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Doing a "What if Baby possessed Gohan instead of Vegeta" what-if could make a neat counterpart to the Gohan Black one.

taikufuru wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:51 pmI think you meant "778" and "780".

...Yes, yes I do. Fixed.

I would prefer to spend a week watching roadkill decay in real time than ever take in another episode or chapter of Super again.

But that aside, a slice-of-life manga focusing on post-Z Gohan being a family man sounds like a lot of fun. But I don't trust anyone officially at the helm of modern DB ...

It's actually somewhat of a misconception that Bra was born before Pan. Her entry in Daizenshuu 7's character dictionary labeled her as being born in Age 778, the year before Pan, but the general timeline in that same book and every other source outside it correctly lists her as born in 780 instead ...

I'll always enjoy classic Dragon Ball. I can always pick up the original manga, the various movies, GT, and so forth and have a good time with them. But modern Dragon Ball decisively lost me years ago after I already gave it way more chances than it deserved. And I don't see any hypothetical future ...

Changes to lore and in-universe "rules" are fine and inoffensive when they A) have adequate in-universe reasoning for happening, and B) are done for the sake of actually telling a good story.

Super typically wasn't interested in doing either of those things.

I've got a fun headcanon explanation for Mini Shin being weaker than everyone else: god-ki.

I like to think that god-ki is something you can only gain and use if you're already substantially powerful by mortal standards. That's why "lower" gods like Dende and the four Kaio can't use it (even ...

Gohan won in the end not because his half-power was still greater than Cell's full-power, but because he managed to briefly summon his own power back, plus probably some extra, in the clutch to still overcome him anyway. Because that's how climactic shonen battle manga finales work. I know the trend ...

No it's not. Gohan is consistently and distinctly labeled as as a half-and-half Earthling-Saiyan hybrid, as something that's a major part of his character and role in the story. Tenshinhan, on the other hand, is never treated as anything other than an Earthling with a particular quirk. Even the ...

Tenshinhan not being an "ordinary" Earthling — which is a given, what with the whole third eye thing — doesn't mean he's not still an Earthling regardless and taken into account when Kuririn is labeled the strongest one.

Start with something that's as short and self-contained as possible and requires little-to-no prior knowledge of the series, like one of the earlier DB/Z movies. Just to see if they dig the general tone and feel of the show.

Then if they're interested, point them to the original manga. It's the ...

The entire original 1986-1997 DB/Z/GT/Movies run, of course. Accept no half-assed derivative substitutes. Gonna also throw the 2008 Tarble OVA in with it as an honorable mention, though.

The design of Real SS4 from GT uses a mix of colors (black hair, red fur, and gold eyes in Goku's case) which makes the form visually striking and something very unique. Fake SS4 from Daima and its uniform all-magenta appearance just makes it look like a lazy recolor, right alongside all the other ...

I'm gonna cheat and insist that regular ol' Great Ape and Super Saiyan still have to exist as common starting points for everyone, and then they diverge from there.

Goku : Super Saiyan 4 ( real SS4 from GT of course) , bringing back Great Ape and combining it with Super Saiyan to create a new ...

Cybersai wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:15 amThey had a chance this time to make Super Saiyan 4 something different...and chose not to? Doesn't help we have the God and Blue forms in Super now that use the original Saiyan hairstyle too.

After the parade of samey forms in Super, why would you suddenly expect an iota of originality now?

If your conclusion about a story relies on claiming that characters are straight-up lying without anything in said story actually saying they're lying, then it should be a pretty big sign that you're on the wrong track.

Peach wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:55 pmToriyama did a sketch of SS4 Goku with black hair in the past.

Yeah, for the GT Dragon Box. Which was like 20 years ago by this point.

I suddenly started wondering... what if the reason this new Fake SS4 form is all uniformly magenta-colored is because Toriyama happened to catch a glimpse of the glowy upgraded "Limit Breaker" version from Heroes at some point, and was so checked-out that he mistakenly thought those were Real SS4's ...

The real Bardock is interesting because he was a contrast to Goku, not in any way an inspiration or support for him. He's a tragic antihero character and an unapologetically murderous bastard who was punished for his sins. The final blow was a vision in his dying moments, rebuking him one last time ...

Fake Bardock, fake Broly, and now fake Ssj4 are worse in every way compared to their classic counterparts, so hopefully they don't ruin anything else. Also; can we please start demanding more original content from this franchise ? Has everyone forgotten what a breath of fresh air Battle of Gods ...