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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:14 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Probably been done to death at this point but -

SSGSS Goku VS Super Yi Xing Long.

I personally see this as a repeat of Goku VS Golden Freeza, though Freeza doesnt have a stamina issue with the form.
Omega Shenron gets crushed. The God tier characters in Z/Super are so above top tier fighters in GT at this stage, that it's not even funny.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:44 pm

Gouub (Gohan + majin uub GT, porta fusions) vs 4th form frieza (after training)?
Vegito ssj3, the last namekian, and God buu vs 60% Berrus?
Ssj5 goku (dragon ball af) vs ssjgod goku?
Ssj blue Broly vs 80% Beerus?

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:56 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Probably been done to death at this point but -

SSGSS Goku VS Super Yi Xing Long.

I personally see this as a repeat of Goku VS Golden Freeza, though Freeza doesn't have a stamina issue with the form.
I have Omega as far above the Gods so he stomps Goku into dust.
Based on what? Omega has nothing to put him at the current Super characters.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSGSS Vegetto » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:00 am

I don't know whether this battle would have already taken place or not, because I am new and I can't review these 1k+ pages;

SSGSS Vegetto vs. Beerus (100% Power)

Edit: I wanted to add another fight, not to spam with multi-posts;

SSGSS Vegetto vs. Whis (Both at full power)
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSGSS Vegetto » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:19 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Probably been done to death at this point but -

SSGSS Goku VS Super Yi Xing Long.

I personally see this as a repeat of Goku VS Golden Freeza, though Freeza doesnt have a stamina issue with the form.
I would say Goku stomps this one. Most of the people believe that GT took place way after Z/Super, which it actually did, so the characters from that plot are way much stronger, actually, if you consider Super, some of them are not, Super Saiyan God is a level beyond a single Saiyan's reach, whereas talking about SSJ4, I personally believe it's just a combination, if not, a multiplication of the Oozaru and the Super Saiyan form, I don't put it more than 1000x base or maximum 2000-3000x base, whereas talking about SSJ God, even more, SSGSS, I don't think SSJ4 is even comparable to SSGSS, even SSJ God, I agree GT took place after Z/Super, but Super came out after GT, so literally, Super's characters (not all of them, but some) are stronger than GT ones. So, I come to the conclusion that, though it would be an epic battle, but SSGSS Goku would win by a little, if not, a large margin.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:02 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Probably been done to death at this point but -

SSGSS Goku VS Super Yi Xing Long.

I personally see this as a repeat of Goku VS Golden Freeza, though Freeza doesnt have a stamina issue with the form.
Goku sneezes and accidentally kills Yi Xing Long,All you need to do is to watch episode 12/13/14 of Super and you will get the answer of this match.
ekrolo2 wrote:I have Omega as far above the Gods so he stomps Goku into dust.
Since Super and GT are different continuity,the only way to determine who's stronger between the two is by using feats.Theres nothing in GT that makes there characters to even
Galaxy level whereas Beerus' feats makes him Universe level.Beerus' solos the DB GT verse using less than 1% of his full power.
Berserker1921 wrote:Gouub (Gohan + majin uub GT, porta fusions) vs 4th form Freeza (after training)?
Vegito ssj3, the last namekian, and God buu vs 60% Berrus?
Ssj5 goku (dragon ball af) vs ssjgod goku?

Ssj blue Broly vs 80% Beerus?
-The gap is way too big that even an SSJ4 Vegetto would get one shotted by Freeza.
-Beerus wins due to feats.
-Same as above
-AT stated that the power of the SSG depends on how strong the user is,Broly is nowhere near as strong as Goku in Super that even 50% Beerus would easily defeat Broly.
SSGSS Vegetto wrote:I don't know whether this battle would have already taken place or not, because I am new and I can't review these 1k+ pages;

SSGSS Vegetto vs. Beerus (100% Power)

Edit:I wanted to add another fight, not to spam with multi-posts;

SSGSS Vegetto vs. Whis (Both at full power)
-If the multiplyer is the same as in the Buu Saga,even Base God Vegetto would one shot Beerus.
-Same as above although it wont easy this time since Whis has perfect defense.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSGSS Vegetto » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:12 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
Berserker1921 wrote:Gouub (Gohan + majin uub GT, porta fusions) vs 4th form Freeza (after training)?
Vegito ssj3, the last namekian, and God buu vs 60% Berrus?
Ssj5 goku (dragon ball af) vs ssjgod goku?

