Why is Piccolo Considered "The Black Guy"?

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Why is Piccolo Considered "The Black Guy"?

Post by Lunatic Fringe » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:33 pm

Something that's kinda been, I guess, "bothering" me since I really started delving into the Dragon Ball internet fandom is the notion that Piccolo is...well, black. Your mileage may vary on what the term necessarily means but keep in mind that "Piccolo being the black guy" is basically a meme along with Krillin being the most useless, Yamcha's first death being hilariously pathetic, Popo being a racist caricature, etc so it's safe to say that it's not something that you're supposed to approach with a studious curiosity. Now, as I mentioned before, this meme "bothers" me. Not because I find it offensive but because I can't understand where or how it came about. I think about every black stereotype out there and I can't find anyway to connect the dots as to how this meme makes any sense. Is folding his arms and scowling all the time really what makes Piccolo "black"? I mean, I understand that the other memes I've referenced come about from a lack of understanding about how the original version plays out since I'm willing to bet that most American viewers that religiously watched DBZ from '99 to '03 on Toonami, like I did, had that as their first experience and therefore, didn't understand just how much Yamcha dying meant to the series or that Krillin had actually come a long way since his debut in the Dragon Ball anime. But even taking that casual, FUNi perspective into consideration, nothing comes up as to how Piccolo being "black" makes any sense. How did this come about? How did it get to be so prominent? I'm really at a loss here and I'd appreciate it if some in the know could shed some light on this cryptic concept.

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Re: Why is Piccolo Considerd "The Black Guy"?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:39 pm

7 feet tall, good at basketball, deep voice, is a playa, and one of the hardest muthafuckas' of the Z-Warriors.
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Re: Why is Piccolo Considerd "The Black Guy"?

Post by Lunatic Fringe » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:49 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:7 feet tall, good at basketball, deep voice, is a playa, and one of the hardest muthafuckas' of the Z-Warriors.
I'm pretty sure he'd be good at basketball. He wouldn't even have to move to block someone from making a shot.

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On another note, that get-up MIGHT be where it all started but the way I've seen it talked about, it stems from actually examining his character and coming to the "black" conclusion.

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Re: Why is Piccolo Considerd "The Black Guy"?

Post by Soppa Saia People » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:51 pm

I've never heard of this but of all the "black stereotypes" I've heard he really only fits one (a deep voice).
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Re: Why is Piccolo Considerd "The Black Guy"?

Post by TheBigBoy » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:54 pm

Well he did release that album of slow jams in that one filler episode...it was considered too hot and heavy for the English release though.

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Re: Why is Piccolo Considerd "The Black Guy"?

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:14 pm

Because in one episode of DBZ, he dressed up like Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air:

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Re: Why is Piccolo Considerd "The Black Guy"?

Post by Akumaito Beam » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:48 pm

I could be off base but I think it's probably due to black fans of this franchise being hard up for representation. That is to say, Piccolo's race is abstract so it's easy to project any race on him. I've heard similar diatribes about how Freeza represents the white man and how the Saiyans are black people. Art can be interpreted in many different ways. That being said I'm the whitest fucking person you'll ever meet so take my opinion on this with a grain of salt.

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Re: Why is Piccolo Considerd "The Black Guy"?

Post by Cipher » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:57 pm

Shit, if you really want to get into it, I'd venture an enormous guess it has to do with Sabat's deep voice and some really problematic stereotypes, and Piccolo being the only visually different, skin-tone-wise, character among a standard "anime-white" cast.

Those, and WeeklyTubeShow's less problematic, genuinely hilarious YouTube videos.

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Post by precita » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:58 pm

This topic is rather shady because its like saying all Nameks are black.

Do you consider Kami to be black? Dende? King Piccolo? All the other Nameks? Why should Piccolo be considered black and not his entire race?

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Post by Herms » Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:36 pm

Is this really a thing? I don't think I've ever encountered it before.
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Post by B » Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:40 pm

The only thing I've ever seen that perpetrated this was WeeklyTubeShow, and that is obviously a joke. Then again, I do not venture outside of Kanzenshuu too hard. The "I'm Just Saiyan" crowd is what I fear.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:41 pm

It could be his English voice that give people the idea.
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Re: Why is Piccolo Considerd "The Black Guy"?

Post by Saiga » Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:18 pm

Herms wrote:Is this really a thing? I don't think I've ever encountered it before.
I've encountered it a lot, and I'm not just including things like WeeklyTubeShow which is just meant to be random humour.

I've always been confused why this is, but it's probably to do with representation. Piccolo's also idealized a lot by fans, so I'd guess it's not because he's particularly black but because fans apply all these labels like "badass" "strategist" and the like to him which makes him appealing to identify with.
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Re: Why is Piccolo Considerd "The Black Guy"?

Post by s841 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:19 am

I always thought it was because his skin was like the only one that wasn't white :?:

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Post by precita » Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:38 am

Do people really see the cast as "white?" Aren't they all, you know...Japanese?

I think Bulma, Android 18, and Mr. Satan are some of the few characters who are likely "white" and not Asian.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:45 am

s841 wrote:I always thought it was because his skin was like the only one that wasn't white :?:
Goku (manga), Vegeta, Krillin (manga), Yamcha, Goten (manga), and Trunks aren't white.
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Re: Why is Piccolo Considerd "The Black Guy"?

Post by s841 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:54 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
s841 wrote:I always thought it was because his skin was like the only one that wasn't white :?:
Goku (manga), Vegeta, Krillin (manga), Yamcha, Goten (manga), and Trunks aren't white.
I said their skin not race. Is their skin not white?
Sorry what do you want me to call them? Black? Orange? Blue? Their skin is white. Picolo's isn't. That's my theory on why he's considered "black".
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Re: Why is Piccolo Considerd "The Black Guy"?

Post by Soppa Saia People » Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:58 am

s841 wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:
s841 wrote:I always thought it was because his skin was like the only one that wasn't white :?:
Goku (manga), Vegeta, Krillin (manga), Yamcha, Goten (manga), and Trunks aren't white.
I said their skin not race. Is there skin not white?
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Re: Why is Piccolo Considerd "The Black Guy"?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:23 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:7 feet tall
Black people are shorter than whites on average.
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