The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[GTX]

GT is clearly wacky with their feats, like SS4 Goku being cut by glass. Heck, even speed feats in Z are inconsistent. I find it dumb to try and draw comparisons with Super's feats when I doubt they'll even stay consistent later on.

I simply have Gods above GT for arbitrary power-scaling reasons, not because of non-comparable "feats".

You're totally wrong.
You must be mean this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Gw2FlypFA
1.The blood come from the few second before when goku spit blood.
2. The blood from his scratched hand when fighting
3. He say oh man i'm beat/ hurt ( look this blood sort of). In original raw he did not say anything when touching it.

[AvatarReiko]

End of Buu-saga Goku runs the one shot gauntlet...

Conditons: To win each round, Goku must be able to KO/Incapcitate/Kill each opponent with a single punch(a physcal attack, no Ki blasts). If he cant, then he loses.

1.) Frieza 1st Form (Frieza Saga)
2.) Frieza Final Form (Frieza Saga)
3.) SSJ Goku (Frieza Saga)
4.) Dr Gero
5.) SSJ Future Trunks (Androidd Saga)
6.) Kamicollo
7.) Android 16
8.) Semi-Perfect Cell
9.) USSJ Trunks
10.) Dabura
11.) Perfect Cell
12.) Super Perfect
13.) SSJ2 Gohan

Round 1:Goku is in base
Round 2: Goku as a super saiyan
Round 3:Goku as a super saiyan 2

[ekrolo2]

End of Buu-saga Goku runs the one shot gauntlet...

Conditons: To win each round, Goku must be able to KO/Incapcitate/Kill each opponent with a single punch(a physcal attack, no Ki blasts). If he cant, then he loses.

1.) Freeza 1st Form (Freeza Saga)
2.) Freeza Final Form (Freeza Saga)
3.) SSJ Goku (Freeza Saga)
4.) Dr Gero
5.) SSJ Future Trunks (Androidd Saga)
6.) Kamicollo
7.) Android 16
8.) Semi-Perfect Cell
9.) USSJ Trunks
10.) Dabura
11.) Perfect Cell
12.) Super Perfect
13.) SSJ2 Gohan

Round 1:Goku is in base
Round 2: Goku as a super saiyan
Round 3:Goku as a super saiyan 2

Round One: Final Form Freeza kills him.
Round Two: He gets to SPC
Round Three: He wins the whole gauntlet.

[ZombieVito]

End of Buu-saga Goku runs the one shot gauntlet...

Conditons: To win each round, Goku must be able to KO/Incapcitate/Kill each opponent with a single punch(a physcal attack, no Ki blasts). If he cant, then he loses.

1.) Freeza 1st Form (Freeza Saga)
2.) Freeza Final Form (Freeza Saga)
3.) SSJ Goku (Freeza Saga)
4.) Dr Gero
5.) SSJ Future Trunks (Androidd Saga)
6.) Kamicollo
7.) Android 16
8.) Semi-Perfect Cell
9.) USSJ Trunks
10.) Dabura
11.) Perfect Cell
12.) Super Perfect
13.) SSJ2 Gohan

Round 1:Goku is in base
Round 2: Goku as a super saiyan
Round 3:Goku as a super saiyan 2

Round 1: loses to #2.
Round 2: loses to #10.
Round 3: loses to #12.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Conditons: To win each round, Goku must be able to KO/Incapcitate/Kill each opponent with a single punch(a physcal attack, no Ki blasts). If he cant, then he loses.

1.) Freeza 1st Form (Freeza Saga)
2.) Freeza Final Form (Freeza Saga)
3.) SSJ Goku (Freeza Saga)
4.) Dr Gero
5.) SSJ Future Trunks (Androidd Saga)
6.) Kamicollo
7.) Android 16
8.) Semi-Perfect Cell
9.) USSJ Trunks
10.) Dabura
11.) Perfect Cell
12.) Super Perfect
13.) SSJ2 Gohan

Round 1:Goku is in base
Round 2: Goku as a super saiyan
Round 3:Goku as a super saiyan 2

Round 1: Stops at 7
Round 2: Stops at 11
Round 3: Stops at 12

[ekrolo2]

Wow, you guys really think Goku can't one shot Cell Games Gohan as an SSJ2?

