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by Miracles
Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:24 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Why Did Vegeta Fail To Lift Magetta?
Replies: 69
Views: 1319

Re: Why Did Vegeta Fail To Lift Magetta?

Cause the authors intent was introducing universe six. They were not interested in showing off Vegeta but the new warriors of that world. Therefore, Vegeta not being able to lift Magetta was simply plot based. Magetta gets lifted by Kale in the TOP because the author's intent is to demonstrate her p...
by Miracles
Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:27 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32296
Views: 1815605

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Yeah. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks. :) Oh, I see. That's great then. Sorry for not seeing those posts from before. As for Kale, I believe Kefla having Caulifla's "battle sense" (as Vados mentioned) is what made her movements seem far superior to before , since she is no longer a raging monster. P...
by Miracles
Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32296
Views: 1815605

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

There is no way to tell how strong Piccolo is. Since "feats" are usually based off of the audience own tunnel vision interpretation. The story's intent wasn't to make a comparison between Piccolo and 17. 17 and 18 were used solely for a narrative purpose against 7-3. Their energy could not be absorb...
by Miracles
Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:58 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 34000
Views: 2600971

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Does anyone think that shield Moro put up will allow Merus to go all out for a bit?
Do you think Toyotaro would possibly narrate that shield to not detect people inside of it?

I know Merus is going to stall so the Namekian can heal. How much power will he need to contend with a powered up Moro?
by Miracles
Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:56 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32296
Views: 1815605

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

No problem. For future reference, I'm the nipple guy :lol: Yeah. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks. :) Yes. I already corrected myself when I remembered it was stated that Gohan was the strongest on earth when Goku/Vegeta are absent. I was already corrected on 17 not defeating 7-3 with Gohan's powers....
by Miracles
Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:43 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 34000
Views: 2600971

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

He really has though. I’m just gonna link this video and let it speak for itself https://youtu.be/5UeHMORYgQQ I'm not watching some youtube video to get your point. This speaks for itself. But since I'm courteous, I'll quote it. Would like to clear up something I've seen on twitter before it gets h...
by Miracles
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:58 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32296
Views: 1815605

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Contrary to some views, the story itself praised such characters. 17 was stated to be "just about" as strong as Goku and Vegeta. Gohan stalemated a fusion who was "Leagues above" Kale. Kefla was so strong, Vados stated she possibly could be "unmatched." These narrative points do not support the the...
by Miracles
Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:53 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 34000
Views: 2600971

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

“Vegeta has Never Been One to Misread an opponent’s strength” Can this arc be over please? I don’t want to have to think about it anymore. I agree that the arc overall has been mediocre to bad. However, I don't understand why people have a problem with Piccolo's line about Vegeta? Outside of unknow...
by Miracles
Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:40 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32296
Views: 1815605

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

17 beat up a 7-3 with Moro's old copy not Gohan's. That's right! Thanks for the correction. All that praise only to get 'matched'' by Gohan who was weaker than Goku as per the story. Compared to other manga fusions, she was underwhelming. Gohan being unrecognizable doesn't tell us anything btw. He ...
by Miracles
Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:33 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 34000
Views: 2600971

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

It's an interesting thought. I never looked at it that way. I can definitely see your post justified the most where Perfect Cell loses his marbles when he finds out there is a a stronger being. He wanted to flaunt his vanity because he was perfect. Sorry, I tend to ramble when I see a point that re...
by Miracles
Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:09 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32296
Views: 1815605

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

What exactly was so impressive about Saganbo anyway? People keep using him to wank Goku to insane levels. He beat Gohan and 17. So what? Both of them are not impressive. Gohan stalemated a nerfed fusion, was stated as being weaker than Goku in the ToP and 17 is even weaker than him. Contrary to som...
by Miracles
Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:46 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32296
Views: 1815605

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

What exactly was so impressive about Saganbo anyway? People keep using him to wank Goku to insane levels. He beat Gohan and 17. So what? Both of them are not impressive. Gohan stalemated a nerfed fusion, was stated as being weaker than Goku in the ToP and 17 is even weaker than him. Contrary to som...
by Miracles
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:48 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 34000
Views: 2600971

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

If I remember correctly, Cell was looking for a challenger worthy of his power. The interesting thing about Perfect Cell to me is that this isn’t really his character, or at least not all there is to it. Perfect Cell is essentially totally different from the previous 2 forms (I’ll get into the diff...
by Miracles
Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:09 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 34000
Views: 2600971

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Goku gave Cell the senzu because he believed in his son's power so much, to taunt Cell. He knew Gohan needed to realize his hidden power in order to beat Cell and that would only happen if Cell was confident and at full power himself. It never really came across as a taunt to Cell honestly. It is i...
by Miracles
Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:40 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32296
Views: 1815605

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I don't think Moro is copying the actual battle powers with 7-3's ability. Just their techniques.
Otherwise why would he need to keep the Z gang alive to absorb their energy?
by Miracles
Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:55 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 34000
Views: 2600971

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Moro beating up the lesser and keeping them alive at the same time in order to absorb them felt like a big waste of a chapter. The plot did not move until Merus and Dende showed up. Oh, Krillin is also coming with the Senzu beans. However, Merus showing up to stall Moro while Dende heals is going to...
by Miracles
Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:20 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32296
Views: 1815605

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Anyone can say with confidence that Vegeta is stronger than Goku unequivocally. But we have at least 3 or 4 dudes in here pointing out that you can't. Even the ones that agree with you. Since it is outright stated that Goku needs to surpass Vegeta. Which I've shown is up to interpretation. There is...
by Miracles
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32296
Views: 1815605

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It's the hope that people understand, Dragonball is a story first. "Feats" are ever rarely used to power scale. It's the same in this instance. My friend, I don't mean to dismiss your arguments. I acknowledge that Goku pushed back Moro more than Vegeta. However, the narration still dictates that do...
by Miracles
Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:17 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32296
Views: 1815605

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

That was stated after it was already revealed that Goku was at his limit due to Moro. Goku using raw power instead of UI's to it's utmost is his undisciplined emotions. Ok? Either way Goku's attacks started being less effective against Moro. Goku was still originally able to damage him and push him...
by Miracles
Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32296
Views: 1815605

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The dialogue stated through Moro that Goku reached his limit. Merus pointing out the fact that Goku can't make the most out of UI with sheer power has nothing to do with the fact that he was at his limit. You are again trying to conflate separate issues. They aren't separate issues, they're entirel...