"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:08 pm

Doctor. wrote:Piccolo spammed energy attacks, actually. Tenshinhan and Roshi fired off a bunch of Kikohos and Kamehamehas respectively as well.
Yes but most of them were non lethal (Piccolo's one at the start was merely to woosh some away, Roshi's one handed Kamehameha merely threw some soldiers of the cliff" , and the fact that they took soldiers on, one on one with fists and feet proves that they had intention of prolonging the fight. Roshi even split the soldiers up for everyone saying "that should be enough until Goku and Vegeta get here". Where instead they could have all teamed up and take out the Freeza force in an instant, but they had to prolong the fight because Freeza was being a jackass.

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Post by King Jacku » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:26 pm

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FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:If it is, then nothing would make sense. For this "Golden" form to suddenly to /that/ much of a boost is literally unbelievable.
Nothing made sense from the start. Roshi shouldn't be able to take on Freeza soldiers, Piccolo could've wiped out the Freeza force by himself in 2 seconds, and Kuririn shouldn't be having trouble versing them, etc. And besides, going from getting wrecked against normal Goku, to being equal to SSGSS, Golden Freeza was already a GINORMOUS power boost.
Freeza pointed that they were purposely not killing the Freeza men, thus making it much harder for themselves. Why? Probably to give Goku and Vegeta more time to arrive on Earth by dragging the battle out. Also you mention that Roshi shouldn't be able to fight them but then say that Krillin should have no trouble when Krillin himself hasn't fought in years too, so if Krillin can then Roshi can too.
Are you really implying Roshi is on Krillin's level?... :wtf:

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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:26 pm

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Doctor. wrote:Freeza pointed out that GOHAN was not trying to kill the soldiers. I really dislike this misconception that all of them were sparring the soldiers, it would be extremely out of character to do so (besides Kuririn, I guess).
Yes, Piccolo would pretty much kill them all and don't give a damn about it... In the end, Freeza destroyed his own army, how pitiful
The pitiful part was how it was all a big waste of time. Even Freeza knew it was a waste of time and there was no way his soldiers could win.
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Post by ekrolo2 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:29 pm

That's why it should have been changed from them getting tired to them playing to Freeza's sadism and intentionally pretending they're struggling to stall time for Goku and Vegeta to come there. They can all telepathically communicate with each other so just acting like they're afraid of the army should give Freeza incentive to let his army "play with them" for a bit.
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Post by FutureGohanSSJ2 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:32 pm

King Jacku wrote:
FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:If it is, then nothing would make sense. For this "Golden" form to suddenly to /that/ much of a boost is literally unbelievable.
Nothing made sense from the start. Roshi shouldn't be able to take on Freeza soldiers, Piccolo could've wiped out the Freeza force by himself in 2 seconds, and Kuririn shouldn't be having trouble versing them, etc. And besides, going from getting wrecked against normal Goku, to being equal to SSGSS, Golden Freeza was already a GINORMOUS power boost.
Freeza's forces don't have a highering criteria. Freeza simply gathered whatever soldiers he had left, as well as some new recruits, and headed towards Earth. They could have a Power Level of less than 100 for all you know. Roshi could probably handle the group he was fighting.

And I dunno if you could tell, but literally every Z-Fighter wasn't taking the fight seriously. That is until there was more and more and more soldiers. Than they started to kick it up a bit.

Freeza did mention only Gohan while saying he wasn't going in for the kills, but he didn't say the others weren't. In fact, it's pretty visibly clear that they were all holding back a great deal. At least until they became exhausted.

Ginormous boost, yes. But you could say that Super Saiyan God itself also doesn't make sense because of it's bit of a huge boost.

Fact is, if Gohan who hasn't trained in years is able to keep up with Final Form Freeza... Then Freeza really was never a threat to begin with. The fact that FIRST FORM was enough to literally make Gohan become comatose with a single punch shows his training was intense and more believable that he could take on God Goku in this new Golden Form.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Noah » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:07 pm

Did Freeza learned how to sense Ki in his training?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:44 am

Kuririn's shirt in the 2nd ED; any reason why it says "Tacos"? Or does it say "Jaco" and the image I'm looking at isn't high resolution enough?
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Post by Araki » Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:58 am

Chuquita wrote:Kuririn's shirt in the 2nd ED; any reason why it says "Tacos"? Or does it say "Jaco" and the image I'm looking at isn't high resolution enough?
It's definitely "Tacos".

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Post by Captain Space » Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:23 am

Araki wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Kuririn's shirt in the 2nd ED; any reason why it says "Tacos"? Or does it say "Jaco" and the image I'm looking at isn't high resolution enough?
It's definitely "Tacos".
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ChibiGoku » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:27 am

This is only loosely connected to Dragon Ball Super, but I feel I should follow up with the earlier thing regarding Monster Hunter Stories, since this could be important later down the road.

