Kanzenshuu

Oh i get it, toei. This is not the real fight, so it simply doesn't matter.

jeffbr92 wrote:

Kenneth La Torre wrote:Goku Jobbed more than once too.

When in this arc?

Kale.
Jiren.

Goku was the jobber? Goku will most likely defeat Jiren or at least take it to a draw. As for Vegeta, how does it matter that he made it to the finals? They've just done him dirty, that's all. People wanted him to last after EP.126, because they didn't expect Toei to let him job again xD. They were...

Liquir wrote:Jiren - 129 Preview Image
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That is creepy as all hell.

Because if Toei had balls, they would let Vegeta NOT be the jobber for freaking once, but hey, what should I expect from them except for generic writing? Goku was the jobber here, man. And had Vegeta gone out in 126, people would have conplained that he isn't in the finak battle. I know this becaus...

I suppose that's true from a relativistic standpoint. Me? I find the traditional combat mechanics system to have become adulterated with mostly just a pretense of what people describe as technical aptitude. It's a universalised and streamlined method of choreography that can only be dressed up and ...

Ultra instinct has not been shown to increase his power. Case in point, 110 and when he fought kefla. 17 says it but its not shown and since this is anime, show beats tell. That being said, this is how he got it before so it is not contradictory and does make sense with you know your body moving by...

Frankly, I would have likely preferred Jiren getting taken out by some clever elimination tactic involving what Goku initially attempted during their rematch or by using the Mafuba. Yes, it's terribly uneventful, but it sounds more original than Goku simply having one last grandiose pummeling match...

You said I made untintelligent claims - which would mean the same as calling me an idiot You sound like a condescending tool - which means you are calling me a tool. Anyways people don't take criticisms cause they are blind fanboys who deflect any criticism with: "zee nostalgia" " it...

Great, Goku gets a full power attack from Jiren and what happens? He gets stronger ... this is not zenkai. It will happen the same thing happened on EP 110, in which he was swallowed by a Genki Dama and returned with a technique that neither the Gods dominate. Ultra instinct has not been shown to i...

I'm the condescending tool? You are the idiot who makes blanket statements about how goku is the best and yada yada everyday. Just cause some of us use our brains and aren't dumb fanboys like you means you can't discuss. Then again your favorite character has an IQ of 10 so you aren't any different...

I'm shocked an a goku fanboy thinks goku's bs is justified but not vegeta's. Absolutely stunned yo. :yawn: So sad, I have to add another poor soul to my list of people not to take seriously on this site because they say unintelligent things actually, I think you were already on it. If you find Goku...

Great, Goku gets a full power attack from Jiren and what happens? He gets stronger ... this is not zenkai. It will happen the same thing happened on EP 110, in which he was swallowed by a Genki Dama and returned with a technique that neither the Gods dominate. Ultra instinct has not been shown to i...

DBS 129 Preview Herms: https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/969762930269995013 [spoiler] https://i.imgur.com/JqBd6lz.jpg [/spoiler] Great, Goku gets a full power attack from Jiren and what happens? He gets stronger ... this is not zenkai. It will happen the same thing happened on EP 110, in which he ...

The only reason why these U6 saiyans didn't already have super saiyan is because vegeta had to teach cabba something.

Man, these are really animation friendly, though.

Anyway, the reason people hate it is because of the simplicity, I know its not because of age because dragon Ball characters have always looked younger than they really are.

Right, so I can listen to this fandom bitch about saiyans having all the spotlight again.

The manga is looking much worse, IMO. Seems like all the random fights will be gone or brushed over. Willing to bet we see Krillin, Piccolo and Tien do even less here than the anime... I'm also willing to bet Gohan and Roshi won't get as much focus as they did in the anime. Thats what people wanted...

The manga is looking much worse, IMO. Seems like all the random fights will be gone or brushed over. Willing to bet we see Krillin, Piccolo and Tien do even less here than the anime... I'm also willing to bet Gohan and Roshi won't get as much focus as they did in the anime. Thats what people wanted...

People keep saying the 'writers don't talk to each other in Super' when they clearly do and even then, they don't have control what happens in the episode. That's the director of the show. They just put together what happens. And Toyo being 'one writer working closely with Toriyama' doesn't mean th...