They could be attacked by a third party, Bulma would find out about it first, via Zuno. A small tournament arc seems too short. The Super Dragon Balls wouldn't even be displayed that much..., I think there's more to this. The Twinverse mention is stuck in my head and Super, so far, has proven to foreshadow events, which was rare in the original manga.Doctor. wrote:From the looks of things, it looks like Champa isn't evil, since he doesn't seem to have any second intentions with the Super DBs (since he's not hiding them from Beerus and even gives them as a prize). Which makes me wonder if the arc will have a villain, or whether it'll just be a fun 21st TB-esque tournament with little stakes (I mean, sure the Earths will switch, but does that really matter?).
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I find it interesting that Vegeta mentions Gohan's potential instead of his current power... maybe Piccolo & Boo are going to get some kind of special training to get stronger? They can still get inside the RoSaT (Piccolo has one day left), so maybe they'll get inside for a day each and train with Whis? That would be a good way to bring them close to Goku's & Vegeta's current level, since they can't become powerful gods like the Saiyans, and they aren't prodigies like Freeza. Though I have a feeling that Boo is gonna fail the test and Kuririn will take his place... It's gonna be hilarious if Piccolo & Kuririn surpass U. Gohan & SS3 Gotenks through training.
But it will be more than fair, even though I'm gonna feel really sorry for Tenshinhan & Yamcha if this happens.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Boo should have been good in his kid form....
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My impression is totally the opposite now. As alakazam^explained, Champa only mentioned he got six U6 SDBs. He's completely hiding the fact he was sneaking around the U7 collecting their SDBs behind everyone's backs just a while ago - and we know he managed to find, at the very least, one.Doctor. wrote:From the looks of things, it looks like Champa isn't evil, since he doesn't seem to have any second intentions with the Super DBs (since he's not hiding them from Beerus and even gives them as a prize). Which makes me wonder if the arc will have a villain, or whether it'll just be a fun 21st TB-esque tournament with little stakes (I mean, sure the Earths will switch, but does that really matter?).
It's Goku, Bulma and Vegeta who come up with the idea that might be, possibly, Super Dragon Balls in U7, as Champa didn't give them that info. i mean, why?
In fact, what if the reason they're not showing up on Bulma's radar is because Champa already has all seven from U7? Maybe they'll only find out when they meet this Zuuno person, and it could be too late. Either way, Bulma and Jaco will have bad news, as Champa took away at least one from U7.
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I also think Buu will fail the written test and I'm hoping that if Toriyama finally aged Goten & Trunks, maybe one of them can fight. (Hoping it's Goten. He has definite potential)
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Is there an actual translated version of the written story yet?
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No, but Herms has posted all the information from the chapter (start from the bottom).Makai wrote:Is there an actual translated version of the written story yet?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Buu won't fail the test, otherwise there would have been no point in including him in the team and saying Gohan's all about studies. On the off chance he does fail the test then couldn't that also mean that he can't qualify therefore they will be one man short? Doesn't necessarily mean they can have a replacement.
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Kinda disappointed Freeza won't be a U7 fighter. But I'm much happier that won't be the obvious saiyan fest that most people wanted: Goku/Vegeta/Gohan/Goten/Trunks.
Funny how people always complaining about only saiyans getting the spotlight and then wish for these things...
When I read Jaco, my reaction to Tights was the same to Tarble: Where this sister/brother came from?! If possible I would leave her out.
But once again, it will be funny to see the reaction of people that didn't read Jaco and still don't know nothing about her. Just like they read Minus without reading Jaco.
Personally I would still go with Goku/Vegeta/Freeza/Piccolo/Gotenks.
I also curious about the written test. Goku and Buu don't stand a chance, but Gohan in other hand...
Best part seems to be when Goku talks about Gohan. Like a good dad, he accepts Gohan's way of living and doesn't mind, if he doesn't follow after him.
Its a slap to people that think Goku is the worst father ever and to Gohan's blind fanboys that refuse to accept what he is.
About our favorite green man Piccolo, its time to go get that Namekian Book of Legends and get some power up!
And the strongest guy that Beerus fought was not Whis?! well, thats shocking to say the least. And another thing no one saw coming.
Bulma is by far the best female character in this series, so I'm glad Toriyama will keep her around.
Overall, seems to be another great chapter. At least Universe 6 arc, is living to the hype.
Funny how people always complaining about only saiyans getting the spotlight and then wish for these things...
When I read Jaco, my reaction to Tights was the same to Tarble: Where this sister/brother came from?! If possible I would leave her out.
But once again, it will be funny to see the reaction of people that didn't read Jaco and still don't know nothing about her. Just like they read Minus without reading Jaco.
Personally I would still go with Goku/Vegeta/Freeza/Piccolo/Gotenks.
I also curious about the written test. Goku and Buu don't stand a chance, but Gohan in other hand...
Best part seems to be when Goku talks about Gohan. Like a good dad, he accepts Gohan's way of living and doesn't mind, if he doesn't follow after him.
Its a slap to people that think Goku is the worst father ever and to Gohan's blind fanboys that refuse to accept what he is.
About our favorite green man Piccolo, its time to go get that Namekian Book of Legends and get some power up!
And the strongest guy that Beerus fought was not Whis?! well, thats shocking to say the least. And another thing no one saw coming.
Bulma is by far the best female character in this series, so I'm glad Toriyama will keep her around.
Overall, seems to be another great chapter. At least Universe 6 arc, is living to the hype.
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I'm thankful for the info, though I was kinda hoping for a full translated version from him like usual. I use it as the basis for my project because the only remaining alternative translation option is...questionable and...let's say gratuitous. Still, at least the having the tidbits in this manner means that I can make sure the important portions are accurate at least.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:No, but Herms has posted all the information from the chapter (start from the bottom).Makai wrote:Is there an actual translated version of the written story yet?
