Tai Lung wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:45 am
Do not you find it funny that these topics with Goku and another wife are repeated?
that is to say
vegeta, gohan and other characters do not have that debate so often
I will say what I have always said chichi I like and she is a good mother but a good mother can be any other character as bulma and be relevant to help her friends and her husband, their relationship with goku is really bad. they don't support mutually for fight or defeat an enemy like trunks and mai, they have nothing in common unlike gohan and videl in addition thet don't have development compared to 18 and krillin.
no one changes for the sake of the other then yeah ... literally goku could be single and there would not be much difference now.
Dbzfan94 wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:29 pm
In what world do people want Goku to have a harem? What a silly thing to say.
He loves Chichi, and Chichi loves him. Any of the other girls (U6 Saiyans) dont even deserve a second glance.
it's not what the author really says
Since Saiyans are supposed to have no affection for family or friends, does this actually make Vegeta, who holds his family and wife dear, an even stranger (kinder) Saiyan than Goku?
Vegeta, whose pride had been deeply wounded, sought help from Bulma, and little by little, his ruthless personality changed. Nowadays, you certainly might be able to say that. On the other hand, Goku might not have a sense of family members like Gohan and Chi-Chi except as one of his companions.
Goku prefers to stay dead than to return with his family on earth any other person who loves his wife and can not be far from her would do the opposite. we can agree that the topic does not make sense but it does not mean that everything is false the family copcept for a saiyan for goku is not the same for a human and in the same sleeve it has been shown.
and while couples like bulma and vegeta are better developed, the others only seem to be based on food and in they don't have other option than to conform.
No, but I do find it funny you have some sort of vendetta against Goku and Chichi as a couple.
Using Toriyamas comments twenty years after the manga ended doesnt really count much. I look at the original manga and anime only, and going by what I read/watched there, it paints a different picture than Toriyamas Asspull Comment of the Month.
In Japanese culture, it is rude to disagree, especially in interviews. Notice Toriyama’s qualifying statement, ”you certainly might be able to say that” (a little suspicious, huh)? Notice that this interview is an English translation from an Asian language which does not have words directly translatable to English? Toriyama has just as much sense of the word ‘companion’ as Goku supposedly has of Toriyama’s concept of ‘family’.
In Japanese families, the family unit IS your identity. Toriyama is saying that is how Vegeta thinks, while Goku thinks differently. Individualistic culture is mainly in the West, but ironically, falls into Goku’s line of thinking, which is what it means to ‘not have a sense of family…’
Look at he Goten vs Trunks fight. When Goten turns SSJ, Vegeta blames Goku for something Goten did, “that was a cheap shot, Kakarot!!” as if they’re the same person - family unit. And Goku, with an individualistic mindset, completely attributes this to Goten, “hey…don’t yell at ME!”
Goku prefers to stay dead? Did you even watch the Cell saga? He stayed dead for the sake of his family. He sacrificed his life for Gohan and Chichi's well being so they could live in peace without some villain coming to attack the Earth because of Goku. Him being dead and gone took out that possibility. The one day he did come back, Majin Buu was unleashed. If Goku stayed dead that day, Vegeta wouldnt have threw his little temper tantrum, let himself get cotnrolled by Babidi and was the direct cause of Majin Buu being released.
Vegeta and Bulma only got developed in Super because of favortism, in the original series none of the couples really got anything, excluding the wedding filler at the end of DB.