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by Miracles
Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:35 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 36184
Views: 2820518

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I think one of my biggest disconnects about Goku being excited about Moro’s strength is Moro is actually NOT a strong opponent. Goku himself brings it up in this chapter when he lectures Moro for never training False. Goku actually states Moro is strong because if he trained he might be stronger th...
by Miracles
Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:10 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33075
Views: 1954281

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Toriyama's eternal law: The "strongest" enemy is "always" current. That's why Goku said Moro is the strongest [toughest, but in context, he's talking strength] he has ever faced. I warned yall about this. Yep we have actual confirmation now. No need to look through old interviews or provide alterna...
by Miracles
Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33075
Views: 1954281

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Toriyama's eternal law: The "strongest" enemy is "always" current. That's why Goku said Moro is the strongest [toughest, but in context, he's talking strength] he has ever faced. I warned yall about this. Toriyama's plot point: Oracle fish: "Goku will become a formidable rival for Beerus ." These tw...
by Miracles
Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 36184
Views: 2820518

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

GodVegetto91 wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:06 pm
WTF is THIS???!!

Can anyone explain? Lol

Image
Moro's redemption.
by Miracles
Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:55 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 36184
Views: 2820518

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

The poster conveniently didn't toss in Goku putting the universe in peril after breaking the Patorra against Kid Buu. Just cause Buu wasn't merged anymore. The Potara was a permanent fusion at the time, there was no need to use such a drastic measure with the fusion dance being around. There's also...
by Miracles
Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:18 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 36184
Views: 2820518

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

It has to get bad ? You seriously think what we've been getting with him is good ? This comment explains things far better than I ever could: You know, fandoms, especially the DB fandom, tends to treat stories like a grocery store. They walk down the pages of the isle and pick and choose what they ...
by Miracles
Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 36184
Views: 2820518

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I would say it has to get actually bad for it to be considered bad by me personally. To claim this is destroying the character is an overexaggeration and to pretend its not is dishonest. It has to get bad ? You seriously think what we've been getting with him is good ? This comment explains things ...
by Miracles
Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:13 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 36184
Views: 2820518

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Interview with V-Jump editor (and mascot for public appearances) “Victory” Uchida, on editing Dragon Ball Super: Source: https://twitter.com/Cipher_db/status/1316351523715084289 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkSePBPVoAERrVw?format=png&name=900x900 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkSedizVgAAZKUw?format=pn...
by Miracles
Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:43 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 36184
Views: 2820518

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I just want Moro to be given justice next chapter. Jiren had an even fight against MUI in both anime and manga, you're telling me the next antagonist after him just loses like that, especially after all those months spent on him.. It also better be Moro getting up on his own, rather than Goku throw...
by Miracles
Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:47 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33075
Views: 1954281

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Oh wow, we got people who think Base Goku, taking and trading attacks with Ikari Broly, is stronger than Red Vegeta. Nah, just that the movie examples (from Toriyama's latest most direct installment in the franchise) showcase that combat isn't so cut and dry as "fights always go like [X] because of...
by Miracles
Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:39 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33075
Views: 1954281

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Oh wow, we got people who think Base Goku, taking and trading attacks with Ikari Broly, is stronger than Red Vegeta.
by Miracles
Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33075
Views: 1954281

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

SSJ Gogeta took blows from Green Broly that he wasn't suppose to take too. You guys use inconsistencies to try and prove your point. The fact is, if Toriyama wanted to demonstrate that Gogeta and Broly wasn't close in power he would of made Gogeta give Broly the Gohan and Cell Two-hitter quitter. T...
by Miracles
Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:15 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33075
Views: 1954281

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I'm not saying similar Ki levels makes one equal in stats. However, it shows the stats are close, not disproportionate. Due to the close Ki levels. It does not for Broly's case since he survived punishment he shouldn't have been able to if they were proportionate in the movie, why is this constantl...
by Miracles
Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33075
Views: 1954281

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

That is a misconception. Ki level alone does not determine the stats of someone, the body type does too. Broly has been shown to endure attacks far stronger than him consistently against Vegeta and Goku and it is not a new concept by any stretch either since characters such as Frieza have proven ot...
by Miracles
Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:48 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33075
Views: 1954281

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

In DB durability is power since it is backed by Ki level. It's called balance. That is a misconception. Ki level alone does not determine the stats of someone, the body type does too. Broly has been shown to endure attacks far stronger than him consistently against Vegeta and Goku and it is not a n...
by Miracles
Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:10 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33075
Views: 1954281

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I know what you've said about the statement - but that isn't what I just asked you. Please address that. I stay within canon. That's all you are going to continue to get, canon. Then to be completely clear and direct, if I may - are you saying that you personally have no position on whether Beerus ...
by Miracles
Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33075
Views: 1954281

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Magnificent Ponta wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:58 pm
Miracles wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:56 pm
I've stated repeatedly, the statement on Beerus and Broly is inconclusively left open.
I know what you've said about the statement - but that isn't what I just asked you. Please address that.
I stay within canon. That's all you are going to continue to get, canon.
by Miracles
Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:56 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33075
Views: 1954281

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The other topics about Beerus were in other discussions. That couldn't be less relevant. It is your position, clearly expressed in this very topic, and I have argued against it on the basis we have been discussing. You and I was specifically on the Broly statement. Yes, because it is evidence in fa...
by Miracles
Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:41 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33075
Views: 1954281

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Goku didn't make a claim, he made an assumptive claim. Therefore he doesn't assume it to be absolute truth. Also, in our discussion, I never stated Beerus was stronger than Broly, pertaining to this statement . I've repeatedly told you it is left open by Goku's statement. Firstly, you have quite cl...