SSJ Black?

tainted saiyan · Post by **tainted saiyan** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:34 am

So, I was looking for DBZ figures and found this: http://www.toysrus.ca/webapp/wcs/stores ... ctId=95601
Some messed up SSJ3 jp figure?

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:19 am

tainted saiyan wrote:So, I was looking for DBZ figures and found this: http://www.toysrus.ca/webapp/wcs/stores ... ctId=95601
Some messed up SSJ3 jap figure?

Just a little heads-up, so your future posts don't make you sound ignorant or racist, try simply saying "Japanese" or "JP" if you must abbreviate it. Saying "Jap" isn't as well accepted in today's era, and in fact is a disrespectful remark. The same can be said if you're gonna refer to Akira Toriyama simply as "Akira", unless you're a real good friend with the man, the proper way to address him is Akira Toriyama, Mr. Toriyama, or even just Toriyama.

On topic, I have no idea what that figure's from. Though it seems to be a definitive potara merging of SSJ3 Goku and Raditz.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:36 am

Looking at the rest of the figure, I'm guessing it's just some odd "METALLIC GWAR" color scheme.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:26 am

Conan the SSJ wrote: Just a little heads-up, so your future posts don't make you sound ignorant or racist, try simply saying "Japanese" or "JP" if you must abbreviate it. Saying "Jap" isn't as well accepted in today's era, and in fact is a disrespectful remark.

Thankyou, at least someone pointed it out. I'm not even Japanese and it pisses me off.

tainted saiyan · Post by **tainted saiyan** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:26 pm

It was meant as an abbreviation. Sorry if you took any offense,

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:09 pm

tainted saiyan wrote:It was meant as an abbreviation. Sorry if you took any offense,

It's not so much that anyone took offense, I think we all knew you were using it as just an abreviation. It's just that in the past (and maybe even currently, don't know) the term was used as a racist remark, and most of us would like to distance ourselves from that as much as possible.

Come to think of it, this isn't the only weirdly colored DBZ figure I've seen lately. Funimation has a new line of action figures in their online store that are colored black and white. Maybe they're trying for some kind of authentic manga look?

tainted saiyan · Post by **tainted saiyan** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:34 pm

It's almost like they are going for an "evil" version of Goku. The figure is partially coloured, so I don't know why they would colour his hair black.

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:52 pm

Deus ex Machina wrote:It's not so much that anyone took offense, I think we all knew you were using it as just an abreviation. It's just that in the past ...the term was used as a racist remark...

Yeah, remember the Superman thing?

Anywhoo, that is one weird figure. But hey, $11.99, free shipping, I'm all over that!

nathantheguitarist · Post by **nathantheguitarist** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:08 pm

If you look at basically any of the recent "Ultimate Figure" series from Bandai, they're ALL in this... black and white look. I think there were some others, but I know this is the series that uses it the most.
In fact these are all that are on the shelves in some stores when it comes to dragonball z figures. And it sucks, cause they're like 10 - 12 bucks a figure, and they're tiny! But they do have the most articulation any dbz figure has ever had, and they come with removable shirt tops, or armor in vegetas case, and interchangable hands: open, and closed fists. It's not going for an evil look or anything... but I have no idea wtf they're thinking...

But I say if anyone is interested at all in getting these, look for the colored versions instead

Goku

SSJ Goku

SSJ Vegeta

SSJ Vegetto

SSJ3 Goku

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:10 pm

That's a JP figure from the Ultimate Figure Series. I guess they tried to make the series "cooler" by giving a sort of pallet swap. What I like about these figures is that they've got more points of articulation than your average figure, so you can pose 'em in any you want (please, no dirty comments).

EDIT: Aw crap, nathantheguitarist beat me to it! And yeah, I'd suggest only getting the b/w versions if you want to do some kind of custom paint job.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:22 pm

I think they look pretty cool, but I'm such a Manga fanboy...either way, I don't collect figures.

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:23 pm

Black and white, huh? I've never seen action figures based off of just the manga.*Drums*(Get it, the manga is just black and white.. just like the...oh, never mind)

nathantheguitarist · Post by **nathantheguitarist** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:25 pm

DaemonCorps wrote:I'd suggest only getting the b/w versions if you want to do some kind of custom paint job.

well... only get the black and white versions for something... different, and look for the colored if you think the b&w is horribly disgusting

but unfortunately the b&w is all that's really out there

aarondirebear · Post by **aarondirebear** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:53 pm

Technically, shortening a name doesnt make you ignorant or racist, just lazy.
I'm sick of people using that word all the damn time.."ignorant". They just throw it around like its birdseed.

Besides, diminuitives are meant to be AFFECTIONATE not RACIST.
I'm not offended by "Ameri", or "Scot" or "Celt" or "Cauc", so what makes a difference if someone is a "Mexi", a "Viet", a "Pinoy", a, "Jap" or a "Aleut"?

chibi_goten · Post by **chibi_goten** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:06 pm

To be honest, I don't see the big problem either. Though if people find it offensive, which normally someone always does, you should just call them by the full name of being Japanese, just to save arguments. To be honest I have said things like that my self and thought nothing of it (not meaning it in a nasty manor)and I'm sure some Japanese people don't care either but since we live in a ''politically correct'' world, where most people do take offense it's probably best to be carefull what you say.

jwimz · Post by **jwimz** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:09 pm

aarondirebear wrote:Technically, shortening a name doesnt make you ignorant or racist, just lazy.
I'm sick of people using that word all the damn time.."ignorant". They just throw it around like its birdseed.

Besides, diminuitives are meant to be AFFECTIONATE not RACIST.
I'm not offended by "Ameri", or "Scot" or "Celt" or "Cauc", so what makes a difference if someone is a "Mexi", a "Viet", a "Pinoy", a, "Jap" or a "Aleut"?

Back in WWII when America was fighting against the Japanese, propaganda started using the term "jap" (and "japo") as a slang term for the Japanese, very much the same way they called Germans "Krauts". It was intended as a derogatory racial slur; even though it isn't used today, it still is a racial slur.

Mystery Person X · Post by **Mystery Person X** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:12 pm

aarondirebear wrote:Technically, shortening a name doesnt make you ignorant or racist, just lazy.
I'm sick of people using that word all the damn time.."ignorant". They just throw it around like its birdseed.

Besides, diminuitives are meant to be AFFECTIONATE not RACIST.
I'm not offended by "Ameri", or "Scot" or "Celt" or "Cauc", so what makes a difference if someone is a "Mexi", a "Viet", a "Pinoy", a, "Jap" or a "Aleut"?

The word "Jap" was used derogatively during World War II, in propaganda and in general by American citizens, and it still has that connotation. That's the difference.

chibi_goten · Post by **chibi_goten** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:20 pm

Since he changed the word anyways, and this hasn't got anything to do with Dragonball I'm hoping to end this now. In Japanese dictionaries, the term Jap is only defined as a disparaging term used against the Japanese people, like it is the case in many English language dictionaries.

Enough said, you shouldn't really be saying it.

nathantheguitarist · Post by **nathantheguitarist** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:21 pm

Just incase this has been overlooked, but this thread was about the wierd coloring of the recent "Ultimate Figure Series" from Bandai. Not ww2 and racial jargon.

*ducks and covers*

jwimz · Post by **jwimz** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:43 pm

The whole side-note was just a "The more you know" type of thing.

Anyways, I think that these "Black and White" figures look terrible, I would much rather have them in color. I do however own a "black and white" vegeta figure (thanks Burger King!). It is pretty cheap, I might pick it up anyways.

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