Kanzenshuu

redon wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:22 pm Another picture I can share from chapter 74, it's the last panel of the chapter

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Never doubted you. Thanks Redon.

Are we sure Toshio understands the question? Whether it's (red) God form or SSBLUE form? I understand a picture is provided for him but maybe to him "God" is a umbrella term for SSBlue and SSGod. I'm speculating here of course. Personally I'm cool with SSGod form coming back. Shocked, but cool with ...

This new form I think will be Kaioken related, Toei keep marketing it and we've seen Goku use in 3 times already in this arc. Plus you know all the red, does he permanently fuse SSGSS with KK and create the new form that way?

Doubt it. If Goku does that, then it's an intermediate form at best ...

This new form I think will be Kaioken related, Toei keep marketing it and we've seen Goku use in 3 times already in this arc. Plus you know all the red, does he permanently fuse SSGSS with KK and create the new form that way?

Doubt it. If Goku does that, then it's an intermediate form at best ...

Not sure if anyone here has seen this, but:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DF_EVkuV0AADd0-.jpg

Bottom left, if you look closely you can see Goku's apparent new transformation, crimson hair.
I saw this. It was very interesting. Isn't this for like a Valentine's Day catalog for 2018? Seems pretty ...

Not sure if anyone here has seen this, but:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DF_EVkuV0AADd0-.jpg

Bottom left, if you look closely you can see Goku's apparent new transformation, crimson hair.
[spoiler]If this really is just "Super Saiyan Blue but actually red hair now", I wonder if it's taking some ...

Not sure if anyone here has seen this, but:



Bottom left, if you look closely you can see Goku's apparent new transformation, crimson hair.

Since you want to argue that Base Goku is no longer God Tier, then I want you to explain in the simplest possible way how he was not immediately erased by Sidra's Hakai energy. Take your time. It was only 10 or so episodes ago. Then, explain how he was able to keep up with Golden Freeza's speed ...

Ok that's good enough for me. I concede on that particular point.

We've already gone over that one. According to the translation crew around these parts, the contextual meaning is that Gohan meant his best at that point, right then and there.

Also, thematically, it makes sense that he means this because he flat-out stated he couldn't access his full power, and ...

SSB Goku is evenly matched with True Golden Frieza. If the original SS multipliers (50/100/400x) still apply, Base Goku would at least probably be 500x weaker than his SSB form, which is a HUGE gap. Either:

1. Goku doesn't need to actually be God Tier to keep up with Frieza's speed (maybe Frieza ...

Since you want to argue that Base Goku is no longer God Tier, then I want you to explain in the simplest possible way how he was not immediately erased by Sidra's Hakai energy. Take your time. It was only 10 or so episodes ago. Then, explain how he was able to keep up with Golden Freeza's speed ...

In fact, I watched the episode back and I have concluded that a good portion of the Troopers, if not all of them are also in the Base-God range.

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18 is Base-God Tier and so are the Troopers.

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Prove it. Your disbelief argument isn't going to fly I'm afraid. Find me statements ...

Because Dragon Ball Super's in-battle indicators are pretty shoddy, there are only a few sure-fire indicators you can go by to assess whether fighters are comparable or not. The best indicator is without question: damage. If you inflict a hefty amount of damage which leads to wounds and heavy ...

Load of excuses.

In fact, I watched the episode back and I have concluded that a good portion of the Troopers, if not all of them are also in the Base-God range.


Yes, he wants to conserve energy by getting the shit kicked out of him. Makes sense.

He was in no immediate danger, but even then ...

The sheer amount of proof is by far in favour of Base Goku/Vegeta being far, far stronger than people want them to be. Sorry.

When you consider the fact that conserving energy in this tournament is important and the idea that Goku regularly holds back it's fairly easy to conclude that he wasn't ...

The sheer amount of proof is by far in favour of Base Goku/Vegeta being far, far stronger than people want them to be. Sorry.

When you consider the fact that conserving energy in this tournament is important and the idea that Goku regularly holds back it's fairly easy to conclude that he wasn't ...

No, I very much enjoy participating in them, as deconstructing an argument is akin to completing a puzzle for me. If there was a "hivemind", then these forums would have died a long time ago, it is because people disagree that you are even in a position to discuss the series here with a large ...

I think people are forgetting the big thing here. Omni King wants to be impressed. No-one is allowed to just quit. That's what makes this so interesting. If he is not impressed with your performance he might go ahead anyway and destroy your universe. In which case, Goku has no choice but to fight ...

He destroyed all 12 universes which is why he was in a literal void. Neutral space between universes looks like regular space as seen with the U6 tournament, but there was.. nothing. And he was doing nothing when they go there. Which implies that he had nowhere to go. Cue his excitement with the ...