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Post by Holy Katana » Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:43 pm

Should I purchase one? So many new things, but there's the language barrier and the fact that it's condensed.

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Post by B-kun » Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:59 pm

Holy Katana wrote:Should I purchase one? So many new things, but there's the language barrier and the fact that it's condensed.
One thing about manga is that, as long as you know what's going on, you don't really need to know Japanese. I only know a little bit of katakana and a bit of kanji and I can go through my Sailor Moon manga easily.
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Post by Holy Katana » Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:27 pm

Well, I do know quite a bit of kana, and about 20 kanji. But you say that you don't need knowledge of Japanese to read import manga? Okay, I'll take your word for it.

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Post by VegettoEX » Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:28 pm

B-kun wrote:I only know a little bit of katana
I know a little bit of katana, too, but it's never helped in any of my reading... !
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Post by PsyLiam » Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:43 pm

Holy Katana wrote:Well, I do know quite a bit of kana, and about 20 kanji. But you say that you don't need knowledge of Japanese to read import manga? Okay, I'll take your word for it.
Well, you wouldn't be able to read it, but you could look at it.

I know this might sound like a radical idea, but...imagine a comic book where all the words in the speech bubbles have been rendered unreadable by a black marker pen. That's what you would be getting.
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Re: Kanzenban

Post by B-kun » Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:45 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
B-kun wrote:I only know a little bit of katana
I know a little bit of katana, too, but it's never helped in any of my reading... !
I was thinking of his screen name, you bas - meanie. I meant meanie. Yesss...

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Post by SaiyaJedi » Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:47 pm

Holy Katana wrote:Should I purchase one? So many new things, but there's the language barrier and the fact that it's condensed.
It's not condensed... it just has more chapters per volume. So, unless you meant the price by that (since each one is about $9 US before shipping), the "condensed" thing isn't an issue. :)
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Re: Kanzenban

Post by Holy Katana » Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:51 pm

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Holy Katana wrote:Should I purchase one? So many new things, but there's the language barrier and the fact that it's condensed.
It's not condensed... it just has more chapters per volume. So, unless you meant the price by that (since each one is about $9 US before shipping), the "condensed" thing isn't an issue. :)
Wait, I forgot. Condensed means denser, like condensed milk. So, it is condensed.

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Post by Alias » Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:20 pm

The Kanzenban have picture quality that is far better than any of the other manga releases (especially the Japanese ones, which look like dirt). They have the original color chapters and color chapter title pages (which the english version converts to black and white). They're bigger (you don't have to pull the book's pages back hard to see the parts that are borderline lost in the spine), have new cover art and design, and much better paper (it's not that newspaper-like stuff you get in the old Japanese volumes). They truly are black and white, rather than blackish-grey/some other weird light shade. Not to mention you get more chapters per book, DB art by famous mangakas, and whatever other promo slips they add to them.

If you can afford them, they're MUCH better than any other DB manga releases I've seen. In Japan, they're (I think) normally 933 yen, I pay 12$ each at a local Japanese bookstore.

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Post by Holy Katana » Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:56 pm

Alias wrote:The Kanzenban have picture quality that is far better than any of the other manga releases (especially the Japanese ones, which look like dirt). They have the original color chapters and color chapter title pages (which the english version converts to black and white). They're bigger (you don't have to pull the book's pages back hard to see the parts that are borderline lost in the spine), have new cover art and design, and much better paper (it's not that newspaper-like stuff you get in the old Japanese volumes). They truly are black and white, rather than blackish-grey/some other weird light shade. Not to mention you get more chapters per book, DB art by famous mangakas, and whatever other promo slips they add to them.

If you can afford them, they're MUCH better than any other DB manga releases I've seen. In Japan, they're (I think) normally 933 yen, I pay 12$ each at a local Japanese bookstore.
I knew that. So, you have some? Cool.

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Post by Alias » Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:18 pm

If you (or anyone else here) doesn't want to pay the ridiculous prices they charge for them at Ebay and other online stores (not to mention the average of $12 shipping from Japan), you can check whatever phonebook you've got for a local Japanese supermarket or bookstore. Many of the markets have little bookstores inside with the latest manga. They usually charge no more than a few dollars over the original price.

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Post by Holy Katana » Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:48 pm

Alias wrote:If you (or anyone else here) doesn't want to pay the ridiculous prices they charge for them at Ebay and other online stores (not to mention the average of $12 shipping from Japan), you can check whatever phonebook you've got for a local Japanese supermarket or bookstore. Many of the markets have little bookstores inside with the latest manga. They usually charge no more than a few dollars over the original price.
I go to one, but it doesn't carry manga except for magazines, and Weekly Shounen Jump is always sold out... Why do they not have kanzenban?

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Post by Alias » Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:46 pm

Most carry at least some manga, but there's always those that don't. If you live in a moderately large city, you should easily be able to find another one. Or, you could look under bookstores in your phonebook and call the ones with Japanese names.

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Post by Holy Katana » Wed Apr 21, 2004 9:16 pm

Trust me, that's the only one.

EDIT: BTW, I live near Nashville.

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Post by PsyLiam » Wed Apr 21, 2004 10:45 pm

My condolences.
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Post by Sun_Wukong » Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:11 am

I have the one with Kuririn on the cover, the 2nd one i believe? Anyway, I definately plan on buying more at Otakon this year, or if I end up going to NYC before then.

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Post by SaiyaJedi » Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:46 am

Sun_Wukong wrote:I have the one with Kuririn on the cover, the 2nd one i believe? Anyway, I definately plan on buying more at Otakon this year, or if I end up going to NYC before then.
It's the third... but yeah, conventions would be a good place to look. Just beware the price-gouging. :? Caueat emptor...
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Post by SSJHitch » Sat Apr 24, 2004 7:23 am

It's a shame you don't live in England if you're worried about price. I managed to by Kanzenban number 1 online at around the same price as I pay for Viz's English manga.
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Post by PsyLiam » Sun Apr 25, 2004 6:05 pm

Where abouts?
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