Best Freeza dub voice?

[Soppa Saia People]

Much like most of the villains on Namek, I don't really like any Freeza voice besides the original JP version. So LittleKuriboh (yeah I know it's not a dub voice but I like it better then Young,Newstone and Ayeres)

[ABED]

his voice is AWESOME!

The voice is okay, can't say much about the performance

Ayres is by far the best, but I have a soft spot for Newstone. The dialog she was given wasn't the best, but she had a creepy voice that I could see working for Freeza.

[KaiserNeko]

I'd much rather a "gay British guy" than Genkai from Yu Yu Hakusho.

[FoolsGil]

Ayers was superb in Xenoverse.

[Wezenheim]

I'd much rather a "gay British guy" than Genkai from Yu Yu Hakusho.

Right with you, Kaiser. Besides, I don't see how Ayers makes Freeza sound anymore "gay" than being voiced by an elderly woman. Growing up watching the dub I always assumed that Freeza was a girl until someone in the show referred to him as a he. As others have said, how is an alien, especially an alien in a fictional universe where the author basically dictates how things work, even "supposed" to sound?

To me, Ayers is the best English Freeza we've gotten. Billany would make an awesome Freeza as well if given the chance to voice him seriously. Ayers is pretty close to Nakao in terms of pure enjoyment to listen to. Freeza becomes a much more interesting character, in my opinion, when he is a spoiled, sophisticated sounding tyrant. Young does, in an odd way, sound kind of sinister, but there's more to Freeza's character than that. It's all a matter of preference I suppose.

[Wezenheim]

Ayers was superb in Xenoverse.

I actually agree. Most of the English cast was kind of off sounding in Xenoverse, but Ayers was one of the few that I felt continued to take his parts very seriously.

[Ree]

his voice is AWESOME!

The voice is okay, can't say much about the performance

Ayres is by far the best, but I have a soft spot for Newstone. The dialog she was given wasn't the best, but she had a creepy voice that I could see working for Freeza.

the performance isnt anything special but the voice makes up for it i think.
Newstone did the best rule 63 Frieza so i agree with the last part.

[theoriginalbilis]

For all the crap people give Pauline Newstone, at least she managed to make her Freeza sound intimidating during her stint in the original dub.

Linda Young, I'm sure she's a very lovely person and is definitely talented, but I never felt any menace in her Freeza voice. She's great as cranky martial-arts masters or as grandmas though. Even her voice as Piza felt more natural than her Freeza.

[Lord Exor]

Linda Young by leaps and bounds, and I detect plenty of menace in her performance. This compared to this, for instance. Linda sounds ominous and commanding, while Chris sounds bored and disinterested.

[ABED]

Linda Young by leaps and bounds, and I detect plenty of menace in her performance. This compared to this, for instance. Linda sounds ominous and commanding, while Chris sounds bored and disinterested.

That doesn't sound like boredom at all, he's just not overplaying every... single... line. Menace isn't the same thing as trying to sound evil. She overplays everything. Once again, she's trying too hard to make Freeza sound... EVIL (Dr. Evil pinky gesture)

[Lord Exor]

Nah, he definitely sounds as if the very act of lifting his finger to kill those twerps is tedious. His tone is one of passivity, and Linda, conversely, doesn't sound overdone in the least bit. She's appropriately sinister for a sinister character. Avery Brooks' Dr. Noah character from the "Our Man Bashir" episode of Deep Space Nine would better exemplify villainous overacting, or perhaps Mathew Woods' General Grievous.

[ABED]

Nah, he definitely sounds as if the very act of lifting his finger to kill those twerps is tedious. His tone is one of passivity, and Linda, conversely, doesn't sound overdone in the least bit. She's appropriately sinister for a sinister character. Avery Brooks' Dr. Noah character from the "Our Man Bashir" episode of Deep Space Nine would better exemplify villainous overacting, or perhaps Mathew Woods' General Grievous.

She does, that's stereotypical "evil" acting. She strains to come close to doing anything that comes close to a performance. What is passive about Ayres performance?

To kill those twerps isn't , and he doesn't sound remotely passive, he sounds like he's calmly savoring his revenge like one would a good meal. And truth be told, I don't even dislike overacting if it's entertaining, but her overacting isn't, it's merely the result of lack of ability and probably experience.

Sinister is Mark Pellegrino or Julian Richings on Supernatural, Young is the definition of overacting. They have the ability to go from conversational to scary without missing a beat, she struggles to make even the most innocuous line sound natural. I'm sure Young is a nice lady but she's not a talented actress. Even her best role (Genkai) involved a lot of overacting which got even worse when she was playing the character younger.

