DB super canon ?

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Re: DB super canon ?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:59 am

Well Ginyu is coming back soon and yet in GT, we see him back in his original body. Unless his original body somehow comes back, we can add it to the list of things that GT can no longer fit now.
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Re: DB super canon ?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:45 am

ekrolo2 wrote:
Geekdom101 wrote:There's three canons now for the 10 year time skip:

1. Movies (BOG and RF)
2. Manga (Toyotaro)
3. Super Anime.


Pick which one you like the most.
You forgot the original one, the one where nothing happens ;)
And the fifth one where 2008 special happens.
And the sixth one where movie 13 happens.

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Re: DB super canon ?

Post by GTX » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:22 pm

In my opinion it's not canon. Too many inconsistencies and wtf moment for me to say it's canon. It didn't reach the canon standard yet, you may care or not about canonity though in dragonball. Canon that's stated by the mass are fanon you should'nt have care too much about it.
The question has been asked by you 10000000000 times and we have become very efficient.
I don't care about non canon stuffs like game, guide book, movie, etc
Spare the trouble because GT is CANON
Be quick and be done with it
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Re: DB super canon ?

Post by irreality » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:58 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
Geekdom101 wrote:There's three canons now for the 10 year time skip:

1. Movies (BOG and RF)
2. Manga (Toyotaro)
3. Super Anime.


Pick which one you like the most.
You forgot the original one, the one where nothing happens ;)
And the fifth one where 2008 special happens.
And the sixth one where movie 13 happens.
The 2008 Special is part of #1, though. They mention Tarble in BoG. So it is not separate.
Movie #13 isn't confirmed or denied by any continuity, so it can fit anywhere or nowhere -- doesn't need to be a separate thing.

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Re: DB super canon ?

Post by Cetra » Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:10 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Well Ginyu is coming back soon and yet in GT, we see him back in his original body. Unless his original body somehow comes back, we can add it to the list of things that GT can no longer fit now.
Not only does this not matter at all, I don't know where you have seen Ginyu with his body in GT.
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Post by Sandubadear » Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:26 pm

Ginyu's body is seen in line to Enma's judgement in the Super 17 arc. Hardly matters though, you could also say it was Tagoma in Ginyu's body or whatever happens.
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Re: DB super canon ?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:21 pm

soppa saia people wrote:
HybridSaiyan wrote:Doesn't Super make EOZ not canon? Since Bulla is a year older than Pan and Bulla is nowhere to be seen in Super yet.
I'm surprised Bulla isn't a word fillter considering it's censership.
I think it is because Bulla is a legit word like Bills, according to google, Bulla is "an abnormal air-filled cavity in the lung.".

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Re: DB super canon ?

Post by irreality » Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:45 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
soppa saia people wrote: I'm surprised Bulla isn't a word fillter considering it's censership.
I think it is because Bulla is a legit word like Bills, according to google, Bulla is "an abnormal air-filled cavity in the lung.".
My guess is that it is a valid romanization of "bu-ra" just like Bulma/Bluma/Buruma or Kuririn/Krillin/Kulilin are all valid romanizations, even if they don't preserve the name pun. The names that are filtered are not valid romanizations but completely adapted names.

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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:46 pm

Honestly, it was just overlooked back when we set them all up. I'd probably have added it if I remembered it.

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Post by DragonHermit » Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:19 pm

The movies mention Bulla and Vegeta's brother who are non-cannon, therefore their cannonness is revoked.

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Post by Soppa Saia People » Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:53 pm

DragonHermit wrote:The movies mention Bulla and Vegeta's brother who are non-cannon, therefore their cannonness is revoked.
Bra was shown at EOZ. I don't see your point.
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Post by DragonHermit » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:21 pm

Sorry, I meant Bulma's sister :D. Unless they decide to make her cannon.

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Post by Cetra » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:25 pm

DragonHermit wrote:Sorry, I meant Bulma's sister :D. Unless they decide to make her cannon.
The word is either "canon" or "canonical". And such a thing does not exist in Dragon Ball.
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Post by irreality » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:35 pm

DragonHermit wrote:Sorry, I meant Bulma's sister :D. Unless they decide to make her cannon.
Why would Tights not be canon? Jaco is canon and Bulma's family knows Jaco throught her.

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Post by yamu » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:52 pm

Tights got a name drop in FnF, and was in a Toriyama created manga, so I consider her as canon as anything else from the original material. Of course I like the character, so that helps too. :D

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Post by Kuririn Fan » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:01 am

irreality wrote:
Kuririn Fan wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
You forgot the original one, the one where nothing happens ;)
And the fifth one where 2008 special happens.
And the sixth one where movie 13 happens.
The 2008 Special is part of #1, though. They mention Tarble in BoG. So it is not separate.
Movie #13 isn't confirmed or denied by any continuity, so it can fit anywhere or nowhere -- doesn't need to be a separate thing.
I know, i was joking. I don't like multiple timelines or whatever as an answer to the canon.

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Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:41 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Well Ginyu is coming back soon and yet in GT, we see him back in his original body. Unless his original body somehow comes back, we can add it to the list of things that GT can no longer fit now.
Maybe Ginyu's body doesn't have ginyu in it....just the soul of the frog he switched with. The frog escaped from hell. And he's evil. Either a ridiculous inside Joke from Toei, or Gt has the death of ginyu and the frog=ginyu getting his old body back? Or it's a animation error,either way it doesn't matter because GT is canon to Ball and Z,while super is canon either to just the manga or better yet,kai.

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super's manga-not really a canon,just a promotional look/preview of what will sorta happen in the anime. It skips around to much to be considered as a serious story.
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Re: DB super canon ?

Post by Soppa Saia People » Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:00 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Well Ginyu is coming back soon and yet in GT, we see him back in his original body. Unless his original body somehow comes back, we can add it to the list of things that GT can no longer fit now.
Maybe Ginyu's body doesn't have ginyu in it....just the soul of the frog he switched with. The frog escaped from hell. And he's evil. Either a ridiculous inside Joke from Toei, or Gt has the death of ginyu and the frog=ginyu getting his old body back? Or it's a animation error,either way it doesn't matter because GT is canon to Ball and Z,while super is canon either to just the manga or better yet,kai.

Kai-super

ball-Z-GT

Manga-bog-ROF

super's manga-not really a canon,just a promotional look/preview of what will sorta happen in the anime. It skips around to much to be considered as a serious story.
? Why do you say "better yet" ? Z and Kai are basically the same.
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Re: DB super canon ?

Post by BrolyLSSJ » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:06 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Well Ginyu is coming back soon and yet in GT, we see him back in his original body. Unless his original body somehow comes back, we can add it to the list of things that GT can no longer fit now.
Maybe Ginyu's body doesn't have ginyu in it....just the soul of the frog he switched with. The frog escaped from hell. And he's evil. Either a ridiculous inside Joke from Toei, or Gt has the death of ginyu and the frog=ginyu getting his old body back? Or it's a animation error,either way it doesn't matter because GT is canon to Ball and Z,while super is canon either to just the manga or better yet,kai.

Kai-super

ball-Z-GT

Manga-bog-ROF

super's manga-not really a canon,just a promotional look/preview of what will sorta happen in the anime. It skips around to much to be considered as a serious story.
Manga=Canon tho.
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Re: DB super canon ?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:40 pm

Manga is definitive canon, everything else is arguable.

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