Ssj blue Broly vs 80% Beerus?
-The gap is way too big that even an SSJ4 Vegetto would get one shotted by Freeza.
-Beerus wins due to feats.
-Same as above
-AT stated that the power of the SSG depends on how strong the user is,Broly is nowhere near as Goku by Super that even 50% Beerus would easily defeat Broly.
I personally do not agree with the SSJ4 Vegetto statement, like come on, post SSGSS transformed Goku and Vegeta fuse into SSJ4 Vegetto... I don't think Frieza could stomp post SSGSS transformed Goku and Vegeta fused into SSJ4 Vegetto, by the way, he never asked about SSJ4 Vegetto, for the second one, I agree that Beerus wins due to feats., the 3rd one, yes SSJ God Goku wins because of feats., and the fourth one, agreed with you again, Broly is far, far a quadrillion-quintillion times far away from Beerus...

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:18 am

SSGSS Vegetto wrote:
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
Berserker1921 wrote:Gouub (Gohan + majin uub GT, porta fusions) vs 4th form Freeza (after training)?
Vegito ssj3, the last namekian, and God buu vs 60% Berrus?
Ssj5 goku (dragon ball af) vs ssjgod goku?

Ssj blue Broly vs 80% Beerus?
-The gap is way too big that even an SSJ4 Vegetto would get one shotted by Freeza.
-Beerus wins due to feats.
-Same as above
-AT stated that the power of the SSG depends on how strong the user is,Broly is nowhere near as Goku by Super that even 50% Beerus would easily defeat Broly.
I personally do not agree with the SSJ4 Vegetto statement, like come on, post SSGSS transformed Goku and Vegeta fuse into SSJ4 Vegetto... I don't think Freeza could stomp post SSGSS transformed Goku and Vegeta fused into SSJ4 Vegetto, by the way, he never asked about SSJ4 Vegetto, for the second one, I agree that Beerus wins due to feats., the 3rd one, yes SSJ God Goku wins because of feats., and the fourth one, agreed with you again, Broly is far, far a quadrillion-quintillion times far away from Beerus...
-What i mean is that a hypothetical DB GT SSJ4 Vegetto would get one shotted by Freeza not a hypothetical DB Super SSGSS Vegetto.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSGSS Vegetto » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:29 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
SSGSS Vegetto wrote:I personally do not agree with the SSJ4 Vegetto statement, like come on, post SSGSS transformed Goku and Vegeta fuse into SSJ4 Vegetto... I don't think Freeza could stomp post SSGSS transformed Goku and Vegeta fused into SSJ4 Vegetto, by the way, he never asked about SSJ4 Vegetto, for the second one, I agree that Beerus wins due to feats., the 3rd one, yes SSJ God Goku wins because of feats., and the fourth one, agreed with you again, Broly is far, far a quadrillion-quintillion times far away from Beerus...
-What i mean is that a hypothetical DB GT SSJ4 Vegetto would get one shotted by Freeza not a hypothetical DB Super SSGSS Vegetto.
Even if we are talking about GT, it would be an epic battle, then I am not sure who would be the winner, because it is Vegetto man, Goku's battle power x Vegeta's battle power, then SSJ4 powerup, can't say anything, anyways, who is Bullza?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:14 am

