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by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:04 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread
Replies: 1181
Views: 73131

Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

Gotta mirror others here.

Shida just made the fight so VISCERAL and fluid. I also really liked Piccolo and 17's moment against Kamioren.
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:25 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: A state higher than Ultra Instinct?
Replies: 26
Views: 924

Re: A state higher than Ultra Instinct?

I think a better way to do it would be to have Ultra Instinct always become stronger than Goku's current strongest form. Basically, have Ultra Instinct be the ultimate limit-break that gets stronger as Goku gets stronger. It's already above the level of God of Destruction on top of Goku's normal bas...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:23 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29718
Views: 1345435

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

More or less. It is definitely consistent now, but in BoG the SSG transformation was deemed superior to fusion. I honestly don't mind to fusion being really powerful, but equal to superior to Blue in just Base seems... excessive, I guess, to me. But it really doesn't matter. To be fair, Fusions onl...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29718
Views: 1345435

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Wouldnt Broly be considerably weaker than Blue for Freeza to try and make him go Super Saiyan? Also do we ever got confirmation that Ikari and Super Saiyan staked? I don't think he was really any weaker. SSB Goku was just doing a lot better, enough so that Ikari Broly probably was gonna lose at the...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29718
Views: 1345435

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Overall, I think that Gogeta is meant to match Broly in all forms in terms of raw power until they both into their highest form; base Gogeta is equal to Ikari Broly, and SS Gogeta is equal to Ikari SS Broly. Once they do, SSB Gogeta has SS Full-Power Broly entirely outmatched. Makes sense, really. B...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: A state higher than Ultra Instinct?
Replies: 26
Views: 924

Re: A state higher than Ultra Instinct?

I'm personally hoping that any potential new forms are derived from necessitating abilities rather than strength. For example, maybe variations on Ultra Instinct that rely on combining it with different techniques, such as Ultra Instinct and Instantaneous Movement into a UI form based around substit...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:33 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29718
Views: 1345435

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

While it's SDBH and always weird, Golden Metal Cooler seemed to pretty definitively be stronger than SS3 Cumber in the latest episode, albeit at the cost of overheating pretty easily.

Anyone have anything from the manga or games to contextualize this?
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:24 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29718
Views: 1345435

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

SupremeKai25 wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:44 pm
So where would everyone put the anime verison of Infinite Zamasu? The one that merged with the very fabric of the cosmos?
Power level? Strong as Corrupt Merged Zamasu. Strong, but not the strongest. The hax is what keeps him from being defeated conventionally.
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:05 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Are Super Saiyan Berserk and Super Saiyan Full Power the same form?
Replies: 13
Views: 780

Re: Are Super Saiyan Berserk and Super Saiyan Full Power the same form?

My take has always been that the forms are indeed fundamentally the same, but because of the differences between Universe 6 and 7 Saiyans, they manifest differently. With Kale, she couldn't tap into her latent Oozaru potential in her base form like Broly did, so when she raged out, she instead raged...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:10 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29718
Views: 1345435

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The way I see it, 17 and Gohan seem to be in a similar level of power to Ikari Broly before he powered up further to fight Goku, the one that was stronger than SSG Vegeta.

Still fodder to SSB, but definitely solidly at a massively high power level compared to anything before god power came up.
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Thu May 30, 2019 7:36 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: If Ki Increases In Density As Fighters Continue To Train & Grow...
Replies: 6
Views: 221

Re: If Ki Increases In Density As Fighters Continue To Train & Grow...

It all comes down to the very nature of Ki itself. It's an expression of the body, soul, and mind into a supernatural and tangible form for use. The most common users of Ki are martial artists, and thus Ki reflects how they use it. Rather than to destroy and whatnot, Ki is used most often for augmen...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sun May 26, 2019 12:18 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Return of Brutal fights in dragon ball super 2
Replies: 16
Views: 839

Re: Return of Brutal fights in dragon ball super 2

The manga has had some gruesome moments in the recent Moro arc. As for the anime, I think Japan's censorship rules have become a little stricter in recent years, right? Pretty much. Even things like severed limbs and laser holes through bodies is pushing it for a show like DBS in the kind of time s...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Wed May 22, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29718
Views: 1345435

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

No one denies that the likes of Beerus, Quitela, and Belmod are the strongest among their class. However, what CAN be contested is just how much that difference ultimately is. Some folks believe that they are many times superior, whilst I and other folks believe that the difference is negligible in ...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Wed May 22, 2019 8:23 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29718
Views: 1345435

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Overall, I think it's just safer to put all the Gods of Destruction in the same general range of power, with the differences between them not being significant enough to definitively say who's the strongest beyond a drawn-out 1v1. The level is treated as a general tier to compare to in all mediums, ...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Mon May 20, 2019 3:19 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: When Did The "Legendary" Super Saiyan Form Become A Joke?
Replies: 21
Views: 559

Re: When Did The "Legendary" Super Saiyan Form Become A Joke?

I think super saiyan became a "joke" mainly in Boo arc, first because of how easily Goten and Trunks could do it and then how quickly super saiyan 2 was surpassed, by both Boo and the super saiyan 3 form. In the Artificial Humans arc, despite the nonsense of technology surpassing a legendary transf...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sat May 18, 2019 8:48 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29718
Views: 1345435

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

About the scaling Toriyama provided. I personally view it as a ×10 for each level. That would mean Beerus is 10,000 times stronger than SSGod and that Whis is 100,000 times stronger than Beerus. Don’t you think that’s a little bloated? Not only SSGod would seem an ant in comparison to Beerus, but B...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Fri May 17, 2019 3:00 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29718
Views: 1345435

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

There's also the fact that only SSB Fusions are implied to truly rival Gods of Destruction in raw power.

And with said Fusions having base forms equal to their fusees' god forms, it really plays up just how bloated things have become.
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Wed May 15, 2019 7:26 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Am I The Only DB Fan Who Likes Jiren?
Replies: 43
Views: 1581

Re: Am I The Only DB Fan Who Likes Jiren?

Another thing about anime Jiren I preferred is the core conflict. While the general conceit is still the same, namely that Jiren doesn't trust other people to pick up where strength fails, I felt it was a better executed character development than in the manga. In the manga, it's this "wishing to ap...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Tue May 14, 2019 6:38 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Am I The Only DB Fan Who Likes Jiren?
Replies: 43
Views: 1581

Re: Am I The Only DB Fan Who Likes Jiren?

I liked Jiren in his debut chapter in the manga. He showed a strong sense of justice to save the ppl before his talk with Toppo. And when he outright refused to get involved in the participation of other universe's destruction until the opportunity to get his wish. Conflict in one's beliefs always ...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Tue May 14, 2019 5:03 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Am I The Only DB Fan Who Likes Jiren?
Replies: 43
Views: 1581

Re: Am I The Only DB Fan Who Likes Jiren?

I like him.

To me, he represents a parody of the "strongest in DBZ ever!" that has come to cause stagnation in this franchise to some degree, like how the Kamikaze Fireballs are a parody of Toei's magical girl properties.