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by Miracles
Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 28
Views: 525

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

Goku was battling Beerus in base mode, who was using over 60% of his power, getting a boost from obtaining god mode.
by Miracles
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:09 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..
Replies: 13
Views: 299

Re: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..

nato25 wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:57 pm
Didn't his anger toward Paragus being killed lead to him turning into SSJ1?
Yes. That's why Freeza remembered how Goku became SSJ, after killing Krillin. He replicated the same scenario with Paragus and Broly.
by Miracles
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:47 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Broly's rage: is it inherently genetic or learnable?
Replies: 38
Views: 3626

Re: Broly's rage: is it inherently genetic or learnable?

Broly's rage was the result of the great ape. Therefore genetic, this was stated in the movie.
by Miracles
Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:53 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 1214

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

No, as I see it. I think he was worried about his team. Listen, we don’t know how strong Jiren was. Some stuff say he was above all gods. Some other stuff claim, he’s only stronger than belmond. Personally in that situation, I think Beerus was freaking out, because he knew his team at the time had ...
by Miracles
Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:00 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30526
Views: 2084481

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

The last thing Merus said was said before in the tournament ...? no, they said other something else and the last mentioned by merus is consistent with the above? no, because the second time an external power was not necessary goku did it freeing his mind of distractions ... It seems clear to me tha...
by Miracles
Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:24 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30526
Views: 2084481

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

At least now you understand my point It has to do with it ... at least if you want to show that only the situation is important even though there were no fights at that time ... The opportunities and danger were basically the same with broly but there was no UI so the situation doesn't matter ... w...
by Miracles
Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:45 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30526
Views: 2084481

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

At least now you understand my point It has to do with it ... at least if you want to show that only the situation is important even though there were no fights at that time ... The opportunities and danger were basically the same with broly but there was no UI so the situation doesn't matter ... w...
by Miracles
Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30526
Views: 2084481

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

yes I said that you were the one who started with that ... it wasn't me but here ... there is no external factor because goku stopped fighting and jiren was calm and according to merus a physical trigger is required in a fight (opponent) to recreate the situation ... but at that time there was none...
by Miracles
Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:07 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30526
Views: 2084481

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Goku FIRST activated UI after focusing on his past teachings [From Roshi] just before Jiren was about to eliminate him from the TOP. That is an external factor of life and death and keeping emotions under control to achieve UI. yes I said that 17's sacrifice wasn't what allowed Goku to activate U I...
by Miracles
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30526
Views: 2084481

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

here a scene similar to the sacrifice of 17 and others https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJqYHcetXc8 still is needs an external physical force that is the trigger to achieve that How does it change here that the situation is not the same in the second scene in the manga? .... goku is not fighting wit...
by Miracles
Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:58 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30526
Views: 2084481

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I'm sorry but the sacrifice of 17 has nothing to do with the external power of jiren and how he can supposedly recreate the situation they never say anything about it .... it's pure headcanon No, Goku clearly stated that he was in a "life and death situation" when he activated UI last time. That me...
by Miracles
Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:10 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30526
Views: 2084481

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Goku transformed BEFORE the 17 sacrifice too. THAT was the moment he activated UI in a life and death situation. When Jiren was about to finish him.

The reason why this is being discussed is because people lack context when reading.
by Miracles
Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30526
Views: 2084481

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

in the first scene it can probably coincide with that logic ... but in the second one it clearly transforms without any external factor I was calm ... I wasn't getting attacked and jiren was was holding back in the battle vs frieza and 17 I'm sorry, Goku remaining calm when Jiren is about to put hi...
by Miracles
Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:50 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30526
Views: 2084481

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

which obviously is not the only thing necessary ... because now another is the main premise that is much more appropriate to anime .. and that contradicts the manga in the scene where goku uses it on his own ... I think I recognize a retcon when I see it ... "In the face of shock" is the same as th...
by Miracles
Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30526
Views: 2084481

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

You are forgetting last chapter. Merus said Goku needs to calm his emotions in the face of shock to activate UI. This is exactly what Goku did when Jiren was about to exit him. which obviously is not the only thing necessary ... because now another is the main premise that is much more appropriate ...
by Miracles
Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:14 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14214
Views: 852137

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

The same ones who bought classic privileged DBZ Broly being way above the working SSJ class of Goku and Vegeta without Toriyama's name on it. :clap: Don't know what are you trying to say lol It was easy to bought Broly's power back then, the "Legendary Super Saiyan" was something vague before his d...
by Miracles
Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:56 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30526
Views: 2084481

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Toyo retconing manga UI with anime UI is smart. If you can't beat it steal it. It's not a retcon. In the manga, Goku was about to be finished by Jiren, UI activated by calming himself in that moment of life and death. before he just needed to calm down ... in fact as we already know he achieve it o...
by Miracles
Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30526
Views: 2084481

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

ekrolo2 wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:15 pm
Toyo retconing manga UI with anime UI is smart. If you can't beat it steal it.
It's not a retcon. In the manga, Goku was about to be finished by Jiren, UI activated by calming himself in that moment of life and death.
by Miracles
Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:10 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14214
Views: 852137

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

I have to give Toriyama his props for making Broly a powerhouse. Keeping his "legendary" legend status alive from the old movies. To be able to go head up with fusion, the strongest components in DB is something to write home to mom about. Then being compared to the protagonists most powerful, futu...