"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[derpgoku]

People seriously need to stop talking about gotenks,he can't enter, he is 2 people ,if the time runs out they would be disqualified.

[Gyt Kaliba]

OMG. This is wrong in so many ways... I mean are Goku or Vegeta on drugs? I can understand Boo choice even though I find retarded since Gotenks could easily take his place, but Piccolo? Really what is these guys problems with Gohan? Piccolo is below a SSJ-Tier, why would he be there instead of Gohan? Is like Gohan slacked off so much that he's now weaker than Raditz? Wow... I can't believe, even Vegeta says that Gohan could be useful because of his hidden potential and Goku cuts it in a totally irrational way. If Piccolo can be useful, can train with Whis and get stronger too, imagine how Gohan could be too. Disappointed for sure.

I'm fairly sure the way it was phrased in that earlier post - 'Gohan is useless lols' - isn't how it's actually phrased. The reading another post had with Goku bringing up that Gohan's not a fighter in the strictest sense of the word, that he doesn't enjoy it the way they do, and that he has a peaceful family life now, is probably more accurate. And again, I don't see why this has to be seen as such a bad thing by everyone.

Gohan wasn't even 10 years old when his life started to go insane. Sure, he's willing to put his life on the line when need be, and probably will always be a skilled fighter, but he's never going to live up to his 'potential', because that potential doesn't interest him. Him suddenly turning into a battle addict like Goku and Vegeta and deciding to ditch his family at the drop of a hat to go get stronger, like the former two do - that would ruin his character, because that's not his character. Not in the least.

[Pannaliciour]

Wait, if Champa hasn't found all the dragon balls, and his team might actually win, Bulma can say: we didn"t found the radar. Why the rush of finding them in the first place by Bulma and co?

[dbzfan7]

OMG. This is wrong in so many ways... I mean are Goku or Vegeta on drugs? I can understand Boo choice even though I find retarded since Gotenks could easily take his place, but Piccolo? Really what is these guys problems with Gohan? Piccolo is below a SSJ-Tier, why would he be there instead of Gohan? Is like Gohan slacked off so much that he's now weaker than Raditz? Wow... I can't believe, even Vegeta says that Gohan could be useful because of his hidden potential and Goku cuts it in a totally irrational way. If Piccolo can be useful, can train with Whis and get stronger too, imagine how Gohan could be too. Disappointed for sure.

I'm fairly sure the way it was phrased in that earlier post - 'Gohan is useless lols' - isn't how it's actually phrased. The reading another post had with Goku bringing up that Gohan's not a fighter in the strictest sense of the word, that he doesn't enjoy it the way they do, and that he has a peaceful family life now, is probably more accurate. And again, I don't see why this has to be seen as such a bad thing by everyone.

Gohan wasn't even 10 years old when his life started to go insane. Sure, he's willing to put his life on the line when need be, and probably will always be a skilled fighter, but he's never going to live up to his 'potential', because that potential doesn't interest him. Him suddenly turning into a battle addict like Goku and Vegeta and deciding to ditch his family at the drop of a hat to go get stronger, like the former two do - that would ruin his character, because that's not his character. Not in the least.

Why does everyone who fights have to be a battle addict? I'm fine with what they chose to do with Gohan. In fact I like how Goku realizes he probably wouldn't want to fight, and doesn't push him into it. It's actually a pretty cool thing to see, in comparison to him just throwing Gohan at Cell when he was 10. But yet again I see so many people say that if he chooses to fight, he has to be a battle obsessed moron who ditches his family. Where are people getting this idea? Is it that unheard of to fight because you care about your family and planet? This tournament will decide the fate of earth. So that means good ol Pan and Videl will lose their planet if Goku's team fails to win. That alone is plenty of motivation to join. Not because HERP A DERP I MUST LUV TO PUNCH THINGS! What is so alien about having one person who doesn't want to fight just to get stronger and have a good time? Why must everyone be a Goku or Vegeta or Beerus or Whis. People who must love food, fighting, and have no life outside of that? Why must that be the criteria?

I'm glad Piccolo is getting his chance to maybe do something. I fear he's gonna be totally squandered though. I doubt Boo is going to be around much longer as he's never really advertised as much. Piccolo at least seems to be somewhat advertised as important. So he has some chance of maybe lasting for a little while. I still am not convinced the Namekian Book if Legends is anything but a throw away line. I think that's just Malik's DBNA giving people the idea he might do something similar to that. I think he will just get 5 days with Whis. Maybe his super Cyborg arc gains will be even more silly here this time.

[Sodhi]

Wait, if Champa hasn't found all the dragon balls, and his team might actually win, Bulma can say: we didn"t found the radar. Why the rush of finding them in the first place by Bulma and co?

Bulma is on a quest to find super dragon balls of uni.7, which is different than champa balls.

[Doctor.]