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Maybe he'll do a translation later. It's not like the leaks have been out for long, and maybe Herms is busy at the moment.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I'm thankful for the info, though I was kinda hoping for a full translated version from him like usual. I use it as the basis for my project because the only remaining alternative translation option is...questionable and...let's say gratuitous. Still, at least the having the tidbits in this manner means that I can make sure the important portions are accurate at least.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Nothing is said that they can't have a replacement for whoever fail, just that they have to find five people who can pass the test. Buu could do it, but then again, if no one fails what would be the point of introducing this at all? Just for laughs?Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Buu won't fail the test, otherwise there would have been no point in including him in the team and saying Gohan's all about studies. On the off chance he does fail the test then couldn't that also mean that he can't qualify therefore they will be one man short? Doesn't necessarily mean they can have a replacement.
Maybe Toriyama doesn't want to use Buu, but if he hadn't, everyone would wonder why Goku and Vegeta didn't pick him. So at least, if he's out, there will be an explanation now.
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My thoughts/questions on the info we got so far:
1. Why can't Whis use his stick to locate the centre of the universe and they now have to find this Mr-know-all guy that Jaco suggested?
2. Why can't Whis travel to the centre of the universe fast and is Tights' spaceship better/faster than Whis?
3. Eventually we get confirmation that the four "galaxies" were four quadrants of the universe containing multiple galaxies.
4. What was the reason Champa was collecting the Super Dragonballs in the first place? Yeah OK I get it Champa would now use them to transfer Earth to his universe (presumably the ordinary dragonballs cannot do this) but he only learned about Earth from Beerus NOW. Why was he collecting them thus far? What was his previous motive? It simply can't be to get the Earth.
1. Why can't Whis use his stick to locate the centre of the universe and they now have to find this Mr-know-all guy that Jaco suggested?
2. Why can't Whis travel to the centre of the universe fast and is Tights' spaceship better/faster than Whis?
3. Eventually we get confirmation that the four "galaxies" were four quadrants of the universe containing multiple galaxies.
4. What was the reason Champa was collecting the Super Dragonballs in the first place? Yeah OK I get it Champa would now use them to transfer Earth to his universe (presumably the ordinary dragonballs cannot do this) but he only learned about Earth from Beerus NOW. Why was he collecting them thus far? What was his previous motive? It simply can't be to get the Earth.
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Buu is kind of haxxed in a tournament due to his high stamina and endurance, so maybe you're right.
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Ummmmmmmm why not have Gotenks instead of Piccolo?
He is way stronger.....
He is way stronger.....
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Perhaps Buu absords Piccolo. Buu becomes stronger and smarter and pass the test! And then they can bring up Gohan for the extra fighter
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Maybe because Gotenks is technically 2 fighters, and the fights have to be 1 vs 1.MasterVampire wrote:Ummmmmmmm why not have Gotenks instead of Piccolo?
He is way stronger.....
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Maybe Bulma never told/asked Whis?.Speedster wrote:My thoughts/questions on the info we got so far:
1. Why can't Whis use his stick to locate the centre of the universe and they now have to find this Mr-know-all guy that Jaco suggested?
2. Why can't Whis travel to the centre of the universe fast and is Tights' spaceship better/faster than Whis?
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He's a stupid kid that dicks around and accomplishes nothing. Gotenks has no interest in fighting, fighting is simply a medium through which he dicks around.MasterVampire wrote:Ummmmmmmm why not have Gotenks instead of Piccolo?
He is way stronger.....
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Well, you brought a good point for sure. But I think is too soon to call U6 Arc or the universes concept as a totally DBM rip off. Let's see how things play out first.Bullza wrote:You know I'm kinda surprised that this whole time I haven't seen anyone on here or elsewhere complain about this ripping off Dragon Ball Multiverse.
I'm not saying thay it did but considering all the complaints about "Toriyama running out of ideas" leading to reusing Freeza, palette swaps for new forms and then a fat Beerus I thought for sure I'd see people complaining about this Universe 6 tournament being some kind of ripoff of that DBM manga.
Wow... This is pathetic. They really want to dismiss Gohan all the way out in the series. There's no respect for him anymore, how unfortunate.saunasolmu wrote:So... from what it seems, Vegeta suggests to use Gohan because he has the highest potential and Goku basically offs him and says that Gohan is useless![]()
OMG. This is wrong in so many ways... I mean are Goku or Vegeta on drugs? I can understand Boo choice even though I find retarded since Gotenks could easily take his place, but Piccolo? Really what is these guys problems with Gohan? Piccolo is below a SSJ-Tier, why would he be there instead of Gohan? Is like Gohan slacked off so much that he's now weaker than Raditz? Wow... I can't believe, even Vegeta says that Gohan could be useful because of his hidden potential and Goku cuts it in a totally irrational way. If Piccolo can be useful, can train with Whis and get stronger too, imagine how Gohan could be too. Disappointed for sure.alakazam^ wrote:Beers and Whis aren't part of the team, Buu and Piccolo are.
I would pretty much enjoy if we had that character development of Freeza in RoF.JulieYBM wrote:This is kind of what I was hoping for when Fukkatsu no F came out. Freeza begrudgingly accepts he can't defeat Gokuu and Vegeta but realizes that training has already take him quite far so he decides to retreat to train more. Of course, part of Freeza's charm was that he didn't change and for that he died. Then again, having the Trunks from the Future kill Freeza also pretty much tossed out the good ending Freeza got on Namek, so I suppose anything is possible.
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