SSGSS Vegetto wrote:
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
SSGSS Vegetto wrote:I personally do not agree with the SSJ4 Vegetto statement, like come on, post SSGSS transformed Goku and Vegeta fuse into SSJ4 Vegetto... I don't think Freeza could stomp post SSGSS transformed Goku and Vegeta fused into SSJ4 Vegetto, by the way, he never asked about SSJ4 Vegetto, for the second one, I agree that Beerus wins due to feats., the 3rd one, yes SSJ God Goku wins because of feats., and the fourth one, agreed with you again, Broly is far, far a quadrillion-quintillion times far away from Beerus...
-What i mean is that a hypothetical DB GT SSJ4 Vegetto would get one shotted by Freeza not a hypothetical DB Super SSGSS Vegetto.
Even if we are talking about GT, it would be an epic battle, then I am not sure who would be the winner, because it is Vegetto man, Goku's battle power x Vegeta's battle power, then SSJ4 powerup, can't say anything, anyways, who is Bullza?
I dont believe that Vegetto is Goku times Vegeta,that would make even Freeza saga Vegetto at ridiculous level.an ''x'' have many different meanings,i could be pairs,Versus battle,multiplyer etc...

Bullza is another member here that have the same avatar as yours.

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Post by SSGSS Vegetto » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:17 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:I dont believe that Vegetto is Goku times Vegeta,that would make even Freeza saga Vegetto at ridiculous level.an ''x'' have many different meanings,i could be pairs,Versus battle,multiplyer etc...

Bullza is another member here that have the same avatar as yours.
But as stated in the Official Battle Power List on the main kanzenshuu website, the MULTIPLIER for Potara is X's battle power x Y's battle power, it may not be that much, but you see what Buuhan did with Goku and Vegeta and even when injured, they fused and what they became, and I agree with you, even Vegetto in Freeza saga would be at a ridiculous level. And what is wrong if two people have the same avatar?

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Post by ahill1 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:27 am

SSGSS Vegetto wrote:
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:I dont believe that Vegetto is Goku times Vegeta,that would make even Freeza saga Vegetto at ridiculous level.an ''x'' have many different meanings,i could be pairs,Versus battle,multiplyer etc...

Bullza is another member here that have the same avatar as yours.
But as stated in the Official Battle Power List on the main kanzenshuu website, the MULTIPLIER for Potara is X's battle power x Y's battle power, it may not be that much, but you see what Buuhan did with Goku and Vegeta and even when injured, they fused and what they became, and I agree with you, even Vegetto in Freeza saga would be at a ridiculous level. And what is wrong if two people have the same avatar?
I don't think AxB is accurate. This would mean that a fusion between 2 Roshis is stronger than Vegeta (Saiyan saga).

139 x 139 = 19,321.

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Post by SSGSS Vegetto » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:30 am

ahill1 wrote:
SSGSS Vegetto wrote:
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:I dont believe that Vegetto is Goku times Vegeta,that would make even Freeza saga Vegetto at ridiculous level.an ''x'' have many different meanings,i could be pairs,Versus battle,multiplyer etc...

Bullza is another member here that have the same avatar as yours.
But as stated in the Official Battle Power List on the main kanzenshuu website, the MULTIPLIER for Potara is X's battle power x Y's battle power, it may not be that much, but you see what Buuhan did with Goku and Vegeta and even when injured, they fused and what they became, and I agree with you, even Vegetto in Freeza saga would be at a ridiculous level. And what is wrong if two people have the same avatar?
I don't think AxB is accurate. This would mean that a fusion between 2 Roshis is stronger than Vegeta (Saiyan saga).

139 x 139 = 19,321.
But then again, how were Goku and Vegeta, very near to death (Super Buu's dominance), able to blast away Super Buu by fusing but were only wanting to rescue Gohan, Trunks, Goten and Piccolo from inside Super Buu, you've got to explain this too...

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Super Jenemba vs Kid Buu

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Post by SSGSS Vegetto » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:43 am

AvatarReiko wrote:Super Jenemba vs Kid Buu
Super Janemba wins. SSJ3 Goku was able to keep up for a long time against Kid Buu, whereas Super Janemba outclassed his SSJ3 form within minutes and he had to fuse with Vegeta, who was also outclassed, in order to defeat him.

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Post by ekrolo2 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:46 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Probably been done to death at this point but -

SSGSS Goku VS Super Yi Xing Long.

