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It’s been reiterated many times, but Gohan hands down. I like Gohan and believe he should not have been shafted in Super, but I agree that getting undeserved power ups out of nowhere is his MO.

Must say I really like and agree with most of the replies in this thread. It’s hilarious how people ...

Piccolo's 2 major power-ups in the series were arguably worse than any of the Saiyans. Neither involved any talent or hard work, just puts his hands on another Namekian and that's it lol.

Out of the all Saiyans, Gohan's are easily the most undeserved (Elder Kai boost, becoming SSB level in 1 day ...

Not nessasarily Torishima, but someone experienced in showrunning to supervise the series would be great.

The Toriyama editor corrections rumor are exaggerated. They merely made him change appearances for characters.

Same thing. What’s exaggerated about it?

People assuming Toriyama is just such a terrible writer that without his editors, Drgonball would of fell apart. After reading the ...

- Broly is Future Trunks' father

- Goku & Vegeta's bases in Super are the same as they were in the Buu saga

- Transformations are tiers of power

- Goku was holding back against Cell

- Freeza killed Goku on Namek, who was then wished back by Shenron.

Toei (and sometimes Toyotaro) has outshined Toriyama when it comes to this franchise numerous times. (Examples include 90's Bardock > DB Minus, the anime Buu saga > the manga Buu saga, many fights, Goku's characterization etc).

This "Toriyama can do no wrong" mentality is extremely annoying ...

Crossover galore:
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How was Toei's characterization of Goku better than Toriyama's?


If you compare Toei's DB(Z) Goku to Modern DB's Goku (the most blatantly Toriyama-like version of him), you'll notice that classic Goku is smarter, more competent, more serious (when needed to be), less "poisonious" and has ...

How was Toei's characterization of Goku better than Toriyama's?


If you compare Toei's DB(Z) Goku to Modern DB's Goku (the most blatantly Toriyama-like version of him), you'll notice that classic Goku is smarter, more competent, more serious (when needed to be), less "poisonious" and has much ...

I believe Toriyama still understands his series very well, but I think he's always been kinda bad at talking about it.

Oh, Toriyama still understands how the series pretty well, perhaps even better than he used to when he was writing it. If you watch the 3 movies he's directly written; BOG, RF ...

Even with an amazing acting, I think James Marsters was a miscast for Zamasu's voice. Does anyone agree with that? Or is just another unpopular opinion?


I also agree (even though James Marsters is a good actor).

I always thought Liam O'Brian, Brad Swaile or Yuri Lowenthal would be perfect for ...

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Steven Bloodriver wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:18 pm

This is so epic

Since this has a bit of relation to the thread, I will try to use just the base Saiyan.

Goku (vs. Freeza) - 3M
Goku (vs. Cell) - 30M
Gohan (vs Cell) - 35M
Goku (vs Boo) - 45M
Goku (vs Beerus) - 50M
Freeza - 120M

So, in your scale, if Goku was a 6, Gohan was a 7.


There's no way the Base ...

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Nokra wrote: Sat May 18, 2019 8:12 am Super story arc Goku is best. He's most like what toriyama wants.

That doesn't automatically make it good (and Toriyama has shown some questionable choices and taste several times).

NewKakarot wrote: Sat May 18, 2019 1:12 am I think the Saiyan Arc handled his character best, with him rejecting his Saiyan heritage and instead seeing himself as an Earthling. I just think it makes the most sense for a guy like Goku

So racial self-hatred is best for him? That's sounds so wrong on multiple levels.

Its either the Namek or Buu sagas as far as overall portrayal and characterization.