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by dragonball0900
Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:10 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35593
Views: 1912915

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Chi Chi should definitely be far above 21st Budokai tier. Roshi complimented her, and she trained with Ox King, who was Roshi's second best student. Plus Goku beat King Chappa far easier than Chi Chi.

I would say Chi Chi is stronger than Tsuru but weaker than Roshi. Just like her 130 figure.
by dragonball0900
Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:45 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35593
Views: 1912915

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

1. Ssj1 Gohan ( Buu arc) vs Ssj1 Goku (Cell games) 2. Krillin (End of Freeza arc) vs Transformed Zarbon and Dodoria 3. Piccolo (post Nail fusion) vs Lord Slug (both fighting in the giant namek form) 1. I have SSJ Gohan from the Buu Saga slightly stronger than SSJ Goku from the Cell Games. However, ...
by dragonball0900
Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:02 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35593
Views: 1912915

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

1. Ssj1 Gohan ( Buu arc) vs Ssj1 Goku (Cell games) 2. Krillin (End of Freeza arc) vs Transformed Zarbon and Dodoria 3. Piccolo (post Nail fusion) vs Lord Slug (both fighting in the giant namek form) 1. I have SSJ Gohan from the Buu Saga slightly stronger than SSJ Goku from the Cell Games. However, ...
by dragonball0900
Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:26 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33653
Views: 2085840

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I've been wondering about this: How strong are Current MSSB Goku and Current Omen Goku compared to the ToP? We should remember how Gohan, who was equal to Kefla and not that far below Goku, got considerably stronger to the point that Goku could not recognize him or Piccolo, yet that same Gohan was ...
by dragonball0900
Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:46 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33653
Views: 2085840

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I've been wondering about this: How strong are Current MSSB Goku and Current Omen Goku compared to the ToP? We should remember how Gohan, who was equal to Kefla and not that far below Goku, got considerably stronger to the point that Goku could not recognize him or Piccolo, yet that same Gohan was f...
by dragonball0900
Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:50 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33653
Views: 2085840

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Gohan is not repeatedly said to be the 3rd strongest though, that's only alluded to once at the ToP. Piccolo later calls him the strongest fighter left on Earth but that has no bearing on Goku and Vegeta's abscence, it's about who is available to defend Earth from Moro. 17 has a couple feats defend...
by dragonball0900
Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33653
Views: 2085840

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Strongest DBZ characters that these versions of Piccolo can defeat? - U6 Tournament arc - Universal Conflict arc - Early Moro arc - Late Moro arc U6 Tournament Arc: Probably above Cell. He's not reaching Majin Buu though, given that Goku had more confidence for Buu for the tournament. ToP Arc: I wo...
by dragonball0900
Fri Dec 25, 2020 6:43 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33653
Views: 2085840

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So, what's the power chain between PSSJB Goku/Vegeta, Gohan and #17 before the 2 months of training? The ToP was already pretty confusing about it: Vados says Kefla "might be unmatched in the battlefield" when the girls fuse, but when Gohan fights Kefla Kuririn says that he might surpass Goku if he...
by dragonball0900
Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35593
Views: 1912915

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

How far would the Namekian Savior from the Galactic Patrol Prisoner arc get in the original DBZ manga? Who is the strongest pre-Super character he could beat? Given that the namekians had already went through huge trouble with Frieza earlier on, I'm pretty sure the Namekian Savior is already far st...
by dragonball0900
Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:17 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35593
Views: 1912915

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Small point here: I don't think that should be indicative of the partner's strength, considering Gohan had little difficulty dealing with 73 with Piccolo's power. Shimorekka later on also claims Gohan is the strongest. Just want to point out though, that Gohan dominated 73 with Piccolo's power befo...
by dragonball0900
Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:52 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35593
Views: 1912915

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Anyone else I think they solo that list. #17 and Gohan were Blue tier, and #18 and Piccolo seemed to catch up given the in sync fighting style with their respective partners. Small point here: I don't think that should be indicative of the partner's strength, considering Gohan had little difficulty...
by dragonball0900
Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:35 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35593
Views: 1912915

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Goku > Vegeta > Gohan > 17 > Piccolo > Buu > 18 > Trunks >=Goten > Humans Is this the chain for the ToP Arc or the Moro Arc? Because in the Moro Arc from the manga, Piccolo is clearly above 17 and behind Gohan. Anime 17 had great feats in ToP against SSB tier characters, Could Piccolo do that witho...
by dragonball0900
Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:56 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35593
Views: 1912915

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

GatoF wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:47 pm
Goku > Vegeta > Gohan > 17 > Piccolo > Buu > 18 > Trunks >=Goten > Humans
Is this the chain for the ToP Arc or the Moro Arc? Because in the Moro Arc from the manga, Piccolo is clearly above 17 and behind Gohan.
by dragonball0900
Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35593
Views: 1912915

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

I think Piccolo might be stronger than 17 and 18 right now, but some people have a hard time seeing him stronger than Majin Boo or Cell, I guess. Current Piccolo should definitely be stronger than Current 17 and 18, given his far better feats against Saganbo and Moro and how barely recognizable he ...
by dragonball0900
Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35593
Views: 1912915

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

I think Piccolo might be stronger than 17 and 18 right now, but some people have a hard time seeing him stronger than Majin Boo or Cell, I guess. Current Piccolo should definitely be stronger than Current 17 and 18, given his far better feats against Saganbo and Moro and how barely recognizable he ...
by dragonball0900
Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35593
Views: 1912915

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Saganbo vs ToP SSBE Vegeta Who takes this? We need to take into account that ToP Ultimate Gohan was not that far below ToP MSSB given his battle with LSSJ Kefla. Then we see Moro Saga Gohan who, even with Piccolo and the androids' help, couldn't even budge Saganbo, who easily clowned them all. Then ...
by dragonball0900
Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:36 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33653
Views: 2085840

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

How high would you guys rank all the Z-Warriors (Gohan, Piccolo, 17, 18, Krillin, Yamcha, Tenshinhan, Chaotzu, Roshi) from the Moro arc? 1. Gohan is the strongest. He is far superior to the strength he had at the ToP, and at that time he was already close to ToP Blue level. 2. Piccolo is the second...
by dragonball0900
Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:44 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35593
Views: 1912915

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

I thought it was clearly implied and said during the tournament that Goku was improving his strength every time, even without Omen. Even Vegeta said that all saiyans had surpassed their limits throughout the tournament, with one of the flashbacks showing us Ultimate Gohan (which means he got stronge...
by dragonball0900
Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:03 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: When all is said and done, who was stronger: Super Perfect Cell or SSJ2 Gohan?
Replies: 84
Views: 1695

Re: When all is said and done, who was stronger: Super Perfect Cell or SSJ2 Gohan?

Gohan defeats Cell easily.

He was used as a measure stick by the time of the Buu Saga. Cell was only compared to Dabura.

Based on that, Gohan was always intended to be much stronger than Cell at his max.
by dragonball0900
Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:58 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35593
Views: 1912915

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

I believe training with someone far stronger than himself gives Piccolo crazy gains. Back then, when training with SSJ Goku for 3 years for the arrival of the androids, Piccolo went from way weaker than Base Goku to close to SSJ Goku. After the Cell Games, Piccolo only trained by himself or just me...