[Lord Exor]

You're right, there isn't any trace of subtlety to Linda's performance as Frieza, but there's no struggling involved--it's a deliberate direction. Then again, Frieza isn't a subtle character in a low-budget TV drama; he's an extravagant, larger-than-life antagonist featured in a cartoon about super-powered beings fighting each other. And lets be real here, none of the voice actors for Dragon Ball are providing understated, nuanced performances, especially given anime's penchant for spates of exaggerated histrionic fits.

No matter which version you reference, Frieza remains an abstraction--a caricature. Whether it be Japan's concept of decadent aristocracy, or the West's notion of a psychopathic killer, the character of Frieza is an embellishment meant to conform to the absurdity of the fictional world he resides in.

It's not overacting, but it is over-the-top, and I see no reason why it shouldn't be. Her other roles of Fasha or Piza aren't nearly as ostentatious, and to say that she was green at the time is another distortion of reality. She had plenty of experience in theater and radio prior to being cast as Frieza.

I've heard my fair share of atrocious acting, and rest assured, the anime and gaming industry was rife with it. Linda isn't a horrible actress.

[ABED]

Freeza isn't a subtle character in a low-budget TV drama; he's an extravagant, larger-than-life antagonist featured in a cartoon about super-powered beings fighting each other.

He has layers to him. He's not the same note all the time. He can be larger than life, but then he can also be reserved and contemplative.

No matter which version you reference, Freeza remains an abstraction--a caricature. Whether it be Japan's concept of decadent aristocracy, or the West's notion of a psychopathic killer, the character of Freeza is an embellishment meant to conform to the absurdity of the fictional world he resides in.

That isn't the west's notion of a psychopathic killer, it's a childish take on evil villain. More importantly, that isn't the character. Yes, Freeza is an exaggeration of aristocracy, but even within those confines the performance can have subtler elements, Young has none. She's pure caricature and not even a good one.

It's not overacting, but it is over-the-top, and I see no reason why it shouldn't be. Her other roles of Selypa or Piza aren't nearly as ostentatious, and to say that she was green at the time is another distortion of reality. She had plenty of experience in theater and radio prior to being cast as Freeza.

It doesn't show, and I've seen over the top still be good, she's not that. She has the subtlety of an over the top Bond villain with the charm or the skill of an actor like Gert Frobe or Donald Pleasance. Actually, Piza is very ostentatious, and she's terrible in that role. In fact her "performance" as Piza is rather annoying. Ostentatious is a great word for Young as an actor, it perfectly describes her. Everything is showy with her. It's either, "listen to me, don't I sound dark and evil" or "I'm gleefully evil". If you are correct that she had a lot of experience before being cast, that's even worse because her skill was about the same level as anyone in FUNi's in-house cast in season 3.

I've heard my fair share of atrocious acting, and rest assured, the anime and gaming industry was rife with it. Linda isn't a horrible actress.

Live long enough and you're guaranteed to hear atrocious acting, so your assurance doesn't mean a lot, not to sound rude, but your experience is by no means uncommon. She is an awful actress. I hear nothing from her that gives me goosbumps when she's evil. Her performance doesn't creep me out, and her role as Genkai didn't give me "the feels" when she was dying nor did I believe that she was a wise, tough old broad. I sure as hell didn't believe her acting when she played a 20 year old Genkai. Even as exaggerated as Clarke's Cell was, I still wanted to punch Cell in the mouth for being an arrogant dick.

[Alex9196]

The new english Freeza voice from Kai makes a close second.
But even though I dont like the japanese version, I have to say its the japanese voice of Freeza. I dont know his name but I know he also voiced Tamburin in dragonball and Caesar Clown in One Piece

[Lord Exor]

Freeza isn't a subtle character in a low-budget TV drama; he's an extravagant, larger-than-life antagonist featured in a cartoon about super-powered beings fighting each other.

He has layers to him. He's not the same note all the time. He can be larger than life, but then he can also be reserved and contemplative.

No matter which version you reference, Freeza remains an abstraction--a caricature. Whether it be Japan's concept of decadent aristocracy, or the West's notion of a psychopathic killer, the character of Freeza is an embellishment meant to conform to the absurdity of the fictional world he resides in.

That isn't the west's notion of a psychopathic killer, it's a childish take on evil villain. More importantly, that isn't the character. Yes, Freeza is an exaggeration of aristocracy, but even within those confines the performance can have subtler elements, Young has none. She's pure caricature and not even a good one.

It's not overacting, but it is over-the-top, and I see no reason why it shouldn't be. Her other roles of Selypa or Piza aren't nearly as ostentatious, and to say that she was green at the time is another distortion of reality. She had plenty of experience in theater and radio prior to being cast as Freeza.