It seems, according to a recent Anime!Anime! Biz article, it seems though that Fuji TV seems to be planning to expand their anime business, with Monster Hunter Stories playing a part in this. Gaijin Hunter translated most of the article, so it would be worth a read. Sounds like they want to be as aggressive as TV Tokyo in this aspect for the series.

This is in no way connected to Dragon Ball Super, but it's important that this could possibly lead to better things down the road, such as the network potentially giving the series a better time slot down the road, provided this venture is successful. Again, a lot of what if's here, but something to keep an eye on.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:58 am

Doctor. wrote:Freeza pointed out that GOHAN was not trying to kill the soldiers. I really dislike this misconception that all of them were sparring the soldiers, it would be extremely out of character to do so (besides Kuririn, I guess).
Why would Tenshinhan, Kuririn, and Piccolo be unable to kill Freeza's Soldiers?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:04 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Doctor. wrote:Freeza pointed out that GOHAN was not trying to kill the soldiers. I really dislike this misconception that all of them were sparring the soldiers, it would be extremely out of character to do so (besides Kuririn, I guess).
Why would Tenshinhan, Kuririn, and Piccolo be unable to kill Freeza's Soldiers?
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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:25 am

ChibiGoku wrote:This is only loosely connected to Dragon Ball Super, but I feel I should follow up with the earlier thing regarding Monster Hunter Stories, since this could be important later down the road.

It seems, according to a recent Anime!Anime! Biz article, it seems though that Fuji TV seems to be planning to expand their anime business, with Monster Hunter Stories playing a part in this. Gaijin Hunter translated most of the article, so it would be worth a read. Sounds like they want to be as aggressive as TV Tokyo in this aspect for the series.

This is in no way connected to Dragon Ball Super, but it's important that this could possibly lead to better things down the road, such as the network potentially giving the series a better time slot down the road, provided this venture is successful. Again, a lot of what if's here, but something to keep an eye on.
To be honest, I'm surprised that Dragon Ball Super isn't getting similar treatment, although I suppose an actual Dragon Ball Heroes series would receive that sort of treatment. Fully franchising like Monster Hunter Stories is trying to do would be the next logical step for Dragon Ball.
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Post by Captain Space » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:40 am

JulieYBM wrote: To be honest, I'm surprised that Dragon Ball Super isn't getting similar treatment, although I suppose an actual Dragon Ball Heroes series would receive that sort of treatment. Fully franchising like Monster Hunter Stories is trying to do would be the next logical step for Dragon Ball.
When you say "fully franchising", what do you mean exactly? Do you mean coming out with a regularly-scheduled, merchandise-friendly series every year, like other Toei productions (Kamen Rider/Super Sentai/Pretty Cure)?
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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:50 am

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JulieYBM wrote: To be honest, I'm surprised that Dragon Ball Super isn't getting similar treatment, although I suppose an actual Dragon Ball Heroes series would receive that sort of treatment. Fully franchising like Monster Hunter Stories is trying to do would be the next logical step for Dragon Ball.
When you say "fully franchising", what do you mean exactly? Do you mean coming out with a regularly-scheduled, merchandise-friendly series every year, like other Toei productions (Kamen Rider/Super Sentai/Pretty Cure)?
I mean in the context of something like those aforementioned series and Pokemon or Yuugi-Ou! where series are all about pushing new toys, trading cards and video games. Right now Dragon Ball Super isn't exactly overtly advertising anything. It seems very separated from Dragon Ball Heroes, which has practically advertised itself.
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Post by Doctor. » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:52 am

Super has advertisements for Discross and ICCardass when the episode cuts to commercials, doesn't it? That should count.

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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:01 pm

Doctor. wrote:Super has advertisements for Discross and ICCardass when the episode cuts to commercials, doesn't it? That should count.
Yes, however, the next logical step is incorporating this into an animated series that can be aired internationally, like the aforementioned titles are.
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Post by Chuquita » Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:03 pm

I'm happy Super isn't a DBH or Discross series, I wouldn't be watching it if it were. I'm actually really surprised it's a regular ol' show. But then I think, maybe it's not that surprising, since Shueisha has virtually no footprint overseas with either arcade DB game, plus a good chunk of the fanbase is there for nostalgia, not these spin off arcade games that turn fans' favourite characters into yugioh monsters or pokemon.
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Post by Captain Space » Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:12 pm

JulieYBM wrote: I mean in the context of something like those aforementioned series and Pokemon or Yuugi-Ou! where series are all about pushing new toys, trading cards and video games. Right now Dragon Ball Super isn't exactly overtly advertising anything. It seems very separated from Dragon Ball Heroes, which has practically advertised itself.
Oh, that makes sense. So like the DB Heroes manga then.
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Post by Doctor. » Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:18 pm

If we use Pokémon as an example, I wouldn't mind seeing Super as the equivalent to the current long-running Pokémon anime, and then some DB Heroes and Xenoverse anime spin-offs functioning as an equivalent to Pokémon's Mega Evolution specials and the Origin OVAs, with the yearly films on the side as well. Seems like too much work for Toei though, especially with all the other projects they already have.

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