"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Xeztin]

That wouldn't make sense. Especially since the bet has to do with the Earth of their respected Universes.

And 5 warriors from an uninhabited Earth would make more sense because...? Besides, Beerus and co. don't want it.

That is the correct line, "five individuals from each universe". It's U7's Earth that is in dispute, we don't know yet what Beerus' team would gain from winning, other than keeping their Earth.

I know it's a long shot, but if planet Vegeta still exists in U6, what if Beeru's wants it if he wins?
though I think it would be more of something like every planet with decent food in U6 on the line for U7's Earth, since apparently Earth in U7 has better food than any planet in U6.

[FortuneSSJ]

I know it's a long shot, but if planet Vegeta still exists in U6, what if Beeru's wants it if he wins?

And bring back the entire saiyan race to Universe 7?! That's how you ruin one of the few casualties that this series still has.

[irreality]

I'm not sure Beerus likes Saiyans in general… Like he likes the Earth Saiyans with their good battles and good food, but he didn't like King Vegeta and he wanted Freeza to destroy them, so… why would he want them back?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Battle of Gods Beerus didn't seem to mind them so long as they weren't rude (which King Vegeta presumably was), as he was treating Vegeta like a friend until shit hit the fan. But Super's Beerus seems to really dislike them; mentally torturing Vegeta and not wanting to waste his full power on a mere Saiyan... yeah, I doubt he'd want another Planet Vegeta.

Maybe the only way he would go for it would be if they were all righteous and could give him a ton of Super Saiyan Gods to fight (assuming they could eventually make it to his level, anyway)? xD

[Doctor.]

Battle of Gods Beerus was going to destroy the Saiyans as well, and Super's Beerus also treated Goku with kindness. Both of them just hate the Vegeta family.

[KonohaKillas]

Battle of Gods Beerus didn't seem to mind them so long as they weren't rude (which King Vegeta presumably was), as he was treating Vegeta like a friend until shit hit the fan. But Super's Beerus seems to really dislike them; mentally torturing Vegeta and not wanting to waste his full power on a mere Saiyan... yeah, I doubt he'd want another Planet Vegeta.

Maybe the only way he would go for it would be if they were all righteous and could give him a ton of Super Saiyan Gods to fight (assuming they could eventually make it to his level, anyway)? xD

That would be crazy, assuming that an army of saiyans would be able to reach that God form. It would be way too much going on to ever truly work in a story though.

[kei17]

I have no idea whether this is a self-parody or a rehash, but it feels sort of lazy.

Spoiler:

[KonohaKillas]

I have no idea whether this is a self-parody or a rehash, but it feels sort of lazy.

Spoiler:

No, in fact they seem to be using a different arm too, so over all it's pretty much not connected. I see where you find it easy to make the distinction though, with the way this franchise doles out blasts you are bound to be in this type of position once in awhile.

[kei17]

I have no idea whether this is a self-parody or a rehash, but it feels sort of lazy.

Spoiler:

No, in fact they seem to be using a different arm too, so over all it's pretty much not connected. I see where you find it easy to make the distinction though, with the way this franchise doles out blasts you are bound to be in this type of position once in awhile.

The same expressions with the same camera angles, background, "!!" in the balloons, and the exactly corresponding onomatopoeia. They're both from a training scene, too. Also, of course, the same artist! I don't think this is a coincidental match.

[Faustus]

Yeah, that's no coincidence: Even the fight sequence leading up to the blast is lifted almost panel for panel.

I don't particularly mind, though; it works well enough in context as not to feel hamfisted.

[KonohaKillas]

I have no idea whether this is a self-parody or a rehash, but it feels sort of lazy.

Spoiler:

No, in fact they seem to be using a different arm too, so over all it's pretty much not connected. I see where you find it easy to make the distinction though, with the way this franchise doles out blasts you are bound to be in this type of position once in awhile.

The same expressions with the same camera angles, background, "!!" in the balloons, and the exactly corresponding onomatopoeia. They're both from a training scene, too. Also, of course, the same artist! I don't think this is a coincidental match.

Although there have been shots similar to this since cell arc in the manga, I do think you could be correct, those similarities you pointed out are valid connections to make a case about the lack of originality. One final thing i would add is that if you're right, I don't particularly mind as long as these type of shots are well placed and not constantly over used in an unoriginal way.

[Xeztin]

I have no idea whether this is a self-parody or a rehash, but it feels sort of lazy.

Spoiler:

No, in fact they seem to be using a different arm too, so over all it's pretty much not connected. I see where you find it easy to make the distinction though, with the way this franchise doles out blasts you are bound to be in this type of position once in awhile.

The same expressions with the same camera angles, background, "!!" in the balloons, and the exactly corresponding onomatopoeia. They're both from a training scene, too. Also, of course, the same artist! I don't think this is a coincidental match.

There's definitely similarities.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I have no idea whether this is a self-parody or a rehash, but it feels sort of lazy.

Spoiler:

Ιt's not traced, and it's a cool reference to his AF manga.

[KonohaKillas]

I would like to see a universe in this manga where non Saiyan z warriors really gained immense power levels on par with saiyans some how, the way this happened would be left to the writers as I can't imagine it and also another universe as others have said where Planet Vegeta exists because it would give us rare insight to a planet that we haven't spent much time on.

[Xeztin]

I have no idea whether this is a self-parody or a rehash, but it feels sort of lazy.

Spoiler:

No, in fact they seem to be using a different arm too, so over all it's pretty much not connected. I see where you find it easy to make the distinction though, with the way this franchise doles out blasts you are bound to be in this type of position once in awhile.

The same expressions with the same camera angles, background, "!!" in the balloons, and the exactly corresponding onomatopoeia. They're both from a training scene, too. Also, of course, the same artist! I don't think this is a coincidental match.

When was the second page released? I thought I had all of Toyble's creation's but apparently I don't
I only have one page of Goku being a SSJ 5 had no idea this one existed.

[Faustus]

About the recycled choreography: Is it possible that Toyotaro is trying to dispel any lingering doubts that he and "Toyble" are one and the same? Or was the fact already overwhelmingly beyond dispute?

At all events, though -- even if it was clear as crystal beforehand -- I'm still more inclined to regard it as a rascally nod and a wink on his part than as some sort of lazy expedient.

[KonohaKillas]

About the recycled choreography: Is it possible that Toyotaro is trying to dispel any lingering doubts that he and "Toyble" are one and the same? Or was the fact already overwhelmingly beyond dispute?

At all events, though -- even if it was clear as crystal beforehand -- I'm still more inclined to regard it as a rascally nod and a wink on his part than as some sort of lazy expedient.

It might be blown out of proportion and just another part of the dragon ball super manga that happens to be similar to the other page.

[Chiki]

I personally wonder if there's anyone in Universe 6 anywhere near as strong as Goku or Vegeta. I find it hard to believe that there's Gods just running around that universe.

Whis will probably force them to wear those suits during the tournament, but I could be wrong.

[Doctor.]

I personally wonder if there's anyone in Universe 6 anywhere near as strong as Goku or Vegeta. I find it hard to believe that there's Gods just running around that universe.

Whis will probably force them to wear those suits during the tournament, but I could be wrong.

If Goku and Vegeta exist, why can't there be people as strong as them in U6? We don't know what happened there. Goku and Vegeta are Gods and they're running around their universe. Freeza was too. Universe 6 may even have Kaioshins that are stronger than Champa and Vados.

[kidhero1000]

Am I reading this right, Gold Ice lizard's power shook the entire universe when he powered up in the manga against Goku?