The way I've always thought about it is that there are only 28 planets left remaining that are true homeworlds to mortal races, similar to Earth or Salad for the Humans and Saiyans, respectively.
So while there might be a lot of different aliens, only true sapient beings that count for Heaven and ...
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- Sun Apr 19, 2026 1:38 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Making sense of The "28 Planets"
- Replies: 5
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- Sun Apr 19, 2026 12:46 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 40444
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
With regards to Goku Black getting stronger, I've always taken it that having Zamasu's soul in Goku's body essentially "reset" his potential, even if he started off with Zamasu's level of Ki control to begin with, due to basically becoming an entirely new being.
Goku's body may have reached its ...
Goku's body may have reached its ...
- Mon Mar 16, 2026 9:29 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 40444
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Though a big point from the original movie was the fact that Goku wasn't satisfied with having Super Saiyan God be something he didn't reach himself, hence him ultimately making the power his own despite losing the form.
Pretty sure it's stated Goku absorbed Super Saiyan God's power thanks to ...
- Mon Mar 16, 2026 8:33 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 40444
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
I've heard rumours that Goku won't lose Super Saiyan God by the end of the fight when he loses, but I've only heard this secondhand.
Though a big point from the original movie was the fact that Goku wasn't satisfied with having Super Saiyan God be something he didn't reach himself, hence him ...
Though a big point from the original movie was the fact that Goku wasn't satisfied with having Super Saiyan God be something he didn't reach himself, hence him ...
- Wed Mar 11, 2026 8:05 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 40444
- Views: 6021613
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
I think we need to distinguish between "being stronger than Beerus" against "being able to beat him in a full fight".
I also think there's a point to be made that all these opponents that have reached this level of strength aren't necessarily leaps and bounds stronger than one another.
I also think there's a point to be made that all these opponents that have reached this level of strength aren't necessarily leaps and bounds stronger than one another.
- Fri Feb 27, 2026 1:19 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 40444
- Views: 6021613
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
The big things that puts stopgaps into the "Fusions were always stronger than current god forms" are basic ideas: Goku and Vegeta are simply far stronger and have access to greater potential power now than they did before.
Unless you think all this power they've gained in their base forms and ...
Unless you think all this power they've gained in their base forms and ...
- Tue Nov 25, 2025 12:49 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Goku's Power-level as a toddler
- Replies: 28
- Views: 43072
Re: Goku's Power-level as a toddler
Goku could be strong physically without ki being a factor.
I feel like there must still exist differences in relative strengths between different species and races and so on, that doesn't exclusively come down to ki.
A human with equal ki amount to a rhinoceros is not going to be as strong, I ...
- Fri Nov 14, 2025 10:42 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Goku's Power-level as a toddler
- Replies: 28
- Views: 43072
Re: Goku's Power-level as a toddler
It could be a case where scouter-defined power levels aren't as relevant at such low levels compared to one's biology.
So as a Saiyan, Goku would've been far stronger through his natural physiology even if his Ki wasn't as high yet.
So as a Saiyan, Goku would've been far stronger through his natural physiology even if his Ki wasn't as high yet.
- Fri Oct 31, 2025 7:04 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: DragonBall Z Abridged
- Replies: 12553
- Views: 2848476
Re: DragonBall Z Abridged
Gotta love how Guldo immediately went for the dog biscuits when he got the chance to haunt Vegeta.
- Thu Sep 11, 2025 3:22 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Vegeta calling Goku the number 1
- Replies: 14
- Views: 18622
Re: Vegeta calling Goku the number 1
It's not about raw power. Gaku was number one at that moment because he had the right mindset. This, in turn, led to his great strength.
Also, I don't think this means Vegeta would never try to match Goku again. Quite the opposite. Goku may have been number one at that moment, but by continuing ...
- Thu Sep 04, 2025 8:26 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: All of Freeza's reasons for blowing up Planet Vegeta
- Replies: 9
- Views: 27431
Re: All of Freeza's reasons for blowing up Planet Vegeta
I've always taken it as a bit of a mix of all of the above, with Freeza himself ultimately making the call from his own experiences and judgment.
You could view it as Freeza hearing about the Super Saiyan legend and not putting much stock into it at first, but then sees that the Saiyans under his ...
You could view it as Freeza hearing about the Super Saiyan legend and not putting much stock into it at first, but then sees that the Saiyans under his ...
- Thu Sep 04, 2025 8:19 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Why doesn't Beerus know who Boo is?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 13434
Re: Why doesn't Beerus know who Boo is?
