Dragon Ball Wiki Unreliable?

[Lord Frieza]

Sorry if this has its own topic already (if so please give me a link).

Is what I've heard true, is it that unreliable?

[ShadowDude112]

The Dragon Ball wikia is entirely unreliable. It exclusively uses dub terms, uses misinformation, and is just all around not a good wiki and isn't quality checked at all. It's why you see no one here use it.

[DB1984]

They also claim the following falsehood:

Others have claimed that FUNimation altered the colors of the show, despite claims they kept the colors true to their Japanese prints. A prime example, during the Goku/Vegeta fight, in the Japanese Dragon Box, the sky is green, while in the box set, the sky is blue. It should be noted that in the Pioneer DVDs, the sky is blue, thus claiming that was the color of FUNimation's Japanese film prints. It was later found out, in an interview with Toei Animation, that they in fact changed the original colors for the Dragon Box release.

I thought Toei did NOT purposely change any of the colors for the Dragon Boxes. Least as far as I can tell, the only reason THOSE have greenish tint to the skies is because of how they were stored by Toei, and that they had decayed. In which interview did they claim they purposely changed the colors?

[Metalwario64]

First of all, the Pioneer footage still has a greenish sky (more than the other episodes of the Pioneer run), and it's obvious to anyone with eyes that the colors were heavily altered on the Season Sets (and the Blu-rays to a point).



Second of all, what the hell does " thus claiming that was the color of FUNimation's Japanese film prints" even fucking mean?

[Herms]

Well, it's not like they're 100% wrong about everything all of the time, or even most of the time. They say Goku's a Saiyan. They say the series was created by Akira Toriyama. They've got stuff like that down pat. But they've got no adequate fact-checking system, so totally wrong information can slip in from time to time (like "Daizenshuu 6 says Lucifer is a Makaioshin"). So the fact that the wikia claims X is not on its own a good reason to think X is true. It's best to verify with another source (and they've got a nasty habit of misrepresenting what sources actually say).

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

I feel them acting like dub mistakes are fact (Goten and Trunks having Super Saiyan 3) make it unreliable also.

[CashmanX]

Not to mention going out of their way to give the old Funi dub priority in terms of reference material. When suggested why they don't instead use the more accurate Viz manga as a reference point instead, they responded that the Funi dub is what most people are used to.(Despite the fact that it's inaccurate AND not just Americans use that wiki, which might leave some foreign fans in the dark/misinformed)

[Lord Beerus]

Don't trust the DB Wiki in any sesne. It's full of so much misinformation in so many significant areas, that it's almost ridiculous.

Well, it's not like they're 100% wrong about everything all of the time, or even most of the time. They say Goku's a Saiyan. They say the series was created by Akira Toriyama. They've got stuff like that down pat.

Oh, man. I don't why this made me chuckle so much, but it did.

[Kakacarrottop]

Of course it's unreliable, half of the content on it is unsourced. Major articles like the Goku page only have about 2 or 3 references, many others also contain subjective fan theories. It's just another typical "wikia". Maybe in the future it'll improve but right now it's just a work in progress aimed at mainstream fans.

[Polyphase Avatron]

There's also the whole "Dabura is Beelzebub from Sand Land's dad" thing.

[jjgp1112]

The wiki is really, really bad, made even worse by their arrogant admin who refuses to believe there's a problem with the site and will vehemently fight to keep crappy misinformation if it means having to change something that's been up for a while.

The problem is twofold: users putting up whatever they want, and really bad moderation and content control. Exactly why the Kanzenshuu Wiki can't come soon enough

[Bullza]

A couple months ago I found all info out on the DBZ video game sales, official sales from credible sources like Namco Bandai, Famitsu, Atari etc.

At the time on the wiki they only had the Vgchartz figures which everyone knows isn't credible at all.

I went through all these game pages, corrected the sales, added in the sources and as a result there was one idiot who kept removing it because A) I was new and he hadn't seen me before and B) He'd just not heard of the sources, he'd never heard of Famitsu so it didn't count. When I would explain what it was his response was just "I don't believe you".

I'd keep adding it back in, explaining it to him and he would keep removing it. Eventually he told an admin he knew and he just banned me.

Eventually I got on there and got it to stay on there but the people involved on the thing are completely useless.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

I remember arguing about Redjic being stronger than Freeza (and just base Saiyans being stronger than Freeza in GT in general), which the "Neffaryous" user kept trying to deny, because of Beers' comment in Battle of Gods. I even told him about Goku fighting General Rild in base after calling Rild's Ki greater than Buu's, and fighting Freeza and Cell in base form in Hell, yet he refused to listen, just saying "agree to disagree, we're not going to convince eachother of anything."

[VegettoEX]

I remember arguing about Redjic being stronger than Freeza (and just base Saiyans being stronger than Freeza in GT in general), which the "Neffaryous" user kept trying to deny, because of Beers' comment in Battle of Gods. I even told him about Goku fighting General Rild in base after calling Rild's Ki greater than Buu's, and fighting Freeza and Cell in base form in Hell, yet he refused to listen, just saying "agree to disagree, we're not going to convince eachother of anything."

Well, subjective battle power / strength discussions are... just that: subjective. I'd say that response was fair.

That, however, has nothing to do with wildly-made-up misinformation, like "Majin Piccolo".

[Kamiccolo9]

They are also very "selective" about the translations they'll accept from this site. Like, they'll happily take news that the staff here post, but anything to do with something the hive mind of the site is against isn't allowed because "we don't accept fan work."

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Well, subjective battle power / strength discussions are... just that: subjective. I'd say that response was fair.

I can't really see how one can argue that Goku is weaker than Freeza in Base when he fights General Rild (stated to be stronger than Buu) in Base form. There's really now way around that.

[SSJ Human]

I feel them acting like dub mistakes are fact (Goten and Trunks having Super Saiyan 3) make it unreliable also.

Yeah that was pretty funny. I couldn't believe they included those purported forms because if they really had them, at least in GT, why didn't they ever use them?

[jjgp1112]

They are also very "selective" about the translations they'll accept from this site. Like, they'll happily take news that the staff here post, but anything to do with something the hive mind of the site is against isn't allowed because "we don't accept fan work."

Yeah, when you try to correct a translation error that they've been using they'll just dismiss Kanzenshuu's translators as no better than anybody else. It's a very confusing dichotomy over there. They just want to preserve whatever they've been accustomed to for a while.

[Lord Frieza]

After going over the site I've also noticed they have filler arcs and GT as part of the characters main bio pages. Know don't miss understand me I'm not trying to put down GT (while its not perfect there's stuff I like about it) and some of of the anime filler is quite enjoyable but it shouldn't be listed as part of the main series without some notification. Other wikis like Naruto and One Piece keep such material separate, providing links from the main pages.

[ABED]

A while back I was looking stuff up about Tao Pai Pai and it talked about how he and his brother had a falling out. I didn't remember that at all for good reason, it was created for the dub. I would be fine if they mentioned that on the page, but made it clear that it was a dub only backstory.