The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Kid Buu]

Chi-Chi Vs. Kaioshin.

One is feared by a Super Saiyan, the other feared by a Super Namek.

Piccolo quit out of respect not fear... Chi-Chi slaps the taste outta Kaioshin's mouth for what he did to Gohan.

Bunch of revisionist history here, Piccolo quit because he was scared of Kaionshin's power, and he even tells Goku that their powers are dimensions apart.

[Zephyr]

Chi-Chi Vs. Kaioshin.

Kaioshin effortlessly erases her from existence, allowing Goku to find a semi-decent life partner.

[Noah]

-10%/90% - Vegeta was even with #18. She had a small power advantage, while the Saiyan had the skill advantage. Vegeta only lost because the androids don't lose power and suffer no damage. Adding Trunks which shouldn't be that far behind, should prove enough if they finish it quickly. Add Piccolo and Tenshinhan, the distractions to prepare a finishing attack increase.
I give #18% a small percentage of success. She seems intelligent enough to evaluate the situation, coming over the top to survive. Or Vegeta might go pride crazy and screw everything.

-0%/100% - Cell is weaker than 18# and it's combined opponents are even better than in the previous match up. I doubt Cell knowledge could provide a advantage against three close in power Super Saiyans. He might take out one of his adversaries but he loses in all scenarios.

-100%/0% - See answers above.

Interesting that you used % to define who would probably win these matches, I like it


New matches:

- Android 17 x SSJ Mirai Trunks (Pre RoSaT), SSJ Vegeta (Pre RoSaT), Piccolo, Tien (since #17 is stated to be stronger than #18, don't know if it is for a small amount or not)

- Android 17 x SSJ Mirai Trunks (Pre RoSaT), SSJ Vegeta (Pre RoSaT), SSJ Goku (Post Heart Virus) (If he wins without much difficulty, can add Piccolo, Tien, Krillin and Yamcha to this match)

- Piccolo x Android 18

- Goku (Saiyan Arc) x Vegeta (Saiyan Arc) (Equal power match/No Kaioken/Oozaru)

[Battousai]

-10%/90% - Vegeta was even with #18. She had a small power advantage, while the Saiyan had the skill advantage. Vegeta only lost because the androids don't lose power and suffer no damage. Adding Trunks which shouldn't be that far behind, should prove enough if they finish it quickly. Add Piccolo and Tenshinhan, the distractions to prepare a finishing attack increase.
I give #18% a small percentage of success. She seems intelligent enough to evaluate the situation, coming over the top to survive. Or Vegeta might go pride crazy and screw everything.

-0%/100% - Cell is weaker than 18# and it's combined opponents are even better than in the previous match up. I doubt Cell knowledge could provide a advantage against three close in power Super Saiyans. He might take out one of his adversaries but he loses in all scenarios.

-100%/0% - See answers above.

Interesting that you used % to define who would probably win these matches, I like it


New matches:

- Android 17 x SSJ Mirai Trunks (Pre RoSaT), SSJ Vegeta (Pre RoSaT), Piccolo, Tenshinhan (since #17 is stated to be stronger than #18, don't know if it is for a small amount or not)

- Android 17 x SSJ Mirai Trunks (Pre RoSaT), SSJ Vegeta (Pre RoSaT), SSJ Goku (Post Heart Virus) (If he wins without much difficulty, can add Piccolo, Tenshinhan, Krillin and Yamcha to this match)

- Piccolo x Android 18

- Goku (Saiyan Arc) x Vegeta (Saiyan Arc) (Equal power match/No Kaioken/Oozaru)

- 17 wins easily ( I recall he basically one shots SSJ Trunks )
- 17 wins with low difficulty. The humans and the Namekian won't do much difference.
- If this is Piccolo after fusing with Kami, then Piccolo wins with low difficulty
- Vegeta wins with low difficulty. Without Kaioken, Goku can't do much against Vegeta.

[Khin]

New matches:
- Android 17 x SSJ Mirai Trunks (Pre RoSaT), SSJ Vegeta (Pre RoSaT), Piccolo, Tenshinhan (since #17 is stated to be stronger than #18, don't know if it is for a small amount or not)

- Android 17 x SSJ Mirai Trunks (Pre RoSaT), SSJ Vegeta (Pre RoSaT), SSJ Goku (Post Heart Virus) (If he wins without much difficulty, can add Piccolo, Tenshinhan, Krillin and Yamcha to this match)

- Piccolo x Android 18

- Goku (Saiyan Arc) x Vegeta (Saiyan Arc) (Equal power match/No Kaioken/Oozaru)

-Android 17 wins with mild difficulty.
-With Piccolo,the team wins after a hard battle.
-Kamicollo right? He wins with mild difficulty.
-Vegeta takes this 7/10,I dont see him giving Goku enough time to make a Genki Dama.

[Hugo Boss]

Quando Bulma sugeriu que Vegeta poderia se transformar em SS2?

When Gohan invited Vegeta and the others to participate in the 25th martial arts tournament, Bulma doubt Goku could use SS2 or something of that effect. You could say that she doesn't directly imply Vegeta can, but the tidbit about Gohan being barely as strong as he used to be and Vegeta suggesting their difference might have shrunk quite a lot strongly suggests Vegeta has acquired SS2 during his 7-years training.

[ahill1]

Quando Bulma sugeriu que Vegeta poderia se transformar em SS2?

