Are Saiyan Hybrids weaker than Full blood Saiyans?

[Xeztin]

I am somewhat confused by this, i know vegeta once mentioned something on the lines of breeding with humans would create a powerfull race, with Gohan, Trunks, and Goten acheving SSJ at such a young age it probably means they have more potential. Though i could see them being weaker than full bloods because of their Human side like wanting to go out with girls, or study for school, which deprives them of the want to fight that the Saiyans have. I've also heard as the Saiyan blood is thinned out on down the tree the less potential they have. For ex goku jr can only go ssj1 because of how much saiyan blood he has, which has been thinned down since Gohan was a half. Is there any truth to this? Or does any hybrid saiyan have just as much potential if not more as a full blood regardless of how much its been thinned down, meaning if goku jr trained right he could surpass goku? (Not counting ssg in that statement SSJ3 at the very most) also in DBZ would Gohan have surpassed His father if it wasn't for him slacking? Also, i think where the more the blood is thinned out, the weaker the hybrid came from was simply Gohan not acheving SSJ3, but rather his ultimate form. Sorry guys if this doesn't make sense, I'm typing on my iphone and am half asleep.

[Saiga]

Not at all. Gohan possess greater dormant power than Goku or Vegeta, and he believes Goten and Trunks have the potential to surpass him. Plus, all of them are extremely powerful for their ages compared to where Goku and Vegeta were at that stage in their lives.

Once you step outside of the manga though, and include things like GT, this logic seems to be disregarded entirely.

[TheGreatness25]

Half breeds have more potential. Don't know about that blood thinning theory; sounds like fan-made interpretations.

Gohan, Goten, and Trunks are not interested in fighting. Don't know if it's because they're half human, but that's just their personality. That's why Gohan was phased out - he wasn't interested in training. People get upset, but he never wanted to train.

[Scarlet Spider]

By EoZ Goten and Trunks don't really have an interest in fighting/training. They enjoy living ordinary lives. Only forced into the tournament by their fathers. But yeah, I feel like Saiyan hybrids have much more potential than full blooded Saiyans. It's just that they don't have the drive to fight as much. It was a play thing for Goten and Trunks. Gohan had no choice.

Gohan's potential is quite interesting though. He's gone through the many stages full blooded Saiyans can. He had a tail, changed into the Oozaru, became a Super Saiyan, a Super Saiyan 2 and at the time surpassed Super Saiyan 3 with the whole potential unleashed via Old Kai.

Goten and Trunks going straight to Super Saiyan 3 via fusion was a neat feat. They rely on it so much though that there's no individual growth.

[irreality]

I think half-saiyans have more easily accessible potential but far less fighting zeal. In the long run, dedication is more important than easy gains, though.

[dbzfan7]

Once you step outside of the manga though, and include things like GT, this logic seems to be disregarded entirely.

It pretty much is. Hell the entire generation is thrown out the window with it to join the others in the graveyard, and surprisingly Boo who actually fit the stat trinity of importance, til they wrote out of the qualifications.

[Lord Beerus]

Half breed Saiyan hybrids have way more potential and easier access to strength than full blood Saiyans... in Toriyama's universe. But Toei's universe, that ain't the case.

[dbzfan7]

Half breed Saiyan hybrids have way more potential and easier access to strength than full blood Saiyans... in Toriyama's universe. But Toei's universe, that ain't the case.

No it's the same in Toriyama's universe. Hence in BOG Goku was said to have unlimited potential. Goku and Vegeta were also the only noteworthy people too. Toriyama has also pretty much dropped any connection to the halfings meaning anything. There really just those children of Goku and Vegeta, and that's it.

[Lord Beerus]

Half breed Saiyan hybrids have way more potential and easier access to strength than full blood Saiyans... in Toriyama's universe. But Toei's universe, that ain't the case.

No it's the same in Toriyama's universe. Hence in BOG Goku was said to have unlimited potential. Goku and Vegeta were also the only noteworthy people too. Toriyama has also pretty much dropped any connection to the halfings meaning anything. There really just those children of Goku and Vegeta, and that's it.

I honestly think the unlimited potential line was a throwaway line. It's used so many times in Dragon Ball it bears no real weight at this stage. I do agree that Goku and Vegeta have taken a good chunk of the spotlight since BOG. But that seems like it's all gonna change in the Universe 6 arc of Super. Hopefully...

[fadeddreams5]

Gohan's potential over his father is tremendous if you consider how fast he eclipsed him in the ROSAT, despite Goku entering as a SSJ and Gohan barely cracking a 1 million PL (presumably).

[dbzfan7]

Half breed Saiyan hybrids have way more potential and easier access to strength than full blood Saiyans... in Toriyama's universe. But Toei's universe, that ain't the case.

No it's the same in Toriyama's universe. Hence in BOG Goku was said to have unlimited potential. Goku and Vegeta were also the only noteworthy people too. Toriyama has also pretty much dropped any connection to the halfings meaning anything. There really just those children of Goku and Vegeta, and that's it.

I honestly think the unlimited potential line was a throwaway line. It's used so many times in Dragon Ball it bears no real weight at this stage. I do agree that Goku and Vegeta have taken a good chunk of the spotlight since BOG. But that seems like it's all gonna change in the Universe 6 arc of Super. Hopefully...

Considering the new realm of power he achieved I don't think that was a throw away line. Furthering off Beerus' impressions it's clear that the only people were supposed to see as impressive are Goku & Vegeta and no one else. We as the audience are not really supposed to see the others as anything but the sons of the saiyans or Goku's friends. That's all they are when it comes to potential.

[Blackstripe]

My theory is that hybrids are naturally born with a great amount of potential and have a far easier time bringing it out, buuut...

They do have an ultimate limit in terms of how strong they can become. This is shown with Old Kaioshin's ritual, which had to take Gohan far past his limits in order to outmatch Super Buu.

I believe that pure blooded Saiyans have no such limit, but start out far weaker and must work hard for every ounce of power they gain. Theoretically, however, they can continue growing indefinitely, hence why they are the ultimate warrior race.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Half breed Saiyan hybrids have way more potential and easier access to strength than full blood Saiyans... in Toriyama's universe. But Toei's universe, that ain't the case.

No it's the same in Toriyama's universe. Hence in BOG Goku was said to have unlimited potential. Goku and Vegeta were also the only noteworthy people too. Toriyama has also pretty much dropped any connection to the halfings meaning anything. There really just those children of Goku and Vegeta, and that's it.

Gohan & Gotenks didn't do anything impressive. Goku & Vegeta did. That's how Beerus judged them.

[Lord Frieza]

While they are stronger and have greater potential than pure-bloods they lack a true saiyans natural thirst for combat and to get stronger. Gohan, Goten and Trunks all lack any real saiyan mentality for the most part.