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by Miracles
Mon May 25, 2020 5:27 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 32356
Views: 2459826

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

To me this is a wait and revisit chapter with, possibly, the exception of Goku. Goku's arc here is to get closer to dominating Ultra Instinct, which he did. This technique(hated how Merus called it a form) shouldn't be achieved easily. So while it might seem Goku didn't progress he did, a lot. This...
by Miracles
Mon May 25, 2020 5:18 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Super Sayain Rage, SSBKK non canon to the DBS Manga
Replies: 52
Views: 687

Re: Is Super Sayain Rage, SSBKK non canon to the DBS Manga

Where does Toriyama say that if he didn't write something, isn't it canon? I posted the interviews in this thread showing where Toriyama rewrote TOEI's entire scripts because he said they were not representation of Dragonball. representation of Dragonball =/= canon you are putting words in his mout...
by Miracles
Mon May 25, 2020 3:35 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Super Sayain Rage, SSBKK non canon to the DBS Manga
Replies: 52
Views: 687

Re: Is Super Sayain Rage, SSBKK non canon to the DBS Manga

the work of others does not matter? so according to you ... the current star wars is also not canon because its creator does not participate don't impose your own rules on a story that doesn't belong to you I am using Toriyama's rules. They didn't write the story. Toriyama did. Where does Toriyama ...
by Miracles
Mon May 25, 2020 4:19 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31529
Views: 1728070

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Shouldn't get into a passionate discussion about non canon V-Jump. Which contradicts the manga and Toyotaro's own words about Beerus and Vegetto. It's simply not a factor. But the V-Jump quote doesn't contradict the manga, it confirms it. And the manga is Toyo's most important word, not what he may...
by Miracles
Mon May 25, 2020 4:17 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Super Sayain Rage, SSBKK non canon to the DBS Manga
Replies: 52
Views: 687

Re: Is Super Sayain Rage, SSBKK non canon to the DBS Manga

Maybe I'm missing something, but how can that work ? RF ends with Freeza dying, yet is alive in Broly due to the events of the TOP. A more logical way to look at things (which you may be and I missed it) is the movies being canon, alongside the scripts provided to Toei and Toyotaro for Super, which...
by Miracles
Sun May 24, 2020 9:44 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31529
Views: 1728070

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Shouldn't get into a passionate discussion about non canon V-Jump. Which contradicts the manga and Toyotaro's own words about Beerus and Vegetto. It's simply not a factor.
by Miracles
Sun May 24, 2020 4:39 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Super Sayain Rage, SSBKK non canon to the DBS Manga
Replies: 52
Views: 687

Re: Is Super Sayain Rage, SSBKK non canon to the DBS Manga

Maybe I'm missing something, but how can that work ? RF ends with Freeza dying, yet is alive in Broly due to the events of the TOP. A more logical way to look at things (which you may be and I missed it) is the movies being canon, alongside the scripts provided to Toei and Toyotaro for Super, which...
by Miracles
Sun May 24, 2020 2:13 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Super Sayain Rage, SSBKK non canon to the DBS Manga
Replies: 52
Views: 687

Re: Is Super Sayain Rage, SSBKK non canon to the DBS Manga

The movies are the only canon because Toriyama wrote the entire scripts himself. Maybe I'm missing something, but how can that work ? RF ends with Freeza dying, yet is alive in Broly due to the events of the TOP. A more logical way to look at things (which you may be and I missed it) is the movies ...
by Miracles
Sat May 23, 2020 9:53 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31529
Views: 1728070

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I'm pretty sure that Gogeta Blue was several times stronger than Broly. BUT only Blue Gogeta could get the job done. God Gogeta would be an even match for Broly. This is without my headcanon. With my headcanon FPSS Broly = 30×Blue ≈ God Gogeta Blue Gogeta = 150× Blue ≈5×God Gogeta or FPSS Broly It'...
by Miracles
Sat May 23, 2020 9:44 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Super Sayain Rage, SSBKK non canon to the DBS Manga
Replies: 52
Views: 687

