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How "close" can you get to the manga when it comes to BoG and RoF honestly? Both combined are like 4 chapters long :lol:


Even the Tournament of Destroyers saga isn't that different in the manga.

Where anime and manga diverge is mostly in the last 2 arcs. I think some things from the manga are ...

What does streamline mean? Better pacing ( bye bye Pilaf Gang filler, BOG went from 10+ episodes to 6)

Will they be toned down?


That's what I was arguing. I don't think the Pilaf Gang's mere existence is filler, but they did get a lot of filler scenes in Super. One or two of the early ...

This thread should temper their expectations and keep in mind that the main product remains the Galactic Prisoner, and the Galactic Survivor after that. Since these stories were written by Akira Toriyama, it's about time they were animated.

This "Super Kai" (I'll be using this unofficial name from ...

I think it's fair to assume that this "remaster" is not really for any of us. It's just to give a less crude-looking version of the show that might be more appealing to new viewers.

...I'll be content if it just flows decently tbh. And if it fixes the most egregiously awful shots from OG Super ...

The story of these arcs was always fine. When you go back to the old threads, you'll see that the major complaints were always about the "ugly artstyle". This remaster fixes that. The scenes in this trailer look absolutely stunning.

The second major complaint was the filler/padding scenes, which is ...

The characters did things in the meantime, yes.
But the story still frames itself like their success depended on Goku's return at the end of the day.

"What a fearsome Ki. Hold on just a little more, you guys, I'm going to get out of this tube any second now!"
- No, this is not Toei filler ...

The characters did things in the meantime, yes.
But the story still frames itself like their success depended on Goku's return at the end of the day.

"What a fearsome Ki. Hold on just a little more, you guys, I'm going to get out of this tube any second now!"
- No, this is not Toei filler, this ...

Agreed. However, just throwing out facts from the manga as it seems to be more questionable than the anime about Zamas's immortality.

BTW, Beerus states his Hakai completely wipes things out of existence. Yet still says he can't kill an immortal. What's the point of being immortal if you can be ...

This:


As a writer, you want me to relate to your character, right?


And this

You want to pass on to me the message that your character is successful, strong and that he inspires others to be just like him.
You want to go even further and pass on to me the message that said character's success ...

Manga:

Vegetto stated he would have killed Zamas. With so much power it wouldn't give him time to regenerate. Wiping every trace of him away .

Goku's low rent Hakai was disintegrating Zamas rapidly and Zamas grabbed Mai to save himself. Forcing Goku to stop.

Full power Blue Goku didn't give ...

I wonder if a wish from the Super Dragon Balls could do it, what do you think?


There's no way to answer this. Regardless, that's not really a technique or an ability someone can use in battle.


But it's defeating him all the same, does it matter if he can be killed?


Yeah, it doesn't matter ...

3. Zamasu (immortal, you need a way to kill him which most don't have)


Who can kill him, besides Zeno?

Beerus himself stated that Hakai cannot kill an immortal, btw.

Even Whis can't actually kill him and needs a sealing technique better than the Mafuba.


Boo can absorb him. Moro can ...

Yuji wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2026 6:26 am 3. Zamasu (immortal, you need a way to kill him which most don't have)

Who can kill him, besides Zeno?

Beerus himself stated that Hakai cannot kill an immortal, btw.

Even Whis can't actually kill him and needs a sealing technique better than the Mafuba.

On a side-note, this is the direct consequence of taking Dragon Ball as an apolitical, unserious work of art with terrible amoral protagonists and nothing to teach to its audience: Using its imagery as a display of dumb brute strength.


You're acting like they didn't just spam <insert a ...

That's why I still think we need EoZ with Uub, Pan, Bulla, Goten, Trunks, and maybe even Marron getting more of the spotlight.


More screentime in the final arc? Sure, why not. An entire series about them? I am not interested. These characters are nice as window-dressing but they can't carry a ...

Dragon Ball > Dragon Ball Z > Dragon Ball Daima > Battle of Gods > Resurrection of F> Dragon Ball Super from ep. 28 > Broly > Super Hero

Feels like the simplest, most obvious, and most fulfilling "viewing order".

Hopefully it will end with Super. The ending of DBZ was a perfect conclusion to the Dragon Ball world and there shouldn't be a story set after it.

Also, Goku is the heart and soul of Dragon Ball and I have absolutely NO interest in a series where Goku is sidelined for these so-called "new gen ...

What makes our Canon Goku Black subversive and unique is that he's neither Goku nor a Saiyan at all. He's a body-stealing...

Somewhere in the multiverse, a version of Captain Ginyu in Goku's body is wondering why you think this is unique.


Zamasu is cuntier, therefore more entertaining ...

All logic and evidence points out to the fact that yes, they did.


I was out of the DB fandom for a loooooong time, never really read any DB Fan story until I returned in 2020. I did not experience the DB Super hype as it was happening... but, once I returned due to the 2020 global pandemic ...

What makes our Canon Goku Black subversive and unique is that he's neither Goku nor a Saiyan at all. He's a body-stealing...

Somewhere in the multiverse, a version of Captain Ginyu in Goku's body is wondering why you think this is unique.


Do you think Majin Buu is a unique villain?

Also, is ...