[ZombieVito]

Wow, you guys really think Goku can't one shot Cell Games Gohan as an SSJ2?

No. Piccolo couldn't even tell if Majin Vegeta was stronger than Gohan.

[ekrolo2]

Wow, you guys really think Goku can't one shot Cell Games Gohan as an SSJ2?

No. Piccolo couldn't even tell if Majin Vegeta was stronger than Gohan.

True, though Vegeta does say Goku, upon turning SSJ2 got stronger than Gohan. I don't think its a big gap between them but I think he could manage to one shot him anyway.

[kidhero1000]

Does anyone remember that in the original Eradicate the Saiyans OVA, there was meant to be a scenario where Gohan Transformed into a SSJ2, but still ended up being defeated by Hatchiyack?

[Captain Space]

I would imagine SSJ2 Goku/Majin Vegeta to only be a bit stronger than Cell Games Gohan, yeah. It'd probably be something like a Goku vs. Beerus situation in how the fight played out, how much of an advantage there is.

Does anyone remember that in the original Eradicate the Saiyans OVA, there was meant to be a scenario where Gohan Transformed into a SSJ2, but still ended up being defeated by Hatchiyack?

I did not know that, no. But I guess if he's supposed to be stronger than Broly who's like...nearly-but-not-quite-SSJ2-tier, then why not.

[SSGSS Vegetto]

End of Buu-saga Goku runs the one shot gauntlet...

Conditons: To win each round, Goku must be able to KO/Incapcitate/Kill each opponent with a single punch(a physcal attack, no Ki blasts). If he cant, then he loses.

1.) Freeza 1st Form (Freeza Saga)
2.) Freeza Final Form (Freeza Saga)
3.) SSJ Goku (Freeza Saga)
4.) Dr Gero
5.) SSJ Future Trunks (Androidd Saga)
6.) Kamicollo
7.) Android 16
8.) Semi-Perfect Cell
9.) USSJ Trunks
10.) Dabura
11.) Perfect Cell
12.) Super Perfect
13.) SSJ2 Gohan

Round 1:Goku is in base
Round 2: Goku as a super saiyan
Round 3:Goku as a super saiyan 2

I wanted to tell all of you that don't take into account what Beerus said in BoG about Goku not being able to defeat Final Form Freeza (100% Power), let's get to the fact that did Toriyama write this in Super? No, he did not. He, had various Zenkai boosts at various points of the plot, he trained for 3 years for the androids, I think only that puts him above Final Form Freeza (100% Power), then fighting all the Anroids and Cell and probably fighting some worthy other world opponents, probably would've increased his power and fighting experience by a large margin, then comes the OTHER WORLD training which goku kept on doing for 7 YEARS. Now, speculate it for yourself, how many Zenkai boosts would he had come up with, how much he would've experienced and powered up from the other world and the trainings, now let's get to the rounds:

Round 1: Considering his 7 years' training, it would probably end at Semi-Perfect Cell.
Round 2: He might be on par with USSJ Trunks.
Round 3: He solos all of them.

[LightBing]

I wanted to tell all of you that don't take into account what Beerus said in BoG about Goku not being able to defeat Final Form Freeza (100% Power), let's get to the fact that did Toriyama write this in Super? No, he did not. He, had various Zenkai boosts at various points of the plot, he trained for 3 years for the androids, I think only that puts him above Final Form Freeza (100% Power), then fighting all the Anroids and Cell and probably fighting some worthy other world opponents, probably would've increased his power and fighting experience by a large margin, then comes the OTHER WORLD training which goku kept on doing for 7 YEARS. Now, speculate it for yourself, how many Zenkai boosts would he had come up with, how much he would've experienced and powered up from the other world and the trainings, now let's get to the rounds:

Round 1: Considering his 7 years' training, it would probably end at Semi-Perfect Cell.
Round 2: He might be on par with USSJ Trunks.
Round 3: He solos all of them.

The line you're referring is in Super, almost word for word. The moment Saiyans turned SSJ, it seems zenkais disappeared or become so insignificant they don't matter anymore. The exception being Perfect Cell, but he's a freak and shouldn't be include in the Saiyan category.

