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How would the rest of DBZ and Super play out, if, instead of fusing with Kami before confronting Cell, Piccolo gets his potential unleashed and Orange form? Obviously he'd be stronger than normal at first, but I'm interested in how the rest of the series would play out Orange piccolo would probably...

I'm making a power hierarchy list, and assuming the movies continuity has all power references referring to the TOP era DB and DBS: Broly. Meaning Gamma 1 and 2 are about the same power as TOP SSJB Goku and Vegeta, since that's where they capped in the Broly movie. Using this, I'm placing Final Goh...

Now that I have the novelization for the exact wording as a reference, my translation of the Jiren lines from the film, which seemed most relevant to this thread: Vegeta: “Looks like you don’t get it. Jiren and that incredible, overwhelming might of his... His true strength wasn’t all that far off ...

I think people are misunderstanding the Jiren statement. It doesn’t mean he wasn’t very powerful and from what I heard he often compared or in the same sentence as that of Broly and Gods of destruction. So Toriyama still thinks Jiren is a formidable warrior. I think what Vegeta was stating that by t...

1st form Freeza [RoF arc] vs Good Boo. No magic or absorption. Final form Freeza [RoF arc] vs Super Boo [Gohan absorbed]. No magic or absorption. Base Vegetto [Zamasu arc] vs Base Kefla. No time limit or transformations. SSB Vegetto [Zamasu arc] vs SSBE Vegeta [Top arc; EP 126]. SSB Gogeta [Broly] ...

What if Piccolo and Gohan got the power boost they got in the new film (including transformations) for the tournament of power, but for whatever reason Goku and Vegeta couldn't participate. And let's say Goten and Trunks rounded the team count back to ten. Can they still win? How do they fare again...

Wait are they still saying ToP Jiren is relevant to current Goku and Vegeta? Vegeta apparently states that the gap between Goku and Vegeta during the ToP wasn't even that large, and that Jirens advantage came from thinking clearly and making hardly any unnecessary movements. Whis applauds Vegeta an...

I'm confused what this means for the continuity. 1) Gohan still has to learn how to use his Ultimate Form again, even though he knew how to do it in the ToP both in the manga and anime. 2) Broly and Jiren are mentioned as if they were the most recent events, rather than Moro and Granolah, even thou...

Super Hero Spoilers: Seems like the people who think Goku and Vegeta grew many times stronger during the ToP were in fact wrong based on what Vegeta says about Jiren's power in comparison to theirs. The gap wasn't big. I am sorry. I miss read what you wrote. You saying that the saiyans didn’t grow ...

Piccolo looks cool. So glad he has some new forms. As I am Gohan. Everyone has their own colors now. Lol.

Goku: UI (Silver)
Vegeta: UE (Purple)
Broly: FP Ssj (green)
Gohan: Final Form (white)
Piccolo: Potential Unlocked (orange)

id say no more like vegeta thinks they can catch up to him thats its not impossible if they train diffrently whis agrees but for all we know jiren has been training and is far stronger than he was in the TOP So they comparing themselves at that moment to top Jiren!? yeah but i doubt either party kn...

only thing was Vegeta has a theory that the gap between Jiren & them (goku/vegeta) was not as wide as they intitially thought seems it was because Jiren was more focused and precise in his fighting technique so they nerfed him? id say no more like vegeta thinks they can catch up to him thats it...

ObnoxiousNamek wrote: ↑Fri Jun 10, 2022 6:43 pm

Berserker1921 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 10, 2022 6:38 pm What was said about Jiren. Any big retcons there?

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only thing was Vegeta has a theory that the gap between Jiren & them (goku/vegeta) was not as wide as they intitially thought seems it was because Jiren was more focused and precise in his fighting technique

What was said about Jiren. Any big retcons there?

Super Hero Spoilers: Seems like the people who think Goku and Vegeta grew many times stronger during the ToP were in fact wrong based on what Vegeta says about Jiren's power in comparison to theirs. The gap wasn't big. Vegeta is either too egotistical to admit it.that Goku and Vegeta were nothing t...

Super Hero Spoilers: Seems like the people who think Goku and Vegeta grew many times stronger during the ToP were in fact wrong based on what Vegeta says about Jiren's power in comparison to theirs. The gap wasn't big. Vegeta is either too egotistical to admit it.that Goku and Vegeta were nothing t...

What if Frost was born in Universe 7 and Frieza's younger brother? (obviously not the same absurd DBS levels of power - just the same character) Well…one of two things would happen to ol frost. He’d probably be killed by Frieza at one point. Or would be forced under stronger/older brother’s foot. A...

It should be used as a garden for the senzu beans. They take what a year or so to grow. To grow like 3-5 on a plant? Imagine if Korin could access that room for his plants? He could grow hundreds in a year. Instead of 10-20?

How strong do you think Gas' unleashed form makes him? Bardock took a hell of a beating and was still standing, so it shouldn't put Gas on Dodoria's or Kiwi's level. Gas was going for the W, not messing around. After Bardock's power up, where do you guys place him? on his son's level during the sai...