Spirit Bomb "Triple Strike" in the Ocean dub

[90sDBZ]

I was thinking about this recently, and actually saw someone mention it in another topic today. For those who don't know what I'm talking about I'll explain it. When the Spirit Bomb was first mentioned in the Ocean dub on King Kai's planet, it was referred to as the Spirit Bomb like normal. For some strange reason on the episode where Goku decides to use it on Vegeta, he instead refers to it as "a triple strike", and King Kai also says "I hope you are able to control the strike". On the following episodes and throughout the rest of the dub it goes back to being the Spirit Bomb.

Does anyone have any insight as to why they randomly changed the name for one episode? Could it be that Triple Strike was the original intended dub name for the move? Is it as sign that there were earlier recordings that were later revised before broadcast?

[VegettoEX]

I... don't recall that line at all. Can you point me to a particular episode/scene?

[B]

Sounds like a bowling joke. The Genki Dama is literally a ball...

[ABED]

I don't have any insight, but I recall the line and thinking it was weird when I read up on the series. Goku talks about it when he's evading Vegeta and trying to form the Genki Dama.

[90sDBZ]

I can't find the clip of it, but I'm pretty sure he says it shortly after he deduces that "Vegeta" killed his Grampa.

[Gaffer Tape]

Gasp. I DO remember that. Very vaguely. And I remember being very confused by it. Holy crap. I need to break out that tape and see if I can find it!

[Captain-Sora]

It's in episode 24 (32 in the original Japanese version).

"I've got something to give him. That he'll wish he'd never seen. The power of a Triple Strike!"

"What's this? Hmmm. A Triple Strike! I wouldn't advise it. His power is incredibly low and the strain may be too much for his body to bear. For your sake, I hope you'll be able to control the Strike, Goku!"

[VegettoEX]

Starting to come back to me.

I guess I interpreted that as Kaio-Ken 3X, rather than the Genki-Dama. That ties in with the whole "body can't take it" thing going on. Was he already in Kaio-Ken 3X at that point, though?

[Gaffer Tape]

Yeah, I just found my tape and watched it myself. It's the episode "Vegeta... Saiyan Style." Since he refers to the Spirit Bomb later in the same episode, I assumed this was just some other attack Goku knew... that we never got to see for some reason. What a really weird thing. I had totally forgotten about it. Come to think of it, I'm really surprised DBZ Uncensored didn't mention this one because it's just such a weird anomaly.

[ABED]

Starting to come back to me.<br abp="705"><br abp="706">I guess I interpreted that as Kaio-Ken 3X, rather than the Genki-Dama. That ties in with the whole "body can't take it" thing going on. Was he already in Kaio-Ken 3X at that point, though?

Yes, by this point in the fight, Vegeta had already turned Great Ape.

[LuckyCat]

It seems like the voice actor just went off script and the director said "It sounds cool, roll with it!". It didn't bother me when I was watching it as a kid.

[Gaffer Tape]

It seems like the voice actor just went off script and the director said "It sounds cool, roll with it!". It didn't bother me when I was watching it as a kid.

Considering how much they try to match the lip flaps, I find it hard to believe they'd allow an actor to make such an ad-lib on his own. Granted, this one matches the syllables of Spirit Bomb. But also the fact that they had Kaio's voice actor say it as well when they were most likely not recording at the same time, makes it very unlikely to me that it was a random occurrence.

As for the OP, I also find it hard to believe that it was the original name or what have you because it wasn't a one-off in the episode. Like I said earlier, he refers to a Triple Strike. Then later in the same episode he talks about readying a Spirit Bomb. I guess it's certainly possible an inconsistency slipped through where an older attack name got in there... but in the same episode? And I'm at a loss to see how Triple Strike in any way describes an attack like the Genki Dama.

But I am so glad you made this topic. I hadn't thought about Triple Strike in years. I had completely forgotten it until you brought it up! Glad I still have all my old recordings packed away so I could once again check it out for myself. Now I feel compelled to see what they redubbed it as...

EDIT: Alright. Looked up the redub on my Dragon Box. Unsurprisingly they went with Spirit Bomb. What did surprise me (although not that much) was just, aside from the Triple Strike line, how much closer to the original dialogue FUNimation's '96 dub was than the '05 redub. Especially since in this case it seems unnecessary to have to rewrite any of it at all considering Spirit Bomb and Triple Strike have the same number of syllables.