They actually won't be losing anything (that we know of). Earth will just go to universe 6 if they lose, it's not like it's going to be destroyed. The only ones losing anything would be Beerus and Whis. Gohan has no reason to join in the tournament.

[Sodhi]

This tournament will decide the fate of earth. So that means good ol Pan and Videl will lose their planet if Goku's team fails to win. That alone is plenty of motivation to join. Not because HERP A DERP I MUST LUV TO PUNCH THINGS!

Rules are only five people can join. So someone had to be omitted.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Why does everyone who fights have to be a battle addict? I'm fine with what they chose to do with Gohan. In fact I like how Goku realizes he probably wouldn't want to fight, and doesn't push him into it. It's actually a pretty cool thing to see, in comparison to him just throwing Gohan at Cell when he was 10. But yet again I see so many people say that if he chooses to fight, he has to be a battle obsessed moron who ditches his family. Where are people getting this idea? Is it that unheard of to fight because you care about your family and planet? This tournament will decide the fate of earth. So that means good ol Pan and Videl will lose their planet if Goku's team fails to win. That alone is plenty of motivation to join. Not because HERP A DERP I MUST LUV TO PUNCH THINGS! What is so alien about having one person who doesn't want to fight just to get stronger and have a good time? Why must everyone be a Goku or Vegeta or Beerus or Whis. People who must love food, fighting, and have no life outside of that? Why must that be the criteria?

I'd love if Gohan got to do something like that. You're right, to have a character that fights because he has to would be an interesting departure from our core cast of characters that fight because they enjoy it - even people like Piccolo and Tenshinhan, who are very much not in the 'goofy, eats a lot, loves fighting to a fault' crowd, are still martial artists that enjoy a good fight.

The thing is though, that's still just not Gohan. At least, not to the degree that he's going to actively seek out even further training. It would be nice if he would at least do enough to keep up his current level of power, and who knows, maybe if we ever get an arc where Pan is older, he might. But right now, he's a guy who's trying to get his life started better, with a newborn baby to think of, and he knows that as things stand right now, he would have to leave those things behind to get strong enough again to make much of a difference. So seemingly he's chosen that spending time with his family is more important, and he can most likely leave things to his father and Vegeta for now.

Or to look at it another way - in the events surrounding Beerus, the trouble came to them. Beerus showed up and was going to destroy the Earth - Gohan fought. With Freeza's return, the trouble once again came to them. Freeza was going to destroy the Earth - Gohan fought. This tournament is seemingly just going to be something fought "for fun" (even if having your planet swapped to an entirely different universe might not be 'fun' in some ways...), and it's not even going to take place on Earth or anywhere remotely near it - Gohan doesn't go, because there's nothing at stake. There probably will be by the end of it, and maybe he joins in in some form at that point, but as things stand now, he has no actual reason for going.

Is it a bad decision, especially if one wants to see more oomph out of Gohan? Maybe. But it's not as completely illogical as a lot of people seem to think it is.

[EpilefWow]

Buu is kind of haxxed in a tournament due to his high stamina and endurance, so maybe you're right.

So then you are here aswell...

[BrolyLSSJ]

If Krillin and the gang gets a boost that put them on par with Goku or Vegeta i swear.....

[Sandubadear]

Buu is kind of haxxed in a tournament due to his high stamina and endurance, so maybe you're right.

So then you are here aswell...

[dbzfan7]

They actually won't be losing anything (that we know of). Earth will just go to universe 6 if they lose, it's not like it's going to be destroyed. The only ones losing anything would be Beerus and Whis. Gohan has no reason to join in the tournament.

That is a pretty good point. I had not thought of that. As I said I am fine with the character choice. After all two saiyans is plenty enough. I'm just tired of the whole everyone must be of the same mindset if they want to fight. I also got what I wanted that I knew would happen as a new character will be on the team, and not fucking Freeza thankfully.

Why does everyone who fights have to be a battle addict? I'm fine with what they chose to do with Gohan. In fact I like how Goku realizes he probably wouldn't want to fight, and doesn't push him into it. It's actually a pretty cool thing to see, in comparison to him just throwing Gohan at Cell when he was 10. But yet again I see so many people say that if he chooses to fight, he has to be a battle obsessed moron who ditches his family. Where are people getting this idea? Is it that unheard of to fight because you care about your family and planet? This tournament will decide the fate of earth. So that means good ol Pan and Videl will lose their planet if Goku's team fails to win. That alone is plenty of motivation to join. Not because HERP A DERP I MUST LUV TO PUNCH THINGS! What is so alien about having one person who doesn't want to fight just to get stronger and have a good time? Why must everyone be a Goku or Vegeta or Beerus or Whis. People who must love food, fighting, and have no life outside of that? Why must that be the criteria?

I'd love if Gohan got to do something like that. You're right, to have a character that fights because he has to would be an interesting departure from our core cast of characters that fight because they enjoy it - even people like Piccolo and Tenshinhan, who are very much not in the 'goofy, eats a lot, loves fighting to a fault' crowd, are still martial artists that enjoy a good fight.

