Kanzenshuu

>He almost dies and is comatose because his revenge nearly led him to ruin. >On deaths door, he hears Bardock's story (which we see on screen and he tells us he heard). He reflects on that and on the events leading up to what he did. No need to show them again because they've already been presented...

A good example of Granolah is actually Vegeta in the Buu arc. He starts the arc wanting to be his old self because he’s dissatisfied with who he is. He then tries to go back to his old self, but realizes he’s become far too complicated as a person to go back to being who he used to be. Then he dies....

I don't agree with this attitude of deciding what must be done. I think it's kind of odd to point to a Zack Snyder work to explain how something in Dragon Ball should be presented. You used the word "rebirth". For a rebirth to happen, there has to be a triggering event, there has to be th...

The rebirth shouldn’t happen offscreen. Whether it’s Excalibur or Zack Snyder’s Justice League, the rebirth has to happen onscreen. The character who is reborn then has to reason out why the way they were before wasn’t working and why they must be different now. Going “I heard your father’s voice” w...

Hey, looks like Toyotaro finally remembered Granolah exists. Don't see the need for him praising Bardock for some reason, but hey. Please, for the love of God, let this be the end of this fight. Nothing was accomplished, there was no building in this fight and it was just a conveyor belt of tropes a...

I think Vegeta suffers from that same I-am-my-own-worst-enemy-and-subsequent-downfall mentality that Thanos is afflicted with. No matter how strong he gets or whatever tricks he learns, Vegeta still finds ways to lose against whichever latest threat and then just accepts his fate no matter how seve...

For me, you can't stick a landing if you were never flying in the first place. The journey matters more than the finale. No matter how this arc ends, it can't be good for me because getting there was no good. Same applies to the Moro arc as far as I'm concerned. It's crazy how the end of the tournam...

snip It comes down to what you expect from late-stage Dragonball. I can do without the fighting and the inflated fake drama about the fate of the world or whatever. That makes Moro a tough sell for me from the get-go. If Moro is the scourge of the universe threatening to eat up all existence, why d...

This arc is bad, but it’s still leaps and bounds beyond that Moro shit. At lest this arc has a coherent theme to it. That’s more than I can say about Moro.

Personal gripes are personal gripes, but when it comes to the point where an entire page of posts is centered around wondering why Toriyama and Uchida aren’t rushing to save a ship that isn’t sinking... I resent that remark because I am on this page. Anyway, while I’m generally against using popula...

Sure, Toyotarou does the vast majority of the writing, but Toriyama is the one who supervises Toyotarou and thus is in a position to approve or reject his ideas for the story's direction. Toriyama has made it clear in more than a few interviews now that he wants to let Toyotaro make his own shit. T...

It’s laughable to blame Toriyama for this when he basically shat out Broly and Superhero like they were nothing.

Toriyama is leaps and bounds beyond this level of writing even when he’s just fucking around.

I remember the start of this when my biggest problem was characters could just wish themselves stronger. Movie stuff: Even the new movie shits on the idea that you can do that. Specific spoiler: Piccolo doesn't just wish himself stronger. He specifically wishes his potential unlocked. Because being ...

A friend and I talked a bit about this chapter. He was really down on Vegeta losing here. Stuff I said: Ultra Ego is exactly as stupid as ultra instinct though, as far as writing goes. If you write ultra instinct, you’re writing a boring fight where all the attacks get dodged until he wins. If you w...

Another month, another chapter of pointless repetitive fighting with no plot progression. Another month, another chapter ending with the antagonists revealing they were holding back/powering up on the final page, insisting that now they're gonna get serious. God I hope after all this mystery, Elec i...

Seekeroftruth wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 4:52 amExactly. No where in this chapter did UI show any of its defensive or automatic properties.

I would suggest you reread the Jiren fight. Jiren was able to land hits on Ultra Instinct. He was also able to match its attacks until it wore off and he claimed the advantage.

It's not an auto-win.

A lot of complaining from people who will continue to read and discuss the manga for years to come lol. What a dumb argument and a pointless thing to post. This adds nothing to the discussion and is needlessly dismissive. People post critiques because they care about the story and would like to see...

It’s morbidly hilarious that Toyotaro took a story that was built on Nurture beating Nature and turned it into Nature beating Nurture. Everything Goku is now is owed to Bardock, a character we the audience have no reason to care about other than the fact that he is Goku’s father. Goku’s father who w...

Took a long time to get there, and I can't say I enjoyed the journey to getting there, but at least we're finally there . I know I and at least Mr Baggins correctly identified the theme like 8 months ago, so it's insane that after all this meandering he's finally decided it's time to confirm it. The...

I'm not sure I feel much has changed except its efficiency. I think even in works considered to be without merit, if you look hard enough and isolate things from wider context, you can find things that are well-crafted. Indeed, I can remember at least 2 chapters in this arc that I thought were good...