When Gohan invited Vegeta and the others to participate in the 25th martial arts tournament, Bulma doubt Goku could use SS2 or something of that effect. You could say that she doesn't directly imply Vegeta can, but the tidbit about Gohan being barely as strong as he used to be and Vegeta suggesting their difference might have shrunk quite a lot strongly suggests Vegeta has acquired SS2 during his 7-years training.

Esse é um grotesco erro de tradução. No mangá original Bulma nunca disse isso... ela disse apenas que Vegeta nunca trabalhou, igual ao Goku, e que nesse quesito os Saiyajins são todos iguais. Bulma iria lá saber sobre SS2? Lol.

[Noah]

Esse é um grotesco erro de tradução. No mangá original Bulma nunca disse isso... ela disse apenas que Vegeta nunca trabalhou, igual ao Goku, e que nesse quesito os Saiyajins são todos iguais. Bulma iria lá saber sobre SS2? Lol.

Dude, this is a English forum

[Hugo Boss]

Esse é um grotesco erro de tradução. No mangá original Bulma nunca disse isso... ela disse apenas que Vegeta nunca trabalhou, igual ao Goku, e que nesse quesito os Saiyajins são todos iguais. Bulma iria lá saber sobre SS2? Lol.

Yeah, I checked and you're right. I really don't understand why it was translated like that, but Vegeta's words might speak for themselves for what matters. Unless you believe his Super Saiyan form was as strong as Gohan's SS2 form. Next, type your responses in English, so others can understand our conversation.

[ahill1]

Esse é um grotesco erro de tradução. No mangá original Bulma nunca disse isso... ela disse apenas que Vegeta nunca trabalhou, igual ao Goku, e que nesse quesito os Saiyajins são todos iguais. Bulma iria lá saber sobre SS2? Lol.

Yeah, I checked and you're right. I really don't understand why it was translated like that, but Vegeta's words might speak for themselves for what matters. Unless you believe his Super Saiyan form was as strong as Gohan's SS2 form. Next, type your responses in English, so others can understand our conversation.

Sim, mas eu não me sinto muito confortável falando inglês já que eu não falo fluentemente. Sei apenas o básico. Por essa razão meus comentários geralmente não são muito construtivos, eu tenho que me esforçar muito para escrever algo.

[Hugo Boss]

The problem is about Kanzenshuu's first rule. We are writing to non-portuguese speakers as well. If you want to continue the discussion in portuguese you can send private messages to the portuguese speakers. If you want the whole community to understand our contributions, any significant effort will be very welcome. You can try the Google Translate app to construct a tough sentence.

Another match: Yakon vs. Base Gotenks

Giving that both are weaker than Super Saiyan Goku, would Gotenks be able to win in the Dark Abyss planet?

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Another match: Yakon vs. Base Gotenks

Giving that both are weaker than Super Saiyan Goku, would Gotenks be able to win in the Dark Abyss planet?

What says Base Gotenks is weaker than Super Saiyan Goku? Anywho, Gotenks would slaughter Yakon in my opinion. Yakon didn't seem far off or even necessarily stronger than Base Goku.

[Saiga]

Gohan believed that he and Goku could take Yakon together in base, so Gotenks would easily kill Yakon.

[Captain Space]

Pretty sure base Goku was stronger than Yakon anyway, if not by too much. He probably could've won without SSJ eventually even in the dark, it just would've taken a while.

[Hellspawn28]

Tao Pai Pai vs. Akame Ga Kill universe

He can solo it or can they stop him. This is human Tao, not Cyborg Tao BTW.

[Hugo Boss]

What says Base Gotenks is weaker than Super Saiyan Goku?

Gotenks in general isn't much stronger than Goku, so their respective forms shouldn't be that different.

Gohan believed that he and Goku could take Yakon together in base, so Gotenks would easily kill Yakon.

Gohan offer a hand to Goku, but that doesn't necessarily mean they would be able to win in that condition. They might need Vegeta's and Kaioshin's help as well, if Goku hadn't thought about overload Yakon.

Pretty sure base Goku was stronger than Yakon anyway, if not by too much. He probably could've won without SSJ eventually even in the dark, it just would've taken a while.

That's a fair point of view, but do you think Gotenks would see through his visual disadvantage?

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Gotenks in general isn't much stronger than Goku, so their respective forms shouldn't be that different.

That's your opinion.

[Khin]

If Pre ROSAT SSJ Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku,then there would be no way Base Gotenks will be stronger than SSJ Goku,Unless Gotenks is way above SSJ3 Goku which i doubt he is.For example..

SSJ Gotenks(Pre) = 100

SSJ3 Goku = 90

SSJ2 Goku = 22.5

SSJ Goku = 11.25

Base Gotenks = 2

Anyway,Gotenks slaughters Yakon,Goku was confident he can take on Yakon in base.And Base Gotenks>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Base Goku.

[Noah]

New match:

100% FP Freeza x Yakon (With/Without Dark Planet)

[Khin]

New match:

100% FP Freeza x Yakon (With/Without Dark Planet)

Since Freeza > Base Goku(Super),and Buu Saga Base Goku was confident on taking Yakon,Freeza one shots Yakon without Dark Planet,With Yakons planet,Either Freeza spams Ki Blast and kills Yakon with it or Yakon wins with high difficulty since Freeza cant sense Ki.