The thing is though, that's still just not Gohan. At least, not to the degree that he's going to actively seek out even further training. It would be nice if he would at least do enough to keep up his current level of power, and who knows, maybe if we ever get an arc where Pan is older, he might. But right now, he's a guy who's trying to get his life started better, with a newborn baby to think of, and he knows that as things stand right now, he would have to leave those things behind to get strong enough again to make much of a difference. So seemingly he's chosen that spending time with his family is more important, and he can most likely leave things to his father and Vegeta for now.

Is it a bad decision, especially if one wants to see more oomph out of Gohan? Maybe. But it's not as completely illogical as a lot of people seem to think it is.

Which is why I have wanted this dynamic for a long time. Someone who isn't a fighter just because they want to fight or because they think it's fun. A character who cares more about studying and living peacefully, but would do anything so he could go back to studying and seeing his lovely wives and daughters face each and every day. Someone who doesn't want their daughter Pan to ever have to go through what he did, nor have her live without a dad by going off and disappearing like his father would when he was training.

Well this tournament alone as brought to my attention won't put the earth persay in danger, so he really isn't needed anyways. Though to be honest a lot of this "training" has a super easy convenient way to shoot him up the ranks ala easy ritual. I actually wouldn't want him to leave Pan for a long time. In fact I'd be touched if he said something like he'd really like to help Goku, but right now Pan is just a baby, and he doesn't want her to not have a dad for a long time. That would be really touching. If he really wanted to protect her future, but first he didn't want to rob her of a father. He then puts his trust in his father to take care of things til maybe one day he can help again.

[Hellspawn28]

I look forward to Beerus personal fighter and the fighters from U6. I wonder if the Oracle Fish will become a powerful fighter ?

[dbzfan7]

I look forward to Beerus personal fighter and the fighters from U6. I wonder if the Oracle Fish will become a powerful fighter ?

I would be pretty happy if it was her. She then turns out to be far more terrifying fighter than you're let on to believe despite how tiny and cute she is.

[DI297]

These gohan and gotenks fans are really annoying, toriyama is giving us something different by making buu and piccolo train and and a brand new character into the team but since is not the same as always or basically a team of 6 instead of 5 they getting angry and saying this is stupid, no wonder why even some db fans cant stand the db fandom but anyway I'm one of the few that are happy with this team, I was hoping for buu to get in, to see strong characters that werent part of the z fighters and I knew gotenks could run out of time and get disqualified also knew that gohan wasnt going to be part of this since he is focused on his job and family. I would love to see piccolo getting a transformation after training and buu being able to turn intoa good super buu but I wonder if that mysterious character could be the old kai

[miguelnuva1]

I want Goku and who ever the Universe 7 fighter are to have a fight to send the series off similar to how Yusuke and Yomi fought or how Yugi and Jayden dueled just for fun.

I'm still holding out for U6 female Goku.

[ArchedThunder]

Sorry if someone has already said this, but I bet Zuno is actually the strong person that Beerus fought that will be joining the team, a person who knows "everything" seems like they could be an amazing fighter, and why introduce a new character JUST to find the center of the Universe? I bet they did this so that he can show up again at the tournament and surprise everyone.

Also I feel like the fact that Champa has been searching for the Super Dragon Balls for decades makes it seem like he has a sinister plan. I bet that Universe 7 wins the tournament and then Champa tags along with Beers and the gang as they go to get the final Super Dragon Ball and then Champa butts in and makes a terrible wish, starting up the next arc. He's searching for the final Super Dragon Ball in Universe 7, so maybe he's been collecting the Universe 7 balls and part of his wish will trap the gang in Universe 6 which would kick off the arc to find the Super Dragon Balls of Universe 6 that Toriyama said would be happening.

[dbzfan7]

Sorry if someone has already said this, but I bet Zuno is actually the strong person that Beerus fought that will be joining the team, a person who knows "everything" seems like they could be an amazing fighter, and why introduce a new character JUST to find the center of the Universe? I bet they did this so that he can show up again at the tournament and surprise everyone.

I hope Zuno is not an old pervert. We kinda had that gag already again with Elder Kaioshin which was funny enough. I don't want another old wise pervert. He can be senile instead to be funny, but not another old pervert. Though that's if Zuno is old.

[kidhero1000]

Words can't describe how happy and excited I am.

My boy Piccolo is finally back to battle and we also get Buu?



It's a shame about Gohan but it is in character at least. I'm also secretly hoping Kuririn tags along with Bulma and Jaco. That would be awesome.

Haven't read through most of the spoilers, but I hope for his sake, he's going to be receiving god training as well.

[FortuneSSJ]

You know I'm kinda surprised that this whole time I haven't seen anyone on here or elsewhere complain about this ripping off Dragon Ball Multiverse.
I'm not saying thay it did but considering all the complaints about "Toriyama running out of ideas" leading to reusing Freeza, palette