Kanzenshuu

In the original DBZ, we know there are four timelines: Cell's, Future Trunks, Unseen and Main timelines. In DBS, we know two new timelines were created with Future Trunk's timeline erased: New Main Present and (New) Future Trunks timelines (Two Trunks and Mai's lives in this timeline).

My only ...

Well, this was an interesting and particular taste of a chapter.

So we end off with Merus telling Goku he is going to be using his full power and add to the fact he knows about Ultra Instinct. This raises more question about who the hell is Merus, and how does he know about U.I? I didn't think he ...

He beat them both and blasted both off the arena at the same time. The only reason they were saved was because of the fusion.
The bold confuses me. I've seen many users say Goku beat them both, but the episode has shown only (SS2) Caulifa being beaten due to their being power gap between her and ...

Evening everybody. Does anyone still play Xenoverse 2 for PS4? I'm looking for new friends to play with especially since DLC 7 is coming out.

Not in the anime. In the SSB Goku vs Kale bout there were 3 indications he was suppressed.

1. After the battle he has no battle damage and doesn't seem worried at all.
2. Jiren one shots her but Goku isn't intimidated at all and challenges Jiren immediately afterwards.(Implying he could have ...

While I see where you are coming from, what is the reason she couldn't beat a tired SSG Goku later?
Despite Kale holding her own and even able to trade blow for blow with SSG Goku, it should be noted that the Goku that Kale faced then after unlocking UI isn't the same Goku that fought (Berserker ...

Miracles wrote:Kale was established as Blue tier in both anime and manga.

Agreed.

The fact that Goku felt the need to transform and use SSB's power instead of SSG and/or SSj3 says otherwise she could hang in the Blue Tier.

When Whis made the statement confirming about Jiren is the one who reached the state of God Of Destruction, he was referring to him surpassing Belmod and him only. We still have no idea about the rest of the God Of Destruction would fair/stack against MUI Goku.

I'm just giving where credit is due when I see it. See, that is where I am getting at. We do not know how much more effort/difficulty or energy whatever is required Goku would need in order to beat Kale during those moments. Or at the very least could he have defeated her in the same manner as ...

I don’t buy they were even, Goku seemed the most calm among them, despite being in disadvantage. He comfortably put them in the position he wanted. If Kale’s power could compete with Super Saiyan God’s, she failed to pass me an impression. So, a straight fight with different rules is pure ...

No I don't realize that because that's not what happened. His ki blast cut through hers and she struggled to deflect it. Goku tanked hers. She didn't stop his kamehameha either. The only time they were presented to be close was when they were throwing hands, but that's it.
Well, that's what went ...

So, everyone literally commenting on how Goku was in a completely different class to the universe 6 Saiyans, and being able to defend against base form Kefla, which was described as having power far greater than that when they were two people.

Not to mention Goku's attacks against Kale were sure ...

No, that's not what I meant. No, she would not have lost if it wasn't for her morality issues. My point is that she never "lost" to Goku in a straight up fight as shown she could still keep on fighting but her fighting spirit was certainly starting to dwindle after Caulifa looked as if she was at ...

Kale was never shown "losing" to a tired SSG Goku, that's just absurd.


He tanked her blast with no damage.


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Goku's ki blasts went right through hers and Cauliflas at the same time.

https://j.gifs.com/E9ZKYN.gif

And flat out rung her out

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Literally nobody as taken real damage in this arc. Kale walked through a SSB kamehameha, people were saying she was above Blue level because of that, and I said no wait until more comes out Goku was probably holding back, and low and behold she ended up losing to a tired SSG Goku . It's not ...

In regards to Viz translation chapter 30, shouldn't these two lines be switched?
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Belmond's character really shines in this chapter, in my opinion. I prefer his characterization in manga over in the anime.

I guess Maricarita's unique talking style doesn't exist in ...

Going by the latest scans

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U4's last unknown fighter is another cicada man named Gamisarasu. So thats all the fighters out in the open now.
Well, I can't say I didn't see that coming. I ...

So as we know universes 5,8,1, and 12 are all currently out of the tournament because they are the top 4 in the rankings, given some time they may come back in a future arc, any thoughts?


It's definitely likely, and I'm really curious about seeing Universe 12. We know it has an incredible GoD ...

So is it the quantity of life or is it power level, or is it still vague?