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by Zeon_Grunt
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:03 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Endings
Replies: 155
Views: 13925

Re: Endings

The same reason why Toriyama himself ended the manga back in the day, artistic integrity. That's one reason, but it's important to understand that a company owned and controlled franchise isn't the same thing as a single story told by a single author. Dragon Ball may have started as the latter, but...
by Zeon_Grunt
Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:48 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 14629
Views: 1579816

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Dragon Ball Minus is the worst additional content ever produced for the franchise. I don't know how unpopular that opinion is, but, yeah... Episode of Bardock and Super Dragon Ball Heroes are worse imo. At least Minus can serve the point of seeing what the original author's idea of that story would...
by Zeon_Grunt
Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:33 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Endings
Replies: 155
Views: 13925

Re: Endings

If they're going to waste their time retelling the same story, why not find different manga to adapt and bring to the public's attention ? Instead of going on forever (continuations to the original manga or reboots), why not leave DB as is and move on to something else ? You're confusing "rebo...
by Zeon_Grunt
Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:04 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Endings
Replies: 155
Views: 13925

Re: Endings

What if the series ended and rebooted? That could work pretty well. Imagine a more grounded or mature take on the Dragon Ball universe that didn't just throw logic and sensible progression to the wind during fights. Imagine how much better the series could be if, from the start, the power scale and...
by Zeon_Grunt
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:35 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Endings
Replies: 155
Views: 13925

Re: Endings

BOG was written as a one time story. Toriyama went as far as to say he had no idea about the franchise's future during interviews leading up to it. According to a producer, the decision to make more stories was made after BOG finished its theatrical run, which explains why so many ideas were backtr...
by Zeon_Grunt
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:08 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Endings
Replies: 155
Views: 13925

Re: Endings

Besides, the more stories they cram into that 10 year time gap, the less meaningful that epilogue becomes. Even before that, altering the context of it lessens the meaningfulness of it as well. The previous way it played out, Vegeta hadn't been a legitimate rival for Goku since the former got out o...
by Zeon_Grunt
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:31 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Endings
Replies: 155
Views: 13925

Re: Endings

A good ending is always appreciated, but it isn't necessary for an ongoing franchise to have a definitive end. I think the main issue is that some fans want a show to just be a good story about the main cast and don't want it to go any further than that. That works just fine when you're trying to pr...
by Zeon_Grunt
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:11 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: What do you want with Broly?
Replies: 343
Views: 32517

Re: What do you want with Broly?

Regardless, the key to a successful perpetual series is to breed lifelong fans, not abandon them every time a batch of fans exit the original target demographic. THIS is the sort of entitlement mentality I'm talking about. What a gross abuse of language.and good lord, the show isn't abandoning the ...
by Zeon_Grunt
Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:52 pm
Forum: Website & Community Discussion
Topic: PS4 community
Replies: 6
Views: 2977

Re: PS4 community

You can probably gather a few players on the platform to play a game or two (if I still played FighterZ online or enjoyed XV's combat anymore, I'd throw my name in that hat, but that's just not the case at this point in time), sure, but I don't think there's anything to really discuss that would inv...
by Zeon_Grunt
Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:23 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: What do you want with Broly?
Replies: 343
Views: 32517

Re: What do you want with Broly?

Dabb is also a talented writer and NO duh that no writer has a perfect track record. That's the point. That was not remotely the point you were making... It's not lack of talent that's the factor. It really is. The right talent with the right And you clearly don't know how backdoor pilots work. The...
by Zeon_Grunt
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:40 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: What do you want with Broly?
Replies: 343
Views: 32517

Re: What do you want with Broly?

And it all means nothing if the stories aren't compelling. It's not the lore that draws in generation after generation, it's the stories. What makes it fascinating is that it was one guy who did all that. You're right that all the lore in the world means nothing without a compelling story, but that...
by Zeon_Grunt
Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:51 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: What do you want with Broly?
Replies: 343
Views: 32517

Re: What do you want with Broly?

Now I think I've got a handle on you. You LOVE lore and world building, but you aren't most people. People get emotionally attached to characters, not information. All lore and world building are is exposition. They're necessary for the story, but they aren't more important than the story. I'm not ...
by Zeon_Grunt
Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:31 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball and COVID-19
Replies: 84
Views: 8710

Re: Dragon Ball and COVID-19

Does not mean it's not true either, also again you admitting to skimming the article means anything you have to say about it is meaningless. That's not how that works, you're just an incredibly dismissive person as you've shown multiple times to me since I've gotten here. If you read the first and ...
by Zeon_Grunt
Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:37 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball and COVID-19
Replies: 84
Views: 8710

Re: Dragon Ball and COVID-19

You did see Mike's message about staying on topic right? :? Actually, no, I didn't. I forgot to hit confirm post when I finished with that and went to play with the kids for a while (my response to another thread has also been sitting here on the "editing board" for a few hours). Came bac...
by Zeon_Grunt
Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:25 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball and COVID-19
Replies: 84
Views: 8710

Re: Dragon Ball and COVID-19

The left has it's issues for sure(certainly amongst the Bernie Bros at least, some days I can hardly tell the difference between them and Trump supporters) but they are still leagues above the right(For one thing the left aren't advocating for people to go back to work and saying it's not a big dea...
by Zeon_Grunt
Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:05 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball and COVID-19
Replies: 84
Views: 8710

Re: Dragon Ball and COVID-19

Most republicans certainly. And most democrats too. Sadly, corporate interests and money have found their way into almost every aspect and crevice of our electoral systems. Unfortunately, neither main political party is innocent of corruption and corporate influences. https://thehill.com/business-a...
by Zeon_Grunt
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:50 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: What do you want with Broly?
Replies: 343
Views: 32517

Re: What do you want with Broly?

Dragon Ball has been frozen in amber since the Buu Saga and I don't know if the fanbase understands how much of modern DB is built on the smallest sliver of the story. Before then the status quo changed with every new arc. I might get hate for this but, Vegeta is the original sin here. Part of what...
by Zeon_Grunt
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:18 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: What do you want with Broly?
Replies: 343
Views: 32517

Re: What do you want with Broly?

Pokemon's animated franchise has grown up and matured tremendously, even if it's still aimed at children. And yet it's apparently not enough to keep the series' ratings and viewership from tanking to the point where they were called dismal as recently as Dec '18 and the home releases sales have onl...
by Zeon_Grunt
Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:57 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball and COVID-19
Replies: 84
Views: 8710

Re: Dragon Ball and COVID-19

Is this becoming the go-to politics thread, now that the Vic Mignogna thread is closed? I'd hope not, but unlike the Vic thread that jumped from political topic to political topic with little or no relevance to the original post, any thread about the coronavirus and it's effects on the world is bou...
by Zeon_Grunt
Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:32 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: What do you want with Broly?
Replies: 343
Views: 32517

Re: What do you want with Broly?

But why? What is the point? Why is this story that most fans USED to generally agreed lasted longer than it should have (with most fans thinking it should have ended at Freeza) needing an expanded universe with unrelated side programs? I hate to be a broken record but the original anime ran for 508...