Kanzenshuu

Not that I'm a regular on this board, but I put next to no stock into anything SeththeProgrammer says/does/claims. Super Saiyan 3 was introduced & discarded too quickly with no real fleshing out. Goku had only done the transformation a couple times before his encounter with Majin Buu and he had ...

As powerful as the next villain (read: plot) required it to be in order to confront the next major villain on equal terms.

I enjoy many of the same aspects you (read: OP) do about the Cell, and Majin Buu arcs... I've always felt that the relatively short Android arc was the least interesting.

However as I've gotten older, talked with fellow fans over the internet, and put no small amount of critical thinking into the ...

Supposedly there's some piece of technology that's limiting/equalizing everyone's powers in the FighterZ storyline... That's the in-game justification to why people like Krillin can fight SSB Goku and Vegeta.

We have no idea though. For how ridiculous Android #17 is in Super and all the hax that ...

Huh?

Gohan went from "I can barely turn Super Saiyan" to at the very least equal to his old Buu Arc power levels... Just with some offscreen training with someone who's significantly less powerful than himself. He has no right to be anywhere near as powerful as Vegeta & Goku nor should he.

Besides ...

Probably been done many times already buuuut...

Rage Trunks (DBS)

Vs.

Ultimate Gohan (ToP Era)

I think we've (unfortunately) seen Vegito for the last time in the canonical series. They've devalued fusion to the point that it just doesn't serve a purpose anymore. If SSjB Vegito runs out if gas in less than five minutes against Merged Zamasu.... What is he supposed to do at even higher levels ...

When I saw this shot in the NEP, my first impression was that it was (visually speaking) an upgraded SSjB, with some aesthetic changes barrowed from the old SSj Grade 2 that was used back in the Cell Saga. Vegeta's hair seems to be spikier but not as sharply defined as SSj2 typically it, while his ...

I don't know what I'm more excited to see... Jiren looking like a beast, Vegeta, or that beautiful Final Flash from the NEP.

1. Janemba vs Kid Buu - Lots of incoherent screaming, crazy powers, and all sorts of brutal. This would be one for the ages.

2. Piccolo vs Vegeta - This should have been a thing a long time ago.

3. Super Perfect Cell vs Dabura - They seem like they would team in mutual admiration of each ...

I really don't see how there is this much back & forth on this subject. All we know is that -by rumor- Belmond cannot defeat Jiren in combat. We also get Whis' brief observation on Jirens power during the battle with Goku. Whis is obviously one of the more reliable narrators, but all he says is ...

I really don't see how there is this much back & forth on this subject. All we know is that -by rumor- Belmond cannot defeat Jiren in combat. We also get Whis' brief observation on Jirens power during the battle with Goku. Whis is obviously one of the more reliable narrators, but all he says is that ...

The original funimation dub where Vegeta admits to Goku will never be able to catch him:

https://youtu.be/lG5wFW9H-X0

27:00 - 28:30 or so.

Though, if I'm honest Vegeta's final atonement against Majin Buu is my favorite part of the entire franchise.

I think you're all getting way ahead of yourselves with all of this. Super has had its ups & downs, but it's not going anywhere.

My money would be on Jiren to dominate Bills. All signs point to that being the case. The only thing Bills has is Hakai, but knowing how Jiren is written, he can probably tank that.
It's 2018, we're still calling Beerus "Bills"?

Anyway, we have no idea how strong Jiren is compared to Beerus. Only ...

3. Fusion Zamasu : Before the Future Trunks arc took a steep nosedive in the last two episodes, Fusion Zamasu was awesome. Cool attacks, a total maniac, and completely stomped the protagonists.

2. Kioken : Every scene Goku uses Kioken is awesome, I'm glad they brought it back. The technique's re ...

Allow me to re-phrase. Jiren has all of two personality traits. His arrogant and belittling. That's it. That's all there is to his character and I don't see how those two traits are particularly unique since literally every other major villain in the history of Dragonball also has these traits and ...

Assuming he doesn't de-fuse instantly?
Assuming the series sticks to its own internal logic instead of ignore it for the sake of spectacle or plot?

Considering his raw power and actual fighting abilities, SSj-SSj3 Vegito would outclass everyone in the ToP except Anilaza, Hit, and probably Dyspo ...

I haven't read the chapter after a translation, but it really just looks like Goku is earnestly defending himself from #17. He doesn't fight back, he doesn't get "overpowered", more that as he powers up he seems more and more surprised that #17 us keeping up with him. Then he ends the fight before ...

I was never a Trunks fan. I've always thought that while he was portrayed to be the time time traveling cool guy with the sword.. He really just was a plot device who accomplished next to nothing besides delivering the cure for the heart virus. He accomplished nothing against the Androids or Cell in ...