Kanzenshuu

supersaiyangodgogeta wrote:Ok, so you have no argument. Good to know.

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What Piccolo has in mind has nothing to do with what the kids have in mind. Piccolo knows that they have no chance, yet the kids think they can beat Boo as fused Super Saiyans.

They then think that they can equal Boo with Base Fusion after their training. Piccolo then thinks that Base Gotenks ...

Post Rosat Base Gotenks and Pre Rosat SSJ Gotenks are never directly compared. The only common denominator is that Gotenks in both cases thinks he can beat Boo, which was wrong. And what Krillin and Yamcha thought is irrelevant. They were wrong. They were basing their assessment based on Gotenks ...

Post Rosat Base Gotenks and Pre Rosat SSJ Gotenks are never directly compared. The only common denominator is that Gotenks in both cases thinks he can beat Boo, which was wrong. And what Krillin and Yamcha thought is irrelevant. They were wrong. They were basing their assessment based on Gotenks ...

It doesn't matter what Trunks and Piccolo said. They were wrong as demonstrated. Not only were they shown to be wrong, their assessments weren't even close to accurate. So their assessment has nothing to do with ki sensing. Trunks is being an arrogant kid and Piccolo is holding onto a false hope ...

It doesn't matter what Trunks and Piccolo said. They were wrong as demonstrated. Not only were they shown to be wrong, their assessments weren't even close to accurate. So their assessment has nothing to do with ki sensing. Trunks is being an arrogant kid and Piccolo is holding onto a false hope ...

You should follow your own suggestion. It’s very clear you are reading those statements without considering what happened later. Not only Goku lied about not being able to beat Majin Boo, but Gotenks didn’t become what they were expecting.
:D you took a huge L, who cares what you think when ...

next time read the manga before you debate, i dont care about your opinions
You should follow your own suggestion. It’s very clear you are reading those statements without considering what happened later. Not only Goku lied about not being able to beat Majin Boo, but Gotenks didn’t become what ...

SSJ Gotenks pre Rosat > SSJ3 GOKU, stated, Base Gotenks after 1hour outside = 15 days inside Rosat got stronger than his SSJ. So if you people are discussing his strength at least read the DBZ manga first. That power up clearly shows that Fusion is a multiplication, just like SEG states, as its ...

Gotenks in Base is stronger than the SSJs of his fusees. All indications show that to he true. How he compares to Vegeta is irrelevant. And Gotenks obviously isn't competing with Super Buu until he hits SSJ3, but that doesnt mean his Base cant be stronger than the SSJ of his fusions.
He can't be ...

Gotenks in Base is stronger than the SSJs of his fusees. All indications show that to he true. How he compares to Vegeta is irrelevant. And Gotenks obviously isn't competing with Super Buu until he hits SSJ3, but that doesnt mean his Base cant be stronger than the SSJ of his fusions.
He can't be ...

Wouldn't work. A lot of things say that Gotenks isn't impressive until he reaches SS3.

Hell, Daizenshuu says he's weaker than Vegeta before the RoSaT and Kuririn implies twice that Boo is stronger than SS Gotenks in the RoF arc.

Gotenks in Base is stronger than the SSJs of his fusees. All ...

That was the original conversation. I brought up Base Gotenks>SSJ Trunks, and your rebuttal was something about SSJ3 Goku as though that was relevant. Point is, that was what was disputed. And no, the premise that Base fusion>SSJ fusee has never had any exceptions to it. Not sure what you are ...

How is any of this relevant to whether or not Base Gotenks>SSJ Trunks/Goten?

They are talking about Gotenks being weaker than Vegita.
Who tf cares about Base Gotenks > SSJ Trunks? I have told you already that the theory of that strongest form is bullshit as their base got more than 50x ...

Those qualifiers aren’t present.



I guess Goku could have grossly overstimated the effects of fusion.

SSJ Gotenks pre Rosat > SSJ3 GOKU, stated, Base Gotenks after 1hour outside = 15 days inside Rosat got stronger than his SSJ. So if you people are discussing his strength at least read the DBZ ...

Daizenshuu saying Majin Vegeta>Base Gotenks or something like that.
Those qualifiers aren’t present.

The two entered the Room of Spirit and Time, and hurriedly trained as Gotenks. As a result, Gotenks leveled up so much that his strength surpassed Vegeta and the others.

I guess Goku could have ...

Some misnomers you got there.

First of all, you never "proved" that your weird formula doesn't work because I'm not even using it. Second, I saw that Vegito struggled against Merged Zamasu AFTER he pumped himself up with extra power due to Goku blasting him and killing his mortal half; even then ...

I do realize that was the case in the manga. I also realize that I'm using the anime as a basis since most of the major production staff hail from the anime and that the movie's story was designed as a sequel to the Tournament of Power (presumably the anime since that was the one that the ...

So, assuming that the theory of the fusees max shared forms/strength as the base of the resulting Fusion is indeed true, where does that put Kefla?

Technically speaking, whilst Kale didn't have a "normal" SS2 form, it still is being referred to as "SS2" by post-release material. So, for the ...

So, assuming that the theory of the fusees max shared forms/strength as the base of the resulting Fusion is indeed true, where does that put Kefla?

Technically speaking, whilst Kale didn't have a "normal" SS2 form, it still is being referred to as "SS2" by post-release material. So, for the ...