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by Mister Ape
Fri May 09, 2025 3:39 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: About what Toriyama meant with this enigmatic statement
Replies: 7
Views: 132

Re: About what Toriyama meant with this enigmatic statement

Toriyama stated both SSJ2 and SSJ3 drained stamina, even though SSJ2 did not do so much. However it may still be worth training for, but Goku and Vegeta did not train for SSJB2. On the other hand SSJ3 needs such a long specific training it definitely is sub optimal and not worth it. If Goku knew he ...
by Mister Ape
Fri May 09, 2025 1:31 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: About what Toriyama meant with this enigmatic statement
Replies: 7
Views: 132

Re: About what Toriyama meant with this enigmatic statement

Thanks Slangh. Do you think for a basic, default kind of U7 Saiyan, who right now just mastered SSJ, is it better to train to get SSJ2 or to train to get more powerful in Base and SSJ ?
by Mister Ape
Thu May 08, 2025 7:31 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Do you think GT Goku and Vegeta are stronger than their Super counterparts?
Replies: 153
Views: 18304

Re: Do you think GT Goku and Vegeta are stronger than their Super counterparts?

No way. I am not saying Base form Base Cabba could beat SSJ4 Gogeta, but he would beat at least pre Surpassed Limits SSJ4 Goku. I even believe SSJ or SSJ2 Base Cabba may be enough to beat SSJ4 Gogeta ironically, and SSJ Caulifla would stomp him.
by Mister Ape
Thu May 08, 2025 2:40 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: About what Toriyama meant with this enigmatic statement
Replies: 7
Views: 132

About what Toriyama meant with this enigmatic statement

Toriyama once said something quite enigmatic about SSJ forms.

He said -"Super Saiyan 2 and 3 are nothing more than powered-up variations of Super Saiyan. After the fight with Beerus, Goku realized that mastering his normal state and Super Saiyan would raise his level more and sap less strength, so ...