I personally see this as a repeat of Goku VS Golden Freeza, though Freeza doesnt have a stamina issue with the form.
Goku sneezes and accidentally kills Yi Xing Long,All you need to do is to watch episode 12/13/14 of Super and you will get the answer of this match.
ekrolo2 wrote:I have Omega as far above the Gods so he stomps Goku into dust.
Since Super and GT are different continuity,the only way to determine who's stronger between the two is by using feats.Theres nothing in GT that makes there characters to even
Galaxy level whereas Beerus' feats makes him Universe level.Beerus' solos the DB GT verse using less than 1% of his full power.
I use power scaling instead of feats mostly because feats in DB anywhere are wildly inconsistent and because Supers whole 10% thing with LAWLRAGITUH pretty much cemented my original assumption that the Gods aren't really as strong as people thought they are. Here's where I stack up the characters up as if they existed side by side:

LAWLRAGITUH = SSJ GT Kid Goku: 0.125
SSJ2 GT Kid Goku: 0.25
SSJ3 GT Kid Goku: 1
SSJ4 Goku (Baby Saga): 12
- Shadow Dragon Saga: 14
Omega: 17
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Post by Noah » Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:18 am

I don't think Beerus would solo the GTverse, for me:

SSJ4 Gogeta > Whis
Omega Shenron > Beerus
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Post by SSGSS Vegetto » Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:53 am

Though he is not canon, but I still wanted to know who would win in a fight;

Beerus vs. Demon God Demigra (Final Form)

Both could go at full power if needed, personally, I think Beerus would easily stomp him, still want to hear your reviews.

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Post by Khin » Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:04 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:I use power scaling instead of feats mostly because feats in DB anywhere are wildly inconsistent and because Supers whole 10% thing with LAWLRAGITUH pretty much cemented my original assumption that the Gods aren't really as strong as people thought they are. Here's where I stack up the characters up as if they existed side by side:

LAWLRAGITUH = SSJ GT Kid Goku: 0.125
SSJ2 GT Kid Goku: 0.25
SSJ3 GT Kid Goku: 1
SSJ4 Goku (Baby Saga): 12
- Shadow Dragon Saga: 14
Omega: 17
Where do you even scale them? we dont even know how strong SSJ God is compared to SSJ3.
Noah wrote:I don't think Beerus would solo the GTverse, for me:

SSJ4 Gogeta > Whis
Omega Shenron > Beerus
For what reason actually?
SSGSS Vegetto wrote:Though he is not canon, but I still wanted to know who would win in a fight;

Beerus vs. Demon God Demigra (Final Form)

Both could go at full power if needed, personally, I think Beerus would easily stomp him, still want to hear your reviews.
Beerus stomps,he and Whis dont even consider Demigra as a threat.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:15 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:I use power scaling instead of feats mostly because feats in DB anywhere are wildly inconsistent and because Supers whole 10% thing with LAWLRAGITUH pretty much cemented my original assumption that the Gods aren't really as strong as people thought they are. Here's where I stack up the characters up as if they existed side by side:

LAWLRAGITUH = SSJ GT Kid Goku: 0.125
SSJ2 GT Kid Goku: 0.25
SSJ3 GT Kid Goku: 1
SSJ4 Goku (Baby Saga): 12
- Shadow Dragon Saga: 14
Omega: 17
Where do you even scale them? we dont even know how strong SSJ God is compared to SSJ3.
We know that Goku, even as a kid, has a base strength more or less on par with Kid Boo during GT which makes him at best marginally weaker than SSJ3 BoG Goku. Rageta is completely ridiculous, but I think making him 50 stronger than SSJ3 Goku is the best out of a worst situation. I know a lot of people think he's above SSJ3 Vegetto, but I'll swallow a cyanide pill before accepting this. It just reeks of the old bullshit where every fanboy spouted "GOKU IS A QUINTILLION TIMES STRONGER THAN ON NAMEK WHEN HE FIGHTS 19!" as if it was a fact.

The way I interpret the God boost is this: you want to get to SSJ3 Vegetto levels of power? You become a God. Once I take all this into account on top of the GT stuff, the numbers just start speaking for themselves, GT tier > God tier
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