Fusion Reborn: comes back, doesn't do s*it to learn from his mistakes, gets killed like a joke. Only here it's an hour and 28 minutes longer than it needs to be. Goku's character was already humbled in BoG so I don't know wtf Whis is even talking about with his character flaw. Him & Vegeta not wanting to work together makes no sense, they worked to beat Buu and didn't have any hard feelings over it before. Another forced retcon.

At this point, Dragon Ball feels like an old friend you keep meeting up with and you used to love this friend like a brother. But after so many years, you just can't help but feel that he needs to change himself up a bit and stop acting the same now as he was back then. BoG showed that Dragon Ball was starting to evolve somewhat, this and the beginning of Super have taken that notion and quietly shived in the corner of a dank, depressing prison cell and left it to bleed to death. Probably gonna get a bunch of "But this is what Dragon Ball is!" comments but DB has been playing the same act for 20 years now and I think its time to shake up the formula. If DB can go from a more adventurous series to full blown, balls out action, I think we can survive getting at least a short while of something different & smarter without needing the next big release to ruin all of that before it can truly take form like FnF has.

[LostTimeLord]

Apologies if this has already been posted or is in the wrong thread, but it turns out 4 days ago the Resurrection 'F' soundtrack was officially released digitally in the UK!
iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/drago ... 1022371786
Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/music/alb ... a&hl=en_GB
Amazon: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B012 ... 1439068610
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/4RNgenW1SsbjKP5GumOV1z
Edit: Ah, so there was US release on the same day; Somehow I missed that when I was searching the forum. Well, there's the UK links anyway.

[MagicBox]

*SPIT TAKE*

You can actually buy the original Japanese BGM for a Dragon Ball movie without having to import a CD.

What a time to be alive.

I've already imported the CD, myself, but this is still a HUGE step forward.

[Herms]

The manga version of the movie doesn't have the 1.30 million line, so I'll go by that and ignore it as well. (Seems like Toyotaro/Toyble saw that this was BS.)

There's plenty of differences between Toyotaro's manga adaptations for RoF/Super and their animated counterparts. I doubt they're all due to Toyataro thinking the anime version was BS, and I don't see any reason to think that's the case here.

[DarkPrince_92]

Finally saw the movie in theaters. I liked it.

Didn't take a liking to the CGI that appeared, a lot. But the fight animation was great for the most part. Surprised to see more than a generic punch and kick come from the Z Fighters; it looked like actual martial arts.

The scenes were kind of all over the place, seemed a little jumpy at points. The ending was... well I'll let others see for themselves in due time.

What's the next step? Super is out and will keep things moving for a while, so I'm curious what the next film would be, if there's any after this.

[SaiyanZ]

Rewatched it, dialog and humor were great, but story was absolute shit. I thought it would be better than what I had heard but goddamn, CGI was terrible. OST was good though. Characters felt like themselves but Goku's weakness was horribly portrayed with the laser gun. That wasn't even "off-guard", that was a sucker punch like what Whis did earlier in the movie. Also I didn't like how it was Goku's mercy that was harped upon, considering he got over that after blasting Freeza on Namek. Such bs, I'd probably score it a 4-5/10

[goku the krump dancer]

Saw it earlier today… JACO IS HILARIOUS…

In fact the chemistry between all the characters is what I loved most. However the core premise of the movie is still pretty pointless.

C+ at best.