[SSGSS Vegetto]

I wanted to tell all of you that don't take into account what Beerus said in BoG about Goku not being able to defeat Final Form Freeza (100% Power), let's get to the fact that did Toriyama write this in Super? No, he did not. He, had various Zenkai boosts at various points of the plot, he trained for 3 years for the androids, I think only that puts him above Final Form Freeza (100% Power), then fighting all the Anroids and Cell and probably fighting some worthy other world opponents, probably would've increased his power and fighting experience by a large margin, then comes the OTHER WORLD training which goku kept on doing for 7 YEARS. Now, speculate it for yourself, how many Zenkai boosts would he had come up with, how much he would've experienced and powered up from the other world and the trainings, now let's get to the rounds:

Round 1: Considering his 7 years' training, it would probably end at Semi-Perfect Cell.
Round 2: He might be on par with USSJ Trunks.
Round 3: He solos all of them.

The line you're referring is in Super, almost word for word. The moment Saiyans turned SSJ, it seems zenkais disappeared or become so insignificant they don't matter anymore. The exception being Perfect Cell, but he's a freak and shouldn't be include in the Saiyan category.

What about we leave the Zenkai boosts and go towards the training he did in the living world for 3 years and in the other world for 7 years?

[LightBing]

What about we leave the Zenkai boosts and go towards the training he did in the living world for 3 years and in the other world for 7 years?

But did they ever trained their base after achieving SSJ? We only see them train Super Saiyan and try to achieve new forms. I think training in a transformed state doesn't translate into a significant increase of base. Plus Goku decision to master SSJ, kinda excludes the need to have a high base. It would make sense to increase the base, so the profit of the multiplier is bigger. The decision, for me, makes it seem that the two states are separated. That's why base wasn't trained and every Saiyan didn't have that big of an increase, after Namek.

I think the comment made by Beerus, is Mr.Toriyama way of making things clear; since there's so many confusing statements in the Boo Arc.

[ekrolo2]

Time for the big one guys....

GT Goku, with GT Vegeta's mustache on his face, duel wielding potential unlocked Sorbet rings vs Legendary Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 4 Gogetto (the Potara fusion of Vegetto & Gogeta).

[GTX]

Time for the big one guys....

GT Goku, with GT Vegeta's mustache, duel wielding potential unlocked Sorbet rings vs Legendary Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 4 Gogetto (the Potara fusion of Vegetto & Gogeta).

GT goku has tail so vegeta will lose because he cannot change into ssj 4.
Ssj 4 cannot be harmed by weapon or sort of.
So it will be unscathed and one shoted it.

[voltlunok]

Time for the big one guys....

GT Goku, with GT Vegeta's mustache on his face, duel wielding potential unlocked Sorbet rings vs Legendary Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 4 Gogetto (the Potara fusion of Vegetto & Gogeta).

The mustache takes this with ease. GT Goku is just pulling a Goten here to run up the score, the rings are also pointless cause again...it's all in the mustache!

[Khin]

End of Buu-saga Goku runs the one shot gauntlet...

Conditons: To win each round, Goku must be able to KO/Incapcitate/Kill each opponent with a single punch(a physcal attack, no Ki blasts). If he cant, then he loses.

1.) Freeza 1st Form (Freeza Saga)
2.) Freeza Final Form (Freeza Saga)
3.) SSJ Goku (Freeza Saga)
4.) Dr Gero
5.) SSJ Future Trunks (Androidd Saga)
6.) Kamicollo
7.) Android 16
8.) Semi-Perfect Cell
9.) USSJ Trunks
10.) Dabura
11.) Perfect Cell
12.) Super Perfect
13.) SSJ2 Gohan

Round 1:Goku is in base
Round 2: Goku as a super saiyan
Round 3:Goku as a super saiyan 2

Round 1 : Goku gets one shotted by Final Form Freeza.
Round 2 : Goku can beat Perfect Cell but he cant one shot him
Round 3 : Same as above.Goku can beat Gohan but cant one shot him.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Does anyone remember that in the original Eradicate the Saiyans OVA, there was meant to be a scenario where Gohan Transformed into a SSJ2, but still ended up being defeated by Hatchiyack?

Where did you hear that from?

[BrolyLSSJ]

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