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Now that Jiren is finally using 2% of his power we may find out just how far above the GoD level he is.

Yeah, that was overstimating/overhyping character exactly means... I mean there is no way for character to use aura/flare and expelling a least a bit of trouble to be less then 5%. For me it is ...

Well If we take everything which was said about gotenks's Strength literally then we could get post rosat ssj gotenks curmbstomping completly ssj3 goku and post rosat base gotenks > pre rosat ssj gotenks. The problem with that is following events/feats have been keeping contradicting previous ...

Ok, after I watched current episode in which once again potara fusion along with stacked not divine forms over it could manage to threat ui goku(even if massively weakened) I believe Current ssb vegito is only below Zeno, his guardians and grand priest.

Current ssb vegito(post ui goku) >=Current ...

well, taking in consideration that goku would be very tired and drained, I have ssj2 Kefla above current 100% ssg goku, well possibly ss Kefla would be close too.

Here is my list of characters by relative power scaling:

[spoiler]Dragon Ball Super tier list (upto ep 115)

Creation tier
Zarama
Zeno = Future Zeno

Beyond angel tier
Grand Preist
Super Shenron
Zeno's attendents

Angel tier

All angels

GoD tier 1

Current ssb vegetto
Gin
Beerus
Quitela
Black arc ...

Taking in cosideration the latest and generally most of episodes from tournament arc we have seen some cases where skills beats raw power or at least skills or hax technique being match changer like you could win with bigger skills. I have rewatched Hit vs goku battle from u6 last time, and now ...

Base Kefla ~ current ss2 goku/vegeta
Ss Kefla ~ current ssg goku
Ss2 Kefla ~ current ssg goku
Ss3 Kefla ~ current ssb goku
Ss berserker < kkx20 ssb goku


You were wrong. Base Kefla turned out to be > SSJG Goku. and SSJ Kefla > SSJB x 20 KaioKen Goku

Yes, but I still believe next episode goku go ...

Even with SSB/KKx20, Goku is barely able to stalemate Jiren's GLARE, and he was explicitly stated to not be full power. Even if you were to use the bare minimum precedent, that'd make Jiren 400 times stronger than SSB/KKx20 Goku, minimum 8000 times stronger than SSB-level fighters. And that's the ...

Facts from the anime about ssg goku and vegito(potara):
1. Ssg god goku > ssj vegito(possibly not 100% as he has never used fp against buuhan)
2. Beerus > Vegito , beerus > ssg goku

Fan assumptions:
1. Goku was comparing Vegito with heavily supressed beerus.
2. Goku was considering ss2 or even ss3 ...

Ok guys, here comes my headcannon of dbs:
1. Everything estabilished in show is rule until it's overwritten, then new stuff replaces old one.
2. In bog goku was only talking about ssj vegito (yes he wasnt taking ss2 or even ss3 in consideration).
3. In bog goku was comparing ss vegitto to estimated ...

Base Kefla ~ current ss2 goku/vegeta
Ss Kefla ~ current ssg goku
Ss2 Kefla ~ current ssg goku
Ss3 Kefla ~ current ssb goku
Ss berserker < kkx20 ssb goku

How would guys handle the Goku vs Kafla fight and the power difference between them?

If it were me, I'd have base Kalfa murk SSJ2 Goku. Goku then goes blue and overpower her again. Kalfa goes SS2 in response and the two fight evenly. She then goes Berserker or SSJ3(we all know it's going to happen ...

This is hard to say with inconsistent power scaling in dbs, but this is how I see it:

Base Cafla ~ ssj2 goku
SSJ Cafla - ssj3 goku < ssg goku
SSJ2 Cafla - ssg goku
SSJ3 Cafla - kkx2(3) ssb goku
SS BERSERKER Cafla - kkx20 ssb goku

in Compare Current Vegetto would be(goku before UI)
Base Vegetto ...

I honestly laugh at those who downplay Piccolo down to Buu saga SSJ2, or even worse, Cell saga SSJ2. There is no basis for this, and if one pays close attention to statements and feats, while taking the time to actual power scale, anything weaker than SSJ Vegetto (Buu saga) is almost unfathomable ...

GodKaio-Ken wrote:Skill is something that can bridge the gap in power if its close enough. If the gap is too big the bridge wont extend all the way across.

the problem in dbs as they can not make up their mind. See Roshi vs Frost and gap between then(even if Frost holding back heavily)

Who is the weakest character in Super that can beat SSj Vegito (Buu saga)?

Too be honest due to Gohan powerscaling before TOP, and him being mentioned to only reach Ultimate form buu arc power before sparring with goku I believe SSJ Vegito (Buu saga) at full power would be between current ssj3 ...

Maybe a little but Super is suffering from not making up fully it's mind/direction in which it wants go. I mean They are switching and jumping between skills matters more and power matter more. While it let series stay in safe area and make both fans of pure power and skills happy, it proves that it ...

A hypothetical enraged SSJ3 Vegetto might give Beerus a strong impression of ningen. I'm not sure if it would suffice in sating his desire for a good challenge though. Beerus has been retroactively pedestaled so high above everyone else in Universe 7 that not even a Kaioken x20/blue combination ...

Yeah I was thinking about it even when the movie came, although everyone was about ssg or godly base being so strong. However with later dbs retelling of bog and rof and current arcs I believe yes he could I could have dbs ss3 vegetto around at least 52% of ssg goku from bog.

I say he was stronger than Mystic. I watched a collaboration video Herms did with GeeklistTV, and he stated that Gohan was saying "Zekkouchou" and Herms translated it as Gohan's "Peak Condition", and he said that Gohan was talking about before he got shot by Tagoma. But then Gohan ate a Senzu bean ...