"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[fadeddreams5]

I want the planets of universe 6 to be shaped like cubes.

I want the planets of universe 6 to be galaxy-sized cubes.

=D

[Bullza]

@dbzfan7

The plot would switch to other characters but Goku and to a slightly lesser extent Gohan and Vegeta were still the stars who the plot would revolve around. Most of the others had very little importance and impact on the plot.

With how battle powers are done with this series, characters are going to be left behind. It's not like Western comics, they don't each have their own specific powers.

What can they do? People were whining about Frieza having a huge power up and being relevant again. People were whining about Roshi somehow being strong enough to defeat Freeza's soldiers.

Any attempt at powering up the others would only cause people to complain anyway. Likewise they can't keep Goku and Vegeta from progressing and people enjoy that they introduce ever increasing powerful villains.

The human fighters have been out of their league since the Frieza saga and they practically fought nobody throughout the rest of the series. RoF is the most they've had to work with in that regard in a long time.

I don't think it'd be that much of an issue to have them not be involved so much in the action anymore. They could still be vital in other ways.

And so it doesn't have to completely revolve around Goku and Vegeta they could do something with Gotenks, Gohan, Buu or introduce new Z Fighters. Uub is a possibility.

[pacz360]

Sigh i really want guys like piccolo,tien,gohan to get their glory even in rof all they did was beating up worthless mooks that either of them could take out in one blast.

[Noah]

One thing I think that is "forced" on DBS is they wanting to join all the group for no purpose at all, since most of them are expendable and there's not much character interaction

[Chuquita]

Now that we're (temporarily) out of "redoing the movies" territory, I think we'll have a better idea of how involved various characters are going to be. Tomorrow's episode's gonna be interesting in that regard.

[Hellspawn28]

I want the planets of universe 6 to be shaped like cubes.

I want the planets of Universe 6 be shaped like cobs. Everything in Universe 6 is on a cob .

[dbzfan7]

@dbzfan7

The plot would switch to other characters but Goku and to a slightly lesser extent Gohan and Vegeta were still the stars who the plot would revolve around. Most of the others had very little importance and impact on the plot.

With how battle powers are done with this series, characters are going to be left behind. It's not like Western comics, they don't each have their own specific powers.

What can they do? People were whining about Freeza having a huge power up and being relevant again. People were whining about Roshi somehow being strong enough to defeat Freeza's soldiers.

Any attempt at powering up the others would only cause people to complain anyway. Likewise they can't keep Goku and Vegeta from progressing and people enjoy that they introduce ever increasing powerful villains.

The human fighters have been out of their league since the Freeza saga and they practically fought nobody throughout the rest of the series. RoF is the most they've had to work with in that regard in a long time.

I don't think it'd be that much of an issue to have them not be involved so much in the action anymore. They could still be vital in other ways.

And so it doesn't have to completely revolve around Goku and Vegeta they could do something with Gotenks, Gohan, Buu or introduce new Z Fighters. Uub is a possibility.

I'd have disagree considering Piccolo, Future Trunks, and Krillin all had importance. The humans were left in the dust by the saiyan arc unfortunately.

Really depend on how much they give a damn about characters. They gave a damn about Freeza, and out of there ass pulled out a way for him to be relevant again. I don't see how that can't happen for others. Though they wrote themselves into a corner with the god stuff which really makes having the other cast members entirely pointless. Hence moving to the next universe really is the best course of action.

That's just it. Just like in GT they can't really do anything since Goku and later Vegeta in both cases are so far above it leaves them worthless. Well Gohan and the boy technically have a super easy way to technically be of more use, but there's no real interest in their characters to go that route. There's also can always be contrived power ups since the series has always had them. I think the humans are kinda screwed, but Piccolo and the others I'm sure could be written with some way to progress. Again Freeza had an asspull answer so I don't see anything stopping more of them. Zenkai's could be considered this too back in the day. Though the film limits spotlight so the best I would have done is let Shisami and Piccolo have more of a battle and meaning. Perhaps let Goten and Trunks have some time with Freeza considering who they look like, and let Gohan have more of a fight against a lower form of Freeza, and see realize how close he was to leaving Pan fatherless. Set up a future development.

I highly doubt a bigger more useful cast would cause an outrage. I think a smaller cast just reminds us, "Hey isn't this just like that other show where only these 2 were of any use, and others couldn't do anything?" I've seen fan comics which do a better job than Super so far, the movies, and GT combined.

Considering this is an action shonen it is. Let's look at the track record of the last people who slowly became useless. Yeah they didn't really get any further development nor many more moments no more because they were power less. Krillin had a couple and the only one among the humans to develop. Tenshinhan had 2 cool moments, and the rest nothing. Not a good track record for the incapable. It's the safer bet to just like before, shift the focus to Goku n Vegeta in the other universe, and then have the new characters there be the new rivals or friends. It's better than "Wow they're so strong" "You got dis Goku" "We can't do shit he's on another level" "Why do we show up again?"

[Lord Beerus]

I want the planets of universe 6 to be shaped like cubes.

I want the planets of Universe 6 be shaped like cobs. Everything in Universe 6 is on a cob .

I got that reference. Rick and Morty forever and forever 100 years.

[LightBing]

I want the planets of Universe 6 be shaped like cobs. Everything in Universe 6 is on a cob .

They would have to get out of there immediately and go to Universe 5, were the days are longer than normal and the sun screams all the time.

Now that we're (temporarily) out of "redoing the movies" territory, I think we'll have a better idea of how involved various characters are going to be. Tomorrow's episode's gonna be interesting in that regard.

