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They would have never doubted it being teleportation if such speed wasn't normally possible for them. Logic bro They are used to see Goku move at super speed, but you missed the point here. How someone so fast can prove that he can teleport? That's the question you should make to understand the sce...

You can reach to something that is too fast to see if you can hear it for example. Their are many levels of too fast to see before you get to lightspeed. If someone was moving at lightspeed around you, you would have no idea where they are. The camera has a vague idea where Goku and Cell are. This ...

If Goku at the start Early DB had MUI, who is the strongest character that he could match? And what about if Goku at the start of Z had MUI?

All races/species should have their own God form in the series. It's disappointing that Super Namekian God Piccolo hasn't become an actual thing, even in Heroes.

Its clear you don't understand basic logic and just want to downplay. You didn't get it, you ignored the basic fact that Goku moving at that speed at wasn't look at as impossible by the rest of the cast, you undermines your entire argument. Your Gotenks/Piccolo argument makes no sense. We are never...

They're faster than light going by whatever "light" is in DB's universe. It's a similar principle to the black hole at the ToP despite said-black hole being only superficially similar to how they function in the real world. Ever wonder how two fighters in DB can physically talk to each ot...

It’s totally irrelevant the difference between combat speed and travel speed, since both are used in battle, and we are not debating who is punching or blocking faster, but rather moving faster. The scene about the introduction of instantaneous movement is blatantly clear. Goku could only prove he ...

https://youtu.be/W4S4aAfHIHM 23 mins in The camera is moving almost right behind them and the announcer in addition to asking Hercule what is going on mentions they're faster than the human eye which means they are at a speed where you can try to keep up with them . Humans can't even attempt to fol...

It’s not about being in denial or not, it’s just that I don’t think destroying the moon like that is a very good indication of faster than light movement when we have a whole scene describing how a massively stronger and faster version of Goku can’t move to Muten Roshi’s house and return to the loc...

It’s not about being in denial or not, it’s just that I don’t think destroying the moon like that is a very good indication of faster than light movement when we have a whole scene describing how a massively stronger and faster version of Goku can’t move to Muten Roshi’s house and return to the loc...

Humans can't react to something moving at the speed of light. If Goku and Cell are fighting that fast they would have popped up several times before the camera could move once to even think to track them. Which is exactly what happened during the camera scene, its obvious you don't remember the Cel...

Is there any official information on how of an increase MUI is from UI Omen, or the multipliers for SSG & SSB?

It's because you're being needlessly pedantic, in the same panel Piccolo fires the ki blast it hits the moon https://i28.servimg.com/u/f28/13/72/36/40/moon10.png It may not have a stopwatch timer next to it but... do you not know how comic books work or something? Actions that take place within a s...

Just watch the scene, its almost instantaneous how he blows it up in the manga and in the anime its literally about 4 seconds in real time as he blasts the Moon. I’m not seeing how this proves anything. Real time doesn’t correlate with manga panels or anime time stamps. It's because you're being ne...

The Cameramen are moving to right where Goku and Cell where as if they just missed them. Humans can't react that quickly to lightspeed. Watch the seen again. The camera was actually moving in the opposite of how Goku & Cell were actually moving as if they couldn't tell where they actually are. ...

That's dangerously circular! Are you really asking me "how is he wrong when he is right?"? That's not circular reasoning, and you didn't explain how Totally Not Mark and others are supposedly wrong. Well, the OP of this thread is all about some very important themes in the Buu arc that To...

I would say just because some ki attacks look like some laser light or flash, it doesn’t mean they are as fast as light. Actually, Dyspo is the first one to have actually reach that kind of feat (and even that is anime-only). I would argue Jiren and Ultra Instinct Goku may be comparable. You can me...

Everytime I hear someone say FTL speeds I remind everyone the Cell games cameras were tracking Goku vs Cell and Hercule was watching Goku vs Kid Buu. Goku vs Beerus is the first time the Z fighters worry about losing someone. Actually, the series made it a point that Gohan was the only person who c...

Everytime I hear someone say FTL speeds I remind everyone the Cell games cameras were tracking Goku vs Cell and Hercule was watching Goku vs Kid Buu. Goku vs Beerus is the first time the Z fighters worry about losing someone. Actually, the series made it a point that Gohan was the only person who c...

I couldn't disagree more. I actually think Totally Not Mark is particularly off-base when it comes to those topic, and the Buu arc more broadly. How is he off-base when he's basically right about Gohan as a character? That's dangerously circular! Are you really asking me "how is he wrong when ...