Backstories as seperate volumes?
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Backstories as seperate volumes?
Now, in Dragon Ball, there are some characters' backstories that are not really looked deep into. This is probably because Toriyama felt there wasn't any space in the story for him to put it into.
So, I was wondering...maybe, for backstories of characters or stories, they could have them as seperate manga volumes. Like the "Trunks: The Story" chapter at the end of DBZ Volume 17, only expanded upon in full detail.
Thoughts?
So, I was wondering...maybe, for backstories of characters or stories, they could have them as seperate manga volumes. Like the "Trunks: The Story" chapter at the end of DBZ Volume 17, only expanded upon in full detail.
Thoughts?
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Yes, that would be awesome! Doesn't seem too likely to happen... but who knows..
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This is a bit of an interesting question for me, as I would absolutely love to get really deep into the personalities of Lunch, Tenshinhan, Chaotzu, Freeza, and especially Pilaf. Really, anything to get away from the all Saiyan hour that the series became in the the last parts of Z. However, I don't think this would work well as a Toriyama story. His style works much better when it isn't trying to be serious or realistic. Perhaps this would work as a spinoff where another creator takes on a character that they like from a predetermined list?
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Re: Backstories as seperate volumes?
I'd like to see someone do manga adaptions of the movies and TV specials in the way there was a manga adaption of the JSAT Special, but I really wouldn't want too much introspective character-developing stuff that would make Dragonball feel more like Naruto or Vagabond where it's all about personality and the actual plot is just there for context. Not that I don't like Naruto or Vagabond (I love Vagabond!), but it just doesn't feel like a Dragonball thing. It'd be like putting romance in Dragonball.
I wouldn't mind random side-story solo adventures, though! "Yamcha's Baseball Brawl Filler Extravaganza" sounds like it'd be a fun, goofy thing to read!
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I can't really imagine getting real deep into characters that are only there for comic relief like Pilaf, Shuu, Puar and Oolong, ect.. But maybe some "tidbits" on them.IncompetentOverlord wrote:This is a bit of an interesting question for me, as I would absolutely love to get really deep into the personalities of Lunch, Tenshinhan, Chaotzu, Freeza, and especially Pilaf. Really, anything to get away from the all Saiyan hour that the series became in the the last parts of Z. However, I don't think this would work well as a Toriyama story. His style works much better when it isn't trying to be serious or realistic. Perhaps this would work as a spinoff where another creator takes on a character that they like from a predetermined list?
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Yeah, if backstories were included as seperate volumes, I wouldn't want too much introspective character development stuff too. Just backstories that explains their history. Like, with Piccolo/Kami-Sama's backstory, it could feature the cataclysm on Planet Namek, Kami-Sama's adventures on Earth, then him becoming God of Earth at the end.Kendamu wrote:I really wouldn't want too much introspective character-developing stuff that would make Dragonball feel more like Naruto or Vagabond where it's all about personality and the actual plot is just there for context. Not that I don't like Naruto or Vagabond (I love Vagabond!), but it just doesn't feel like a Dragonball thing. It'd be like putting romance in Dragonball.
I'm not so sure whether I would want a backstory volume on Freeza, though. There's not much you could say about him. Granted, that's the same for other characters, but at least with a character like Lunch, we can make a backstory as to how her blonde self got drawn into thieving, something like that. If Toriyama did a backstory saying how Freeza built up his intergalactic empire, it might end up being too boring for Shonen.
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Backstories as separate issues would be neat. In fact, they are.
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Re: Backstories as seperate volumes?
Yeah, but those aren't really expanded upon that much. They would need to be longer than that. I'm not asking for something ridiculously in-depth or anything like that, but more so it feels like a proper story.desirecampbell wrote:Backstories as separate issues would be neat. In fact, they are.