I don't think "filler" episodes are a good judgment of that. Kuririn might have an episode focused on him, but come Universe 6 arc he might not make any appearance, with the exception of the start and end of it. This is true for everybody, Goku and Vegeta might go to the new Universe and we won't see the rest of the cast for 10-20 episodes.

[Chuquita]

I want the planets of Universe 6 be shaped like cobs. Everything in Universe 6 is on a cob .

They would have to get out of there immediately and go to Universe 5, were the days are longer than normal and the sun screams all the time.

Now that we're (temporarily) out of "redoing the movies" territory, I think we'll have a better idea of how involved various characters are going to be. Tomorrow's episode's gonna be interesting in that regard.

I don't think "filler" episodes are a good judgment of that. Kuririn might have an episode focused on him, but come Universe 6 arc he might not make any appearance, with the exception of the start and end of it. This is true for everybody, Goku and Vegeta might go to the new Universe and we won't see the rest of the cast for 10-20 episodes.

I still feel optimistic given how many of the Super episodes before the final ssjg Gokû vs Beerus battle were split into two or even three ongoing storylines, each one following a different set of characters. I'd be genuinely surprised if Kuririn and the others get sidelined that many episodes in a row. There was plenty of filler in Z where it jumped to what other cast members were doing (Launch at the bar, Yajirobe's press conference, Yamcha's baseball game, Yamcha, Piccolo, Tenshinhan, and Chaoutzu on Kaio-sama's planet, Bulma vs the crab, Chi-Chi's many failed attempts to get into outer space, etc.)

[shinmaru]

I hope they wish King Cold back in the Super version of FnF, and hope to see Frieza train on a dead planet or star with extreme conditions .

[Bullza]

@dbzfan7

I see no reason why they couldn't power them up, Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, Chiaotzu and Roshi could go to the Supreme Kai's world to train, have their potential unlocked, perhaps learn the Kaioken.

It's just that people take power levels way too seriously and it'd be easy for them to bitch about it. Like I said I've seen so many people complaining about how Roshi was able to defeat Freeza's henchmen because he only has a power level of 139 and the soldiers should be over 1,000 etc.

Even if they powered up I don't know what they could do. They'll never beat a main villain and I don't want it to become like One Piece or Fairy Tail where you have to sit through half a dozen filler battles between a secondary character and some notable henchmen before you get to the fight you actually want to see.

So yeah I do think the humans are screwed but something can be done with Piccolo, Goten, Trunks and Gohan. Otherwise just introduce new powerful future Z Fighters.

[FutureGohanSSJ2]

Where are people getting this "Freeza soldiers have a pre-determined Power Level of at least 1,000+"? Clearly, those people that think this do not understand what entirely happened pre-RF.

Before Resurrection F, Freeza's army was entirey in shambles. It's why Sorbet sought to gather the Dragon Balls to revive their lord Freeza, in hopes he could restore their army and namesake. But Freeza was hasty on revenge against the Saiyans. They needed to gather an army, but with very little time they gathered whatever little forces they had left, and they had to recruit some new folk.

Why in God's name to people think that, while hiring new army recruits quickly, they have a sign that reads, "Can only be recruited if you have a Power Level of 1,000 or more."? I guarantee you they didn't. Freeza was extremely hasty in wanting to get stronger and get to Earth. It's visibly seem in-film when he hasn't mastered his Golden form. So because they were in a hurry, they simply took in anyone who would fight for them. So, that /could/ mean a Power Level of 1,000. But, come on. Let's be more realistic here. They were in a hurry and needed to gather as many troops as possible within a short amount of time. Chances are, they weren't that strong.

[Captain Space]

They did get eaten by a giant fish, some of 'em...

Then again, at least a good chunk of them must have had some kind of significant power, since apparently Roshi did power up by the events of the movie through training in order to be able to fight them.

[FutureGohanSSJ2]

They did get eaten by a giant fish, some of 'em...

Then again, at least a good chunk of them must have had some kind of significant power, since apparently Roshi did power up by the events of the movie through training in order to be able to fight them.

Oh I'm sure some of the soldiers were strong. But that's the key word here: "some". For some reason, people seem to think that by simply being a "Freeza Soldier", that implies you have a 1,000 power level. Especially considering that Freeza was hiring new forces in a hurry. It was more of a, "Want to join? Here's a suit of armor. Good luck."

[ZombieVito]

They did get eaten by a giant fish, some of 'em...

Then again, at least a good chunk of them must have had some kind of significant power, since apparently Roshi did power up by the events of the movie through training in order to be able to fight them.

No he didn't.

[irreality]

Oh I'm sure some of the soldiers were strong. But that's the key word here: "some". For some reason, people seem to think that by simply being a "Freeza Soldier", that implies you have a 1,000 power level. Especially considering that Freeza was hiring new forces in a hurry. It was more of a, "Want to join? Here's a suit of armor. Good luck."

Yeah, even in the namek saga, there were plenty of fodder soldiers with guns around that just died from a casual shot or were easily beaten by namekians. I doubted some of those soldiers were as strong as Radditz.

[Doctor.]

Kuririn and Gohan beat two Freeza soldiers in two hits, and Zarbon's scouter said they (Kuririn and Gohan) were both at 1,500.

[Noah]

So, there are universes that are "twins" like Universe 6 and 7

What you guys think about that?

[Doctor.]

So, there are universes that are "twins" like Universe 6 and 7

What you guys think about that?

It's interesting and something I think nobody expected. People either expected every universe to be parallels or every universe to be different.