It doesn't show, and I've seen over the top still be good, she's not that. She has the subtlety of an over the top Bond villain with the charm or the skill of an actor like Gert Frobe or Donald Pleasance. Actually, Piza is very ostentatious, and she's terrible in that role. In fact her "performance" as Piza is rather annoying. Ostentatious is a great word for Young as an actor, it perfectly describes her. Everything is showy with her. It's either, "listen to me, don't I sound dark and evil" or "I'm gleefully evil". If you are correct that she had a lot of experience before being cast, that's even worse because her skill was about the same level as anyone in FUNi's in-house cast in season 3.

I've heard my fair share of atrocious acting, and rest assured, the anime and gaming industry was rife with it. Linda isn't a horrible actress.

Live long enough and you're guaranteed to hear atrocious acting, so your assurance doesn't mean a lot, not to sound rude, but your experience is by no means uncommon. She is an awful actress. I hear nothing from her that gives me goosbumps when she's evil. Her performance doesn't creep me out, and her role as Genkai didn't give me "the feels" when she was dying nor did I believe that she was a wise, tough old broad. I sure as hell didn't believe her acting when she played a 20 year old Genkai. Even as exaggerated as Clarke's Cell was, I still wanted to punch Cell in the mouth for being an arrogant dick.

I don't agree with your supercilious armchair critic's appraisal of Young's acting, and to be quite blunt, I'm not entirely sure you know what bad acting is.

Dubbing over a foreign production can never qualify as superb acting for a panoply of rather obvious reasons, although there can be commendable attempts. I would rank Linda as a commendable effort alongside Ayres, Sabat, Kent Williams, Chuck Huber, Meredith McCoy, and Clarke; all leagues beyond anything 4kids output for a show like Pokemon.

So in short, this is my response to you from now on.

[ABED]

Dubbing over a foreign production can never qualify as superb acting for a panoply of rather obvious reasons

Well that's just plain not true. And why don't you just write "smug" or "condescending" instead of "supercilious"? I find it rather ironic that you use such hifalutin words and hold it against the writing in Kai or Ayres performance. You'd think that would be right up your alley. Armchair critic? Or you know, just critic. As if I can't watch something and come to a valid opinion based on what I'm hearing and seeing. I don't need to be an actor to have a valid opinion on acting, just like I don't need to be a cook to know that the food served to me might be overcooked.

I'm not entirely sure you know what bad acting is.

Any number of lines of Young's are as bad. Bad acting isn't difficult to spot or sadly that unusual. Do you think this is some special skill?

See, from that clip alone, how do you not see how god awful that performance is?

[VegettoEX]

So in short, this is my response to you from now on.

This is not OK, you know this is not OK, and this kind of dismissive nonsense won't be tolerated.

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(Is it possible for you two AT ALL to have a conversation without going for the neck? Can we refresh the forum page and NOT see your names in a constant back-and-forth? Can we please acknowledge how ridiculous this is? Better yet, can it simply end here and now forever?)

[KaiserNeko]

It's bad acting. Not necessarily terrible, but by no means good.

It's not necessarily even Linda; god knows the script and the direction are somewhere between half-assed and laughable. Everyone sounded bad then. It was a different time, with different people, and a different creative direction. She was always terribly miscast for the part of an male, aristocratic, sociopathic megalomaniac. She sounds unique, yes, but she also sounds like Genkai from Yu Yu Hakusho, only trying to sound manly. That's just not Freeza's character.

Christopher Ayers delivery is more nuanced, subtle, and realistic in comparison, and every bit the character of Freeza. He captures is condescending malice, his haughty air of superiority, and his petulance. This "gay British guy" vibe is a pretty ignorant summation of the interpretation; Christopher Ayers is a classically trained actor with more knowledge and experience in the field than likely any single one of his detractors on this forum combined. Every veteran voice actor and director I know who has talked about it has had the same opinion on the role, and the individual voice actors who played it: Linda is a wonderful woman who excels at certain roles, but she was always, always ill suited for Freeza, and Ayers knocks it out of the park.

If you feel differently, that's fine... but if you don't have a serious background in acting or at least the training to honestly debate the subject of the quality of acting? I'm probably going to just assume it's nostalgia goggles.

[Black_Liger]

Linda Young as Genkai is passable... but sadly, a Genkai with mutilated throat is the only thing I can hear in her Frieza, her dialogues are shit, he interpretation of the character is shit, HER VOICE FOR THE CHARACTER IS UTTER SHIT. Ayres All the way!