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I'm gonna say one of the adult gokus but in an instance where he's critically wounded and can't even move right lol, like right after the first Vegeta fight.

It's no oversight. You need one Kaioshin involved to stay merged, neither person here was a Kaioshin. Only Kaioshin are allowed to use the time rings, but others can physically use them obviously. Gowasu states he's temporarily making him a Kaioshin with the earring, but the earring alone probably d...

What do you all think? Are there multiple towas like there are Dabras or only one like there's only one demigra. If the latter how did she avoid getting duplicated without being in the crack of time? Is being in the distant future enough ? https://www.reddit.com/r/dbxv/comments/d293c0/is_there_only_...

I thought Trunks returned to the future and killed the androids in 785? Or was Cell two years later? Might be getting confused because xenoverse has Cell attack at the same time... That is the alteration. Cell was completed earlier and absorbed Android 17 and Android 18 before Trunks could defeat t...

I'm starting to suspect there's sorta implied or has to be only one Towa... If she ran away to the future soon after Dabra was snatched, or was already dicking around in the future would she be duplicated by Trunks time travels or not? Which would be her home timeline she returned to before realisin...

Forgot Tarble who died when Zeno erased the timeline. And then there is the original timeline where everyone died, but Tarble is still out there. Poor guy probably died too by the hands of Abo and Cado after he arrived on Earth where he thought he would find his brother. There is not even Trunks he...

I've always felt that Vegeta's assist in the defeat of Cell was more meaningful in the Manga since he is the only one who steps in to help Gohan, while in the anime the other Z Senshi try and fail. Vegeta being the only one to try to help is a huge turning point for his character and is when I feel...

Forgot Tarble who died when Zeno erased the timeline. And then there is the original timeline where everyone died, but Tarble is still out there. Poor guy probably died too by the hands of Abo and Cado after he arrived on Earth where he thought he would find his brother. There is not even Trunks he...

EDIT: Updated to show Tarble and Cells death date narrowing the Dabra attack range of time. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1192uZ-rVgPdvRm5ke92QFbqle7TcEhNoIl9l52dt29U/edit?usp=sharing This dudes brilliant post: https://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42105 Got me thinking about what ch...

South Kaioshin's power position is odd to figure out since you have an implication that he was powerful enough to warrant absorption yet on the other hand we clearly learn that no Kaioshin was able to remove the Z-Sword from its resting place. Gohan, as a Super Saiyan, accomplished it, though. Ordi...

Saiyans biology according to toriyama rules (tails not being needed at higher power levels for example) just doesn't work with GT. You'd have to go back in time really far back to alter, accidentally or on purpose saiyans evolution. Interestingly didn't the U12 guy time travel back a long time ago? ...

So we are told that Goku, and then the other dragon team boys are given bodies by Kami. Who restores even chaozus. They then have to ask Yemnas permission anyway for them to run off and use those bodies in the afterlife. Kuririn dies on Namek and this is outside kaios jurisdiction. By definition it'...

Goku might not have liked to sit and see his friends die, but it’s what he was forced to do. Even if he kept his body (What should’ve happened since he also kept it -after the Cell Games) he’s still dead and is not allowed to interfere with the Living World. Vegeta might have been allowed to come b...

The manga is so much the official continuity, that it took them 4 years to announce any merch (figures) to represent it :wave: Because the manga readers don't buy as many children's dolls? Merch is made based on predicted sales, not as a confirmation of canonness. Also most designs are identical so...

People read waaay to much in to Shin falling at Rumooshs elephant noise. Maybe they have better hearing/senses like Piccolo does (see non canon whistling in lord slug hurting Piccolo just as an example) Maybe he happened to be less braced or balanced at the time, either randomly or because Goku has ...

I think this criticism from Toriyama was in an interview (where he's talking to Toyotaro), and it was his suggestions for Toyotaro to improve, it wasn't something done in the media to complain about manga problems (which I'm not saying doesn't exist, Toriyama also said he wanted Toyotaro to use mor...

Kefla. Gohan is a super prodigy with potential far outside goku and geets. He has the most precedent for random power ups and he's had a ritual done which is supposed to make him max power all the time. Kale and Cauli are not overly buffed in the manga, they are new young saiyans. Freeza was confide...

It fits that a 20 year+ more experienced Cell would be able to overcome Babidi's magic eventually. I wonder if Babidi's mind control magic is powerful enough to control higher level beings like the gods or Buus. According to Xenoverse 1, not even higher level magic users kind do such a thing, let a...

Goku isn’t a reliable person. He has never seen Beerus at his max. If it was Whis who claimed this, then I would put more stock into what he said. Whis did train Beerus, Goku and Vegeta. So until said otherwise, I give it to Jiren. Since he was the only person to push Goku and Vegeta to reach new h...

No, it was the promotion material. They always say that for every villain. But by feats, as of now, Jiren is above Broly and Gogeta blue’s PL. GOKU did say he is (might be?) Stronger than Beerus. And Even if we assume Jiren is stronger than all the gods incl. Beerus it's not miles more, yet Blueget...