Except it's perfectly logical to use a form that takes less energy against foes who don't need a stronger to be fought against. Like 17. It's a decent way to gauge the strength of an opponent to the reader as well. It's not obsolete if the amount of energy it consumes isn't an issue and it can be used against weaker opponents. By your logic everything that isn't SSB is obsolete.Noah wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:50 pmBecause is a freaking obsolete form? I get it that SSJ3 is somewhat cool, but it doesn't make sense to use nowadays, the same thing to SSJ2. Toyotaro should just kept with Toriyama thoughts about Goku only using SSJ, God and Blue which is more logical to the present days.Dragon Wukong wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:58 pm Why do people want SS3 to be unusable? The stamina isn't an issue as an SS3 anymore for Goku, especially since SSB was outright stated to have a ridiculous stamina toll in the manga, and he managed to overcome that too.
Sometimes it feels like people get mad just because they dislike SS3 and don't want it to be used anymore, so they cling to ideas of in-universe justifications for it not to be used anymore.
If I may interject, the anime's hectic schedule wouldn't really allow for Toriyama to be as involved as he could be with the manga. If I recall it was the Dragon Room that was supposed to fix this at some point, though I recall reading the Tournament of Power still had issues. Throughout the manga however Toriyama has drawn entire pages, we've been outright shown he'll correct several pages worth of dialogue in a chapter if he feels there's an issue or someone is out of character. And he stated that certain events, such as Vegeta going Super Saiyan God in the manga, were intimately supervised by him.
If you wanna argue about canon though, the DBS anime recognizes filler that only happened in the anime, such as Ginyu stealing Bulma's body or Gregory's entire existence. Neither of these things can really exist in a true continuity of the Dragon Ball manga, otherwise there's several massive holes. The DBS manga ignores these events and filler, so at the very least I'd consider it a proper successor to the manga continuity of Dragon Ball, while the DBS anime can be considered one to the anime. Dragon Ball's publisher Shueisha has at least stated they consider the DBS manga to be the official continuation of the Dragon Ball manga anyways. That's my opinion though. Try not to be antagonistic just because you dislike the manga though.