I've always taken it as an issue he's never concerned himself with since it happened in the past, and enough Kaioshin survived that he wouldn't have to worry.
But Goku actively threatening Shin in the present? That's a different matter.
But Goku actively threatening Shin in the present? That's a different matter.
- Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:35 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Blowing up planets
- Replies: 7
- Views: 20640
Re: Blowing up planets
Not that many characters have blown up a planet on-screen.
But many have been able to threaten it, with no indication they were exaggerating or overestimating themselves.
Vegeta all the way back in the Saiyan Arc was going to blow up Earth; Vegeta, Goku, AND Cell had all been threatening to ...
But many have been able to threaten it, with no indication they were exaggerating or overestimating themselves.
Vegeta all the way back in the Saiyan Arc was going to blow up Earth; Vegeta, Goku, AND Cell had all been threatening to ...
- Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:13 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Can Bulma make better Androids than Dr. Gero?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 23532
Re: Can Bulma make better Androids than Dr. Gero?
As others have said and will say, it's mainly a matter of skillsets and experience.
Bulma simply isn't as experienced in hyper advanced robotics the way Dr. Gero and Dr. Hedo were.
Bulma simply isn't as experienced in hyper advanced robotics the way Dr. Gero and Dr. Hedo were.
- Fri Feb 28, 2025 2:01 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Daima
- Topic: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 20 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 341
- Views: 210758
Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 20 - Official Discussion Thread
Just a whole lotta fight spectacle and awesomeness at the beginning!
SS4 Goku really pulled out all the stops, even making a goddamn hole through all the Demon Worlds. And the fact that he's been hiding this power all this time? The Third Eye was seriously something special to stand up to all that ...
SS4 Goku really pulled out all the stops, even making a goddamn hole through all the Demon Worlds. And the fact that he's been hiding this power all this time? The Third Eye was seriously something special to stand up to all that ...
- Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:10 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Daima
- Topic: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 19 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 294
- Views: 179413
Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 19 - Official Discussion Thread
Fun return to their adult forms!
I do wonder exactly how much stronger they'd be considered now from when they were turned into kids. Seems like a decent boost, but also not hugely above what they were at during most of the series.
Also interesting to note how the Third Eye has made Gomah into a ...
I do wonder exactly how much stronger they'd be considered now from when they were turned into kids. Seems like a decent boost, but also not hugely above what they were at during most of the series.
Also interesting to note how the Third Eye has made Gomah into a ...
- Fri Feb 14, 2025 2:17 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Daima
- Topic: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 18 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 475
- Views: 214437
Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 18 - Official Discussion Thread
Whole lotta hype with this one!
Kuu and Duu continue to be the best new dynamic duo of Daima! Duu and Goku sharing long spiky hair and incredible power is both badass AND hilarious, and Tamagami #1 really held out compared to everyone else aside from those 2.
But the Third Eye is pretty damn OP ...
Kuu and Duu continue to be the best new dynamic duo of Daima! Duu and Goku sharing long spiky hair and incredible power is both badass AND hilarious, and Tamagami #1 really held out compared to everyone else aside from those 2.
But the Third Eye is pretty damn OP ...
- Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:52 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Daima
- Topic: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 17 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 158
- Views: 108500
Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 17 - Official Discussion Thread
Pretty fun overall.
Goku definitely seemed to be better at handling Majin Duu's whole shenanigans than Tamagami #1 was, probably due to his more free-spirited fighting style and experience dealing with Majin Buu.
And it seems Dr. Arinsu has pretty lofty goals to turn the Demon Realm into a force ...
Goku definitely seemed to be better at handling Majin Duu's whole shenanigans than Tamagami #1 was, probably due to his more free-spirited fighting style and experience dealing with Majin Buu.
And it seems Dr. Arinsu has pretty lofty goals to turn the Demon Realm into a force ...
- Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:07 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Daima
- Topic: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 16 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 93
- Views: 29064
Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 16 - Official Discussion Thread
I guess she was just a random Demon girl in the end, though I do like this consistent theme of Demons almost all being money-grubbing and greedy in some form or another, even up to the Supreme Demon King himself.
Though I do wonder if the resemblance to the Pride Troopers uniform was intentional or ...
Though I do wonder if the resemblance to the Pride Troopers uniform was intentional or ...
- Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:57 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 40444
- Views: 6021613
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
To be fair, Degesu was off-guard and got chopped in the throat.
That's bound to hurt like hell to anyone.
That's bound to hurt like hell to anyone.