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by Miracles
Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:50 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14155
Views: 769352

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

I'm still surprised toriyama wrote broly into canon, and it worked. He basically caught lightning in a bottle. And didn't even need a elongated, drawn out, emotionally forced background on Broly to get the fans to warm up to him. The writing was concise and effective unlike today's manga/anime's. E...
by Miracles
Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:28 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29718
Views: 1346162

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Narration confirms Goku lied with reasons that he didn't want to use SSJ3 against Vegeta cause of the energy drain and he didn't want to beat fat Buu cause he wanted the next generation to be the savior's of earth since he was already dead. There is no plot point saying Goku lied about Super Buu bei...
by Miracles
Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:42 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 29667
Views: 1881426

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

In terms of consistency of gaining UI, the anime failed. UI omen Goku was randomly triggered by huge energy twice [Genki and Kefla]. Then to achieve the mastered UI state he did what the manga did by throwing away harmful emotion. Now he can't get it again with no reason. In the manga Whis stated G...
by Miracles
Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 29667
Views: 1881426

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

No, because I am not saying anything the show didn't say, besides if there is any headcanon it is Whis's, he explains the genki dama isn't the main point, it served as the force he needed to resist, the shell he needed to break in order to go beyond. Whis said that, so how come is my headcanon? Thi...
by Miracles
Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:02 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 29667
Views: 1881426

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I don't think there's any headcanoning there and I agree with @Koitsukai. The anime's intent is having Goku is a very dire situation and being almost defeated, thus his thoughts and efforts almost depleted. So he breaks his limits and by almost accident achieves UI. But he can't access it later bec...
by Miracles
Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:11 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 29667
Views: 1881426

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I think you are doing what a lot of the fandom does concerning the anime. Trying to rationalize TOEI's randomness with headcanon that was never in the story [Which proves that TOEI's writing is bad in itself]. Whis stated Goku trying to overcome the energy of the Genki and failing as it went inside...
by Miracles
Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:48 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29718
Views: 1346162

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

ZombieVito wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:15 pm
Since we are speaking about Gogeta, I'll ask again.

Do people still think his base surpasses Blue?
It's extremely hard to tell. What Gogeta was doing in base, Blue Goku was doing too.
by Miracles
Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 29667
Views: 1881426

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I think you are doing what a lot of the fandom does concerning the anime. Trying to rationalize TOEI's randomness with headcanon that was never in the story [Which proves that TOEI's writing is bad in itself]. Whis stated Goku trying to overcome the energy of the Genki and failing as it went inside ...
by Miracles
Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:51 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29718
Views: 1346162

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Freeza was an anomaly. He never trained in his life. The guy was more gifted than Goku and Vegeta. It's no surprise he'd reach god level with that type of excuse.
by Miracles
Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:02 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29718
Views: 1346162

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

As stated in the movie, Vegetto wouldn't have been enough against Beerus. Merely powering up through fusion wasn't enough. The point of BoG was to introduce a new world above anything we have seen. With the incoming of god ki, an unmatched level of power for our protagonists.
by Miracles
Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:56 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 29667
Views: 1881426

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

In terms of consistency of gaining UI, the anime failed. UI omen Goku was randomly triggered by huge energy twice [Genki and Kefla]. Then to achieve the mastered UI state he did what the manga did by throwing away harmful emotion. Now he can't get it again with no reason. In the manga Whis stated Go...
by Miracles
Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:55 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 29667
Views: 1881426

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I guess Goku is back to his “only power counts” mood ever since the ToP ended because he hasn’t been able to achieve Ultra Instinct again, right? Or maybe it was always supposed to be something which had to happen randomly. Goku was stated not to have mastered UI. So it's not suppose to happen rand...
by Miracles
Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:33 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 29667
Views: 1881426

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I found it completely out of place for Roshi of all people to remind Goku of his early trainings and to not rely only on power, considering it was him who trained Goku only physically, with Korin, Popo/Kami and Whis being the ones who tried to teach him something more substantial than “just get str...
by Miracles
Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:44 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 29667
Views: 1881426

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Yeah, how was Roshi and Goku out of character with the whole Ultra Instinct bit? Goku did nothing but rely on power ups for strength improvement. Roshi came in and reminded him about true strength. The basic spiritual principles from his past training. If Goku did remember he would of achieved UI w...
by Miracles
Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:41 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 29667
Views: 1881426

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Yeah, how was Roshi and Goku out of character with the whole Ultra Instinct bit? Goku did nothing but rely on power ups for strength improvement. Roshi came in and reminded him about true strength. The basic spiritual principles from his past training. If Goku did remember he would of achieved UI wi...
by Miracles
Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 29667
Views: 1881426

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Toyotaro said he was "teaming up" with Toriyama. Getting a lot of praise "as I make it." Concluding, "I'm hoping to make it an enjoyable story." The way this arc has been going, certainly feels like Toyotaro has been writing the plot. The dragging out of events events and the stalling certainly does...
by Miracles
Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 29667
Views: 1881426

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

First off, who’s to say they DON’T know about other shit that happened during the Buu saga? Just because other events of the arc aren’t being brought up doesn’t mean they dont know about it. Second off, as I've said before, between Godtube, Zuno, the Galactic Patrol monitoring the goings on of the ...
by Miracles
Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:10 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 29667
Views: 1881426

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

The galactic police monitored Moro's battle against Dai Kai, later knew Dai Kai was absorbed by Buu, so why wouldn't the cosmic police force have info on Buu splitting into good and evil Buu? Because they don't seem to know anything else about the Buu Saga, it seems like a weirdly specific detail t...
by Miracles
Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:19 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 29667
Views: 1881426

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I have to comment on Merus knowing about Buu splitting into his good and evil half's. They could have easily justified this by having Merus mention hearing of this from the Galactic Patrol files or from them poking around in Buu's Memories. Any of that is better than Merus just knowing what happene...
by Miracles
Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:28 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29718
Views: 1346162

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Why is E100 still taken into cosideration? Goku clearly says he's holding back as Blue with her... Later on a stronger Kale failed to beat a tired SSG Goku. It's on the same episode. When SS2 Goku transforms into Blue to fight Kale, he says "I'm going to use a little more power". This plus their fi...