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Yes sir, Jiren's potential couldn't be measured [Gauge his ceiling]. He was countering Goku's UI through determination as the fight went on. However, that was only due to the fact that Goku's body couldn't handle UI [Strain] since it was his first time using it. Both were at a disadvantage and it ...

Miracles

I think there's a case to be made that Toriyama had some broad strokes ideas of Broly, Cell Max, Jiren, etc., occupying the same general realm of strength as Beerus and other Gods of Destruction, hence why they're all mentioned in the same breadth with DBS:SH and surrounding media.

There is no ...

Miracles

Goku, Vegeta, Broly and Gohan are no where near Beerus. Freeza one shots Goku and Vegeta. Even with Broly's power and Vegeta's god form Goku says Freeza's Black mode is "something else." That's another realm of power.

It was 2-3 years prior when they got knocked out by Black Frieza. Then ...

Miracles

Goku, Vegeta, Broly and Gohan are no where near Beerus. Freeza one shots Goku and Vegeta. Even with Broly's power and Vegeta's god form Goku says Freeza's Black mode is "something else." That's another realm of power.

Miracles

Concerning Granolah vs Blue Vegeta. As the fight went on Vegeta's power was unlocking and ultimately his battle with Granola brought out his true potential, Ultra Ego.

As far as Blue Goku vs Gas. Gas wanted to see the fire in Goku's eye's that his father had. Then Goku played defense by playing ...

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picc wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 10:19 pm Could Goku using his Blue form from the end of the Granolah saga (or currently) beat Jiren from the ToP?

Yes. Especially when he can use Ultra Instinct with Blue.

Miracles

GreatSaiyaman123 wrote: Sat May 09, 2026 3:30 pm
Koitsukai wrote: Thu May 07, 2026 1:01 pm
Miracles wrote: Fri May 08, 2026 5:29 pm It's just a powered up version of SSJ [All his modes] after making SSJG another form of Goku's. Nothing more. It is and was never as strong as or stronger than Red.

Goku's ki was felt. Meaning he is no longer god.

Miracles

It's just a powered up version of SSJ [All his modes] after making SSJG another form of Goku's. Nothing more. It is and was never as strong as or stronger than Red.

Miracles

In terms of raw power and speed, Beast Gohan is at the top but he hasn't mastered Beast so he can't use his true full power yet and instead he had to power up right to the point where he will go berserk then he stops. This method rapidly drains his stamina though, as we see with him panting and ...

Miracles

Ajay has confirmed on Twitter (I'm not calling it "X") that the remake will indeed end after the Champa arc, however, he also said that doesn't mean they won't revisit it once the Moro arc concludes. If I had to guess, I'd say we'll get the Black and TOP remakes between the Moro and Granola arcs ...

Miracles

I miss Toriyama. Hope the DB anime franchise has a good grasp on what the legend left behind. Use everything in his archives to the fullest. Don't hold back!

Miracles

Concerning Super Saiyan god. Against Beerus, as he was fighting, Goku didn't even realize he transformed out of SSJG back into Blonde. Beerus explains that the power drop was not drastic. It was pretty close, so near Kakarott didn't even recognize there was a difference[./i] It's due to making the ...

Miracles

What is the two base theory? And why would there be even such a theory anyway?

It's Saiyan beyond God, I don't know why people just can't say that name. And it's not a theory since it's an official thing .

It says a Saiyan can attain "god- like " power without changing form. Then if a "god ...

Miracles

What is the two base theory? And why would there be even such a theory anyway?

Miracles

Piccolo in the U6 tournament surpassed Cell. The guy was able to defend attacks from final form Frost and the only way he got beat was the same way SSJ Goku did. With hidden poison attacks.

Miracles

Beerus > Freeza, Fusions, Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo, Broly etc.

When is the Oracle fish's prophecy going to come to pass that he will have a challenger?

I told y'all.

Miracles

@SupremeKai25: Anime Kefla felt like she could blow the universe away in "one shot."

Think Zamasu will survive it?

Miracles

Agreed. However, just throwing out facts from the manga as it seems to be more questionable than the anime about Zamas's immortality.

BTW, Beerus states his Hakai completely wipes things out of existence. Yet still says he can't kill an immortal. What's the point of being immortal if you can be ...

Miracles

Manga:

Vegetto stated he would have killed Zamas. With so much power it wouldn't give him time to regenerate. Wiping every trace of him away .

Goku's low rent Hakai was disintegrating Zamas rapidly and Zamas grabbed Mai to save himself. Forcing Goku to stop.

Full power Blue Goku didn't ...

Miracles

As far as Zamas immortality is concerned...

Manga:

Vegetto stated he would have killed Zamas. With so much power it wouldn't give him time to regenerate. Wiping every trace of him away .

Goku's low rent Hakai was disintegrating Zamas rapidly and Zamas grabbed Mai to save himself. Forcing Goku ...

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