Kanzenshuu

(SSJ3 Vegetto/SSJ3 Gogeta or non-canon SSJ4 Gogeta) Please, here in Kanzenshuu no matter whether is canon or not. The important thing is to discuss. Sorry and do not misunderstand me but it is annoying!! I see no difference between God ki and normal ki other than the fact that God Ki can't be sense...

Because Goku thinks more as a fighter and every fighter does not teach all his techniques to everyone!

Kakarot is more a fighter than a father. It is more a fighter than a friend. It is more a fighter than a husband.

Come on men, even the sound emitted when Cell is walking is terrific and incredible!

Even knowing the background history of Cell and his transformations I would still have to say that I find Cell a compelling villain. And then we wouldn't have had the fantastic battle between Gohan and Cell which would have been such a loss! That fight is one of the worst in all DB. Cell Saga have ...

I know is your opinion but you got to be kidding me!

In my opinion, Cell is one of the best villains in DB and one of the best Sagas. Cold Skin summarized very well. So, thank God that Toriyama brought Cell.

It doesn't matter, DBAF is a fan history I'm not saying that Toyble's AF is canon, or that it matters, I'm saying I imagine the whole situation between Goku & Shenlong as we saw it in AF because it fits perfectly (but everything else in AF are irrelevant). It is implied in GT that Goku & Sh...

Well, maybe that means that he died but is not explicit at all and because of that, we do not really know for sure (that was the intention). IMO, what happens in Toyble's DBAF fits perfectly It doesn't matter, DBAF is a fan history and Toyble puts a halo on Goku meaning he is dead!! I always believ...

Nope, Goku isn't immortal, he is dead according to Masako Nozawa. The scene where, after Goku finishes fighting, he rides on Shenlong, and says, “Shenlong’s back sure is warm…”. That’s because riding on Shenlong means that Goku’s going to leave this world, and go to the world of the gods…. I was gl...

Legendary Super Saiya-jin ( Densetsu no Sûpâ Saiyajin ) only Broly is able to use this form. "Legendary" form seems most similar to USSJ2, with disappearing pupils and ridiculously large muscle bulk. The benefits of this stage are much different from the USSJ stages, however... that being ...

Everything you said about Vegeta is bull!! I mean really you say you like Vegeta but then spu this garbage. :crazy: Umm he let Cell attain perfection because he wanted a better fight and to see if he could take him... Hello!!! There is no garbage in my words about Vegeta, I don't know what you mean...

I didn't forget, yes Goku trains very hard, but he's also handed everything on a silver platter, and for the dumbest reasons, because like I said he's the protaganist, the main character, the star whatever you want to call him nothing more then that!! Mmm you don't understand Kakarotto as a charact...

I like Vegeta too and although it has evolved as a character, I think he deserves more but in his badass mode!

I disagree, Vegeta trains hard, and the only reason Goku's supposedly stronger, is because toriyama wrote it that way and gave Goku SSSJ3, and he only gave it to Goku because he's the protaganist. If Vegeta becomes the the protaganist in this movie he should be the stronger of the two. Yes, Vegeta ...

But you opinion & Toei's TV Special contradict Toriyama's Jaco, and I place Toriyama above Toei or fans when it comes to the manga. What you say applies to the anime, not to the manga. Toriyama: Yes, Bardock certainly was born from the anime. However, I don’t remember the particulars of how it ...

[*] Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods has Planet Vegeta destroyed 39 years ago, and Goku is 41 years old, while the TV Special gives Planet Vegeta's destruction & Goku's birth the same date. It also shows Vegeta as a kid having the same hairstyle he has as an adult, instead of having a different ha...

[*]According to Toriyama, Saiyans get promoted in ranks, but while Bardock was very strong for a low-class, he wasn't strong enough to get a promotion, meaning that his battle power can't be at nearly 10.000, as it's stated in the TV Special.[/list] This is crazy! In the TV special, is stated that ...

No, I am not kidding. Goku, Vegeta, and Vegetto were absolutely toxic and nearly ruined the Majin Buu arc. You'd be happier if SSJ3 Gotenks would have beat Super Buu to finish the Majin Boo arc earlier? The thing goes: SSJ Goku destroyed Freeza. SSJ2 Gohan destroyed Cell. SSJ3 Gotenks destroyed Sup...

He constantly puts his enjoyment of fights over everything else. -Letting Vegeta go almost doomed earth as he would have returned before Goku healed. If Freeza didn't know about the Dragon Balls, earth would have been screwed. -He could have killed Freeza instantly as an SSJ and saved Planet Namek....

Him being the main character is qutie arguable, which is why I don't like when people keep trying to use that as a justification. He's barley in most of the post-Raditz series, and in the end him being sloppily rewritten as the main character really dragged the series down. Dragged the series down?...

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Id have to say yes.

The boys went SSJ3 as Gotenks and neither of them even had SSJ2.

Gogeta is made up of Goku and Vegeta, both of whom have SSJ2 and one having SSJ3. Id say SSJ3 for Gogeta would be incredibly easy for him.

Same here!! Gogeta would reach the SSJ3 easy!