Kanzenshuu

Bottom line is. Broly was never near Beerus. No one was or is.

The official translation does not have the fighters at the same power or tier roughly. It's left at a mystery with questions and concerns.
Which is in line with the actual fight scenes from CH.102/103 itself.

https://en.dragon-ball-official.com/news/01_3370.html

We just had Gas and Granolah literally fighting instantaneously.

Nah we all know Dragonball characters fight that fast. At stupendous speeds even. Toriyama just never cared to define it.

That does seem to imply that there will be a new arc at least? I mean the status of the manga is still somewhat in limbo.

...Incidentally I recently finished reading the Granolah arc and yeah I don't see how y'all can say that Black Freeza is not important. Like, the entire arc basically seems to ...

Beerus already used that ploy with Monaka. The nightmare is real fellas. Beerus is under the beds at night.

Oh and By the the factual way. God level [Specifically Beerus and Whis] is the goal not fusion level.

Vegetto Blue was only guessed to be Beerus level or above. This assumption turned out to be false when Broly who was guessed to be above Beerus too needed a stronger fusion than Vegetto to beat him ...

Who will master the ultimate technique of the gods in Ultra Instinct and become the strongest? Goku or Vegeta [Naturally Goku]. Who is suppose to "rival" the "strongest/most feared entity in the universe [Behind Whis]" Beerus? Goku or Vegeta. This is all due to training consistency. Yeah others ...

Who will master the ultimate technique of the gods in Ultra Instinct and become the strongest? Goku or Vegeta [Naturally Goku]. Who is suppose to "rival" the "strongest/most feared entity in the universe [Behind Whis]" Beerus? Goku or Vegeta. This is all due to training consistency. Yeah others like ...

Considering that the process of Gohan using the maximum amount of power that he can use before going Berserk with Beast seems to have zapped his stamina, he surely was nowhere near full power when he fought SS Broly despite the fact he had the advantage. He was even lower when he fought PSSB ...

"From Beast level to SSJ level." Lol Broly was never on Beast Gohan's level. Broly didn't face Gohan at full power but with "some gas left in the tank."


Considering that the process of Gohan using the maximum amount of power that he can use before going Berserk with Beast seems to have zapped ...

"From Beast level to SSJ level." Lol Broly was never on Beast Gohan's level. Broly didn't face Gohan at full power but with "some gas left in the tank."

The fact is Beerus is the man and ain't no mortal near him.

Let it go people.

You didn't add the facts. The point for Broly was to control himself. Not trying to achieve SSJ. The idea of making SSJ his own to mean not being able to access it is flat out wrong.

All Broly has to do to go SSJ is go Berserk.
Evidently not, since both the chapters and (again) his own film pointedly make the distinction between Broly simply going berserk and Broly also going Super Saiyan, which had an additional qualifier.

Anyway, the proof is in the pudding when 101 and ...

CH. 101, 102 and 103 says Broly didn't know how to go SSJ after controlling himself; In a controlled state. However, Broly knows how to go SSJ when he loses control CH. 93 & 101. These are the facts.

That doesn't even make sense. Broly doesn't "know" how to do anything when he's in a mindless ...

Saying when Broly controls his power, making him stronger than the rest is just a theory. That's OK to have.

There lies the problem. You claimed last post Broly was stronger than Beerus now you are saying it was implied. You corrected yourself.
Not seeing the issue here. The implication hasn’t changed: the Broly from the movie is probably stronger than Beerus. It’s not wrong to make such a claim. I ...

There lies the problem. You claimed last post Broly was stronger than Beerus now you are saying it was implied. You corrected yourself. Secondly, Broly controlling SSJ or not is not the issue on this topic. The issue is people were/are theorizing that Broly could never use his full power in the Moro ...

CH. 101, 102 and 103 says Broly didn't know how to go SSJ after controlling himself; In a controlled state. However, Broly knows how to go SSJ when he loses control CH. 93 & 101. These are the facts.

The headcanon is that Broly could never go SSJ at all. This is something that was absolutely never ...