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Mike and Herms talked about it a year and a half ago: http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... =13&t=8253
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Eh, I'm not sure I'd like too many backstory exposition stories. That's how you get bizarreness like Tenshinhan being a descendant of the Three-Eyed Tribe and crap like that. I'd much rather just see some of the more neglected characters have their own adventures expounded upon. If history and character can be a part of those stories, then that's fine, but doing backstory for backstory's sake... gets you the Star Wars prequels, and we don't need any more of that crap.
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Well, Toriyama is kind of done with them. The gag period for those characters ended when Toriyama dumped them. Therefore I see no problem with a more dramatic and personal author picking up those stories and running with them. You know, like the Bardock special, only with manga characters.SaiyaMel wrote:I can't really imagine getting real deep into characters that are only there for comic relief like Pilaf, Shuu, Puar and Oolong, ect.. But maybe some "tidbits" on them.IncompetentOverlord wrote:This is a bit of an interesting question for me, as I would absolutely love to get really deep into the personalities of Lunch, Tenshinhan, Chaotzu, Freeza, and especially Pilaf. Really, anything to get away from the all Saiyan hour that the series became in the the last parts of Z. However, I don't think this would work well as a Toriyama story. His style works much better when it isn't trying to be serious or realistic. Perhaps this would work as a spinoff where another creator takes on a character that they like from a predetermined list?
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Re: Backstories as seperate volumes?
While were on the subject of adapting Dragon Ball stories into Manga volumes, I think Dragon Ball GT should be adapted except with stupid things cut out of it like the Super 17 arc and Gohan going Super Saiyan.
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Oh, Jesus Christ...Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:I think Dragon Ball GT should be adapted except with stupid things cut out of it like ... Gohan going Super Saiyan.
I'm not sure how much backstory you can give a lot of the characters that would be too terribly interesting. Nobody likes Kuririn? Yamcha and Puar shoot the shit over a cup of tea? Vegeta kills a family at age 11?
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What? Gohan going Super Saiyan was a direct contradiction of the "mystic" power up he obtained in Z.
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Re: Backstories as seperate volumes?
Backstories would be nice, but I want the Satan and Buu gag manga Toriyama said would be the only thing he'd do if he did any more Dragonball manga stories. XD Especially if he has them move to Penguin Village for the series~
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Re: Backstories as seperate volumes?
I'd prefer it if they did a joint Manga and Anime back story. I mean have them as separate Manga's that are cannon BUT Do new animated movies around them, Toy's around them, A video game perhaps too.
My idea for title of new brand would be "Dragonball Origins" (I know there was a game called that but still.) Here is the kind of thing I had in mind :
Dragonball Origins : The Proud Prince (Vegeta's story)
Dragonball Origins : Tyrant of Terror (Frieza's story)
Dragonball Origins : We need a Champion (Mr Satan's Story)
Dragonball Origins : Vegeta the father of Vegeta (okay that name was for laughs but a King Vegeta story like the bardock one)
Dragonball Origins : He came from space! (A deeper look at baby Goku landing on earth and Gohan trying to teach him and raise him)
While some or all of those may not be what want to see it's an idea. It gives us new films and new Manga but also looks at stuff that's not been explored as well as it could. While the other one of Mr Satan's Story can be a goofy funny story of him winning the championship and becoming earth's champion.
My idea for title of new brand would be "Dragonball Origins" (I know there was a game called that but still.) Here is the kind of thing I had in mind :
Dragonball Origins : The Proud Prince (Vegeta's story)
Dragonball Origins : Tyrant of Terror (Frieza's story)
Dragonball Origins : We need a Champion (Mr Satan's Story)
Dragonball Origins : Vegeta the father of Vegeta (okay that name was for laughs but a King Vegeta story like the bardock one)
Dragonball Origins : He came from space! (A deeper look at baby Goku landing on earth and Gohan trying to teach him and raise him)
While some or all of those may not be what want to see it's an idea. It gives us new films and new Manga but also looks at stuff that's not been explored as well as it could. While the other one of Mr Satan's Story can be a goofy funny story of him winning the championship and becoming earth's champion.
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I'd love to see a history of Yamcha. We barely know ANYTHING about him before he ran into Goku.
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