It's just that, there's a line right before that exchange where Yajirobe is watching the battle. The original line has him talking about how he recognizes the ape's clothes as belonging to the Saiyan. In the original dub, he says pretty much the exact same thing except referring to him as Vegeta instead of the Saiyan, which makes less sense (how would he know his name?) but is still essentially accurate. The redub completely rewrites it and instead has Yajirobe talking about how he might try to help Goku out by attacking from behind. And while the lines about the Triple Strike/Spirit Bomb are relatively similar, the original dub still seems to hedge closer to the original dialogue. I mean, what the hell? By this point, they had long since had Simmons on board, so it's not like they didn't have access to actual translations. It certainly wasn't in their best interests financially to rewrite dialogue. And if they were going to go to the trouble of doing so, why make up completely random things when you already had a more accurate attempt when you were green?

Sorry. Getting a bit off-topic, but FUNimation never ceases to confuse me, no matter what the era.

[Soppa Saia People]

Maybe because it had bomb in the title ?

[TheGreatness25]

Goku also said, "Now I see. He's the one responsible for destroying the Martial Arts stadium. Yeah, and he's the one who stomped on all of those innocent people and stepped on my grandfather."

But all silliness aside, the lines are:

Goku: "I've got something I to give him that he'll wish he'd never seen - the power of a triple strike!"
Kaio: "What's this? Hm... A triple strike? I don't advise it. His power is incredibly low and the strain may be too much for his body to bear. For your sake, I hope that you're able to control the strike, Goku!"

Goku then gets in the pose to gather energy for the Genki Dama. Vegeta interrupts and kicks Goku. And then Goku says, "Now! Kaioken attack!" but he gets swapped away by Vegeta's tail.

I think I always interpreted it as he ws going to use the Kaioken, Genki Dama, and maybe a Kamehame-Ha or something all together.

[Sandubadear]

Maybe they went with "Triple Strike" because later Goku gives the energy, Kuririn forms the attack, and Gohan reflects it.

[ABED]

Maybe they went with "Triple Strike" because later Goku gives the energy, Kuririn forms the attack, and Gohan reflects it.

Gohan and Kuririn weren't there and at that point, he neither knew they would come back nor would have asked them to.

[Sandubadear]

Maybe they went with "Triple Strike" because later Goku gives the energy, Kuririn forms the attack, and Gohan reflects it.

Gohan and Kuririn weren't there and at that point, he neither knew they would come back nor would have asked them to.

Yeah, but the translators probably saw the episodes in advance before translating them. So when they saw it, they thought "hey, they did a triple-attack here, so let's name it Triple Strike".

..unless it's actually named "Spirit Bomb" when Kuririn threw the attack. Never saw the Ocean dub so I'm just guessing.

[dario03]

Starting to come back to me.

I guess I interpreted that as Kaio-Ken 3X, rather than the Genki-Dama. That ties in with the whole "body can't take it" thing going on. Was he already in Kaio-Ken 3X at that point, though?

Pretty sure he was only using regular KK at the time. He wasn't using 3x because of the strain from the 4x earlier. And I'm pretty much positive that he is talking about KK not Spirit Bomb.

[90sDBZ]

Starting to come back to me.

I guess I interpreted that as Kaio-Ken 3X, rather than the Genki-Dama. That ties in with the whole "body can't take it" thing going on. Was he already in Kaio-Ken 3X at that point, though?

Pretty sure he was only using regular KK at the time. He wasn't using 3x because of the strain from the 4x earlier. And I'm pretty much positive that he is talking about KK not Spirit Bomb.

But it had to be the Spirit Bomb. He'd already used the Kaio-ken x4 during the beam struggle, which didn't even finish off a regular Vegeta, so I very much doubt he'd make a big deal out of using x3 again on a Great Ape. It's clear from King Kai's reaction that Goku was referring to something other than Kaioken. And I'm pretty sure he can only use Kaioken in short bursts at this point.

[ABED]

Maybe they went with "Triple Strike" because later Goku gives the energy, Kuririn forms the attack, and Gohan reflects it.

Gohan and Kuririn weren't there and at that point, he neither knew they would come back nor would have asked them to.

<br abp="759">Yeah, but the translators probably saw the episodes in advance before translating them. So when they saw it, they thought "hey, they did a triple-attack here, so let's name it Triple Strike".<br abp="760"><br abp="761">..unless it's actually named "Spirit Bomb" when Kuririn threw the attack. Never saw the Ocean dub so I'm just guessing.

THat still doesn't make any sense. Goku doesn't know they are coming and he's not counting on it. It's far more likely an embelishment made by people who weren't familiar with the property.