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by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sat May 30, 2020 8:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31738
Views: 1780702

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Koitsukai wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 6:50 pm
Quick question, when was stated in the manga that SSB is 10x SSG?

I always thought it happened during the Champa tournament, but I don't remember reading anything like that.
It's an extrapolation based on how SSG was superior to SSB after the latter's power was reduced below 10%.
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sat May 30, 2020 10:28 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31738
Views: 1780702

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I’ve seen a theory that tries to explain why Zamas’ body was done in by Trunks using the genkidama power-up. Basically, it works with the assumption that Vegetto’s final kamehameha “killed” Goku Black’s half, which made Zamas weak enough. What do you think? I think it was a combination of a bunch o...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Fri May 29, 2020 6:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31738
Views: 1780702

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The narrative clearly implies Jiren is the strongest ever up to that point, that's the only thing going on for him, he can't manipulate time, he is not immortal, he can't zenkai on the spot, he can't use magic, he can't even transform, he is just strong, plain and simple. He doesn't have "different...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Fri May 29, 2020 7:08 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31738
Views: 1780702

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I'm of the mindset that base Gogeta is indeed as strong as SSB Goku and Vegeta individually. He easily evades SS Broly better than Goku and Vegeta did and is deflecting huge amounts of Ki blasts with ease, even chuckling about it and being confident about turning into a Super Saiyan himself as Broly...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Mon May 25, 2020 7:21 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread
Replies: 1570
Views: 180404

Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

Episode 23: - Funny to see that Bojack has hold a grudge from the Saiyans because of his last defeat - At first I though Tullece was eating some random fruit, but it was from the Tree of Might? How it could be any useful to him than Fu just simply powering him up? - Did that weird doctor just calle...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sun May 24, 2020 6:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Future Trunks, Fused Zamasu and episode 66
Replies: 84
Views: 1295

Re: Future Trunks, Fused Zamasu and episode 66

To be fair, Freeza and Frost also grew in height after bulking up AND Merged Zamasu's corrupted half was growing larger even before the rest of his body did so. Another thing to keep in mind that Merged Zamasu left himself open many times as noted by SSB Vegito, so Future Trunks may well have taken ...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sun May 24, 2020 2:28 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Future Trunks, Fused Zamasu and episode 66
Replies: 84
Views: 1295

Re: Future Trunks, Fused Zamasu and episode 66

I think part of it is a demonstration of the "forced power increase" that Super Saiyan Grade 3 was all about. After all, Merged Zamasu's speed decreased despite his growing power which is exactly how that useless SS form worked. SSB Vegito mocked Merged Zamasu for not being able to keep up with his ...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sun May 17, 2020 3:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Future Trunks, Fused Zamasu and episode 66
Replies: 84
Views: 1295

Re: Future Trunks, Fused Zamasu and episode 66

I always thought it was pretty obvious that Merged Zamasu's corrupted half was what grew in strength significantly while the rest of his body had to "catch up" in a sense. As another good example, after being impaled by Vegito's Ki blade and giving his tearful speech, he destroys the sword with his ...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sun May 17, 2020 3:30 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31738
Views: 1780702

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

"Goku broke his limits," Not factual. Goku just used his "full power," facts. And Saiyans have often been seen pushing their full power beyond their normal limits. Fact of the matter is, Goku was struggling with his normal limits and had to put out the full amount of power that he could into the Ka...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sat May 16, 2020 9:53 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31738
Views: 1780702

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Except Goku didn't break his limits. That was stated to be his "full power" against merged Zamas. Yet it broke his arms and he didn't use Kaioken, which logically means that he broke his normal SSB limits. "Goku broke his limits," Not factual. Goku just used his "full power," facts. And Saiyans hav...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sat May 16, 2020 5:09 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31738
Views: 1780702

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Too bad Blue Goku could of wrapped the Future Trunks arc up anytime he wanted in that second bout. Able to beam struggle and overpower a fused Zamas. :lol: As seen with Roshi later on in the Tournament of Power, put enough power into a Kamehameha and you can overwhelm even those stronger than you, ...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sat May 09, 2020 9:29 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Jiren an antagonist of the 80s
Replies: 5
Views: 565

Re: Jiren an antagonist of the 80s

I dunno, I always saw him as kind of a parody of one of the core ideas of the franchise as of late, that being that one's power level is the only metric by which they have value as a fighter and character. Jiren takes this to the extreme, being solely defined by his ludicrously immense power level a...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Tue May 05, 2020 2:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31738
Views: 1780702

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

How much stronger than his SS2 was Trunks in SSR? He managed to give Black Rose a nice fight. I was wondering if it wouldn't have been better to give him SS3, a perfected version of it that is? I mean, SSR is a mess, no one really knows how it works, if it's godly(that blue-ish glow) or not, while ...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:51 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: DragonBall Z Abridged
Replies: 11822
Views: 1019997

Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

I really liked this episode. A nice showcase of the sweet and funny romance between 18 and Krillin.

You can tell how these 2 were made for each other in this.
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:59 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31738
Views: 1780702

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

As far as Gohan vs Goku goes, I do lean more to the idea that Gohan was suppressing his Ultimate power (I use "Ultimate" because it's simple and effective at conveying the change) but putting in a lot of effort, only to really let loose once his dad gives in to his request to use more of full power....
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:19 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31738
Views: 1780702

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

SSJ Goku seemed poised to fight Kid Buu during his image training in the first chapter of Super. Goku doesn't actually finish the fight so we don't know if he'd have proceeded to transform into SS3 or not. Not to mention, I recall his expression being visibly pretty tense when he moved from Cell to...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:09 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31738
Views: 1780702

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

You know, ruminating on things a bit, I'm left wondering how Piccolo compares to Buu now. Are the 2 basically equal, is Big Green finally stronger, etc.

From the looks of things to me, I feel like the 2 of them are pretty close in power now, discounting Buu's Dai Kaioshin display.
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:59 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31738
Views: 1780702

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The strength comparison between “Ultimate” and SS2 doesn’t change what happened between Base Goku and Base Gohan. Tenshinhan stated none of them were holding back and they tacitly agree. If anything this only reinforces “Ultimate” doesn’t have fixed multiplier or level. Not that this was ever impli...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31738
Views: 1780702

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I’m talking particularly about the first portion of the fight, in which they were all leveled, with the exception of Tenshinhan. Gohan’s full powered form doesn’t have anything to do with Super Saiyan, it just reveals his true strength. As soon as he adapted to his new power Gohan rivaled SSB. I al...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:06 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31738
Views: 1780702

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So the latest SDBH episode is out. Nothing really unexpected. Beerus is stronger than the likes of SSB Goku, SSB Vegeta, and base Time Patrol Trunks with his sword without even trying. But that was obvious already. Though Krillin and Piccolo are the only ones to fall to their knees when the Universe...