Re: Is Super Sayain Rage, SSBKK non canon to the DBS Manga

will depend on what he considers irrelevant things like the ikari transformation are basically the ssj4 which is not even the author's idea but if the scriptwriters of toei and the fact that they said they had to cut multiple scenes as it was too long is no longer an irrelevant change and still you...
by Miracles
Sat May 23, 2020 4:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 32356
Views: 2459826

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Some great action this chapter. However, this chapter really confirms to me that this whole thing is just filler. Goku still can't use UI, even though he trained for it, and Vegeta hasn't moved past Blue Evolution. The status quo is the same as at the end of the Tournament of Power. Nothing changed...
by Miracles
Sat May 23, 2020 3:58 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14399
Views: 1015730

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Again Toriyama's SS Broly was a sublte homage it shows the difference between Toriyama and everyone else. Look I love Shintani but he should have stayed out of it and his stupid FP Broly threatened to ruin the film, this is not the Broly of old IT IS IN NAME ONLY and the this stupid green form born...
by Miracles
Sat May 23, 2020 3:55 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Super Sayain Rage, SSBKK non canon to the DBS Manga
Replies: 52
Views: 687

Re: Is Super Sayain Rage, SSBKK non canon to the DBS Manga

is the only thing that needs something to be canon the approval of the original author boruto is canon but kishimoto is not involved in almost anything and who decided? because you are imposing a rule to determine the canon and this is not how things work and toriyama's narration was built with ide...
by Miracles
Sat May 23, 2020 3:51 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31529
Views: 1728070

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Broly was indeed on Blue Gogeta's level. Look how much it took for him to be defeated. Also, Broly could follow Blue Gogeta. In DB, you have to be on par in order for these to be established. I'm pretty sure that Gogeta Blue was several times stronger than Broly. BUT only Blue Gogeta could get the ...
by Miracles
Sat May 23, 2020 2:53 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 32356
Views: 2459826

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

It is evolution (The aura is flamelike like SSG) Agreed. I stated the evolved version of Blue, meaning Blue evolution. The form Vegeta used in the TOP. Like Piccolo and Gohan were discussing. I like the Manga's version better than the anime's Me too. The anime made Vegeta look like he's advertising...
by Miracles
Sat May 23, 2020 2:16 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 32356
Views: 2459826

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

And they used a panel from the latest chapter to illustrate Evolved Blue Vegeta. Didn't notice he is using Evolved Blue vs Moro, he is not messing around. Yeah, Piccolo and Gohan mention that Vegeta is using the same Blue form from the TOP in this chapter. IE That evolved version of Blue. Which Veg...
by Miracles
Sat May 23, 2020 12:05 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 32356
Views: 2459826

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

And they used a panel from the latest chapter to illustrate Evolved Blue Vegeta. Didn't notice he is using Evolved Blue vs Moro, he is not messing around. Yeah, Piccolo and Gohan mention that Vegeta is using the same Blue form from the TOP in this chapter. IE That evolved version of Blue. Which Veg...
by Miracles
Sat May 23, 2020 12:03 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31529
Views: 1728070

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Broly was indeed on Blue Gogeta's level. Look how much it took for him to be defeated.
Also, Broly could follow Blue Gogeta.

In DB, you have to be on par in order for these to be established.
by Miracles
Fri May 22, 2020 11:27 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31529
Views: 1728070

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

When did G.Freeza ever smack up Dsypo? Show some clips. Meanwhile, Hit actually did smack up Dsypo even before Goku stepped in lol.: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OilyWeakEuropeanfiresalamander-size_restricted.gif Dsypo only went Hyper Speed mode once Gohan jumped in. Jiren never glared Hit away at all...
by Miracles
Fri May 22, 2020 11:24 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Super Sayain Rage, SSBKK non canon to the DBS Manga
Replies: 52
Views: 687

Re: Is Super Sayain Rage, SSBKK non canon to the DBS Manga

you realize that toppo, kefla, dyspo, anilaza and various characters were created by toei in addition to various transformations with that toei is already intervening in the original scripts even in the movies current ... gogeta and broly were created by toei and you have no proof that toriyama was...