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by ABED
Sun Mar 29, 2026 4:14 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 212
Views: 5374

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?

I'm fine with the trope. It works very well from the Piccolo Daimao arc through the Freeza arc, but that's it. Toriyama does it TWICE in the same arc and somehow it works both times. It's not nearly as effective in the Cell arc nor the Buu arc. In the Buu arc, when Goku returns to the battlefield ...
by ABED
Sun Mar 29, 2026 6:49 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 212
Views: 5374

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?


Vegeeta's no.1 speech came out of nowhere. Upon seeing Gokuu again after returning to Earth, he was pissed off because Gokuu withheld SS3 from him. He refuses to fuse with him and crushes the Potala after they split inside of Boohan. Then, during SS3 Gokuu's fight with Pure Boo, he's suddenly in ...
by ABED
Sat Mar 28, 2026 3:15 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?
Replies: 212
Views: 5374

Re: How do you feel about the trope where everyone waits for Goku?



I'd argue Vegeta's arc was already complete with his sacrifice and willingly dooming himself to Hell to fix his own screw up. I wish it stuck.


Or do what the Fusion movie did and have come back to help stop Boo and then return to the next world.

I do think it was necessary for Vegeta to help ...
by ABED
Sat Feb 28, 2026 9:40 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Viewing Order
Replies: 20
Views: 4015

Dragon Ball Viewing Order

Every so often I like to ask the question if someone already hasn't, what is your viewing order for the series? it's gotten even more interesting as the shows have expanded.

Right now, I like the idea of the branching paths:
Dragon Ball > DBZ > DBGT
Kai > Super

I'm not sure where to put Daima. I ...
by ABED
Wed Feb 25, 2026 11:38 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 15471
Views: 2333594

Re: Unpopular DB opinions


I find the dub GT score to unmemorable for the most part, whereas GT's score is one of the biggest positives of the series.

What tracks would you say convey action or tension the best?

I have a theory that most people with a positive view of the original GT score are only remembering the ...
by ABED
Tue Feb 24, 2026 6:24 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 15471
Views: 2333594

Re: Unpopular DB opinions



Double posting bc the two unpopular takes are so unrelated.

GT is better dubbed with the Menza score, and I say this as someone who prefers the Japanese version for everything else.

The corny dated approach actually improves GT and sometimes the dub makes legitimate corrections to the plot ...
by ABED
Mon Feb 23, 2026 9:49 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 15471
Views: 2333594

Re: Unpopular DB opinions


Is Broly a good movie? Probably not, no, because it's hard not to see how much better it could have been if it followed through on pretty basic parts of storytelling.

This is a problem I have with the majority of stories we've gotten since the Buu arc: I feel like I could have done a better job ...
by ABED
Mon Feb 23, 2026 5:28 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 15471
Views: 2333594

Re: Unpopular DB opinions



I'll take Super Hero any day of the week over Broly. Broly is a boring movie and the animation while good can't make up for the really week story. The action isn't good enough, either. It's just so lame that Broly gets so insanely strong because he has a temper tantrum.
Bruh. Super: Broly's an ...
by ABED
Sat Feb 21, 2026 12:09 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 15471
Views: 2333594

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

I'll take Super Hero any day of the week over Broly. Broly is a boring movie and the animation while good can't make up for the really week story. The action isn't good enough, either. It's just so lame that Broly gets so insanely strong because he has a temper tantrum.
by ABED
Wed Feb 11, 2026 7:52 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How many times have you seen the anime?
Replies: 13
Views: 2299

Re: How many times have you seen the anime?

Too many to count, and it's not all even. I watched what I had access to. I don't know how many times I watched the Ocean dub episodes, and I likely watched those 2 Captain Ginyu tapes over and over as I was just happy to have Dragon Ball Z back.
by ABED
Fri Feb 06, 2026 5:54 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 5323
Views: 1084541

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions


I like nice animation, but that takes time. I'm more than fine with the tradeoff of animation quality and episode count.

I agree to a degree. If I had to pick between a show that was a 10/10 in terms of art and animation, but was only 12 episodes long, or a show that's art and animation was an ...
by ABED
Thu Feb 05, 2026 11:18 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 5323
Views: 1084541

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

I like nice animation, but that takes time. I'm more than fine with the tradeoff of animation quality and episode count. Since they are redoing Super, I'm okay with the slimmer episode count but I hope that's not what will go on with the Moro and Granola arcs.
by ABED
Fri Jan 30, 2026 7:49 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 15471
Views: 2333594

Re: Unpopular DB opinions


Professional writers would say filler isn't a thing. It's a fanmade term. I'm sure that's true and it likely started in anime fan circles. Then it got latched onto every other show as shows became more serialized. Now I fear those that grew up using it are becoming professional writers and think ...
by ABED
Thu Jan 29, 2026 11:32 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 15471
Views: 2333594

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

I enjoy the TV version of Battle of Gods. I like the expanded material. I could watch Beerus and Whis all day, so stopping the fight to have Beerus and Goku talk is something I find enjoyable. Better than cutaways to whatever Chichi was doing.
by ABED
Thu Jan 29, 2026 5:44 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 15471
Views: 2333594

Re: Unpopular DB opinions




I am mega pro filler episodes. I know filler episodes can be annoying when you are waiting for canon episodes, but filler can be fun and even great and iconic. Mr Robot anyone? That's why I dont think Super:Beerus should have the bare minimum amount of episodes, it should have the amount ...
by ABED
Wed Jan 28, 2026 5:53 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku and Vegeta as Marital Artists
Replies: 12
Views: 11276

Re: Goku and Vegeta as Marital Artists

Goku lowering his guard in certain situations doesn't bother me. He does strike me as a person who given how powerful he's gotten he might not be as careful around a peon like Sorbet. The issue I have is he has God Ki and a pea shooter nearly kills him?

Otherwise, I agree. While I like Super a lot ...
by ABED
Mon Jan 26, 2026 10:05 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 15471
Views: 2333594

Re: Unpopular DB opinions


Eh, I never really bought this - it's possible to do both things at once. It's not exactly a coincidence that Movies 2 and 3's soundtracks are more low-key, creepy and atmospheric, movies 5 and (especially) 6 are sci-fi flavored, or that Movies 9-11 have a more dark, horror-esque vibe. The ...
by ABED
Mon Jan 26, 2026 7:33 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 15471
Views: 2333594

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

I can appreciate great animation as much as the next person, but I'd rather TV be TV and not go for the best quality animation. I don't care about Super looking better. I'd rather have more episodes.
by ABED
Sun Jan 25, 2026 8:40 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku and Vegeta as Marital Artists
Replies: 12
Views: 11276

Goku and Vegeta as Marital Artists

I haven't read the Super Manga, but I've seen the all the shows and movies and will undoubtedly watch the upcoming shows, and one thing struck me - it seems like Super is trying to reframe Vegeta as the technically superior fighter. Maybe I'm wrong, but it doesn't mesh with my understanding of the ...
by ABED
Thu Jan 22, 2026 8:03 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 5323
Views: 1084541

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

I haven't read any of the lore books and don't recall what Toriyama might have said on the subject, but I find the idea of Super Saiyan levels being necessary to reach the next level more interesting than the base having no upper limit and each transformation being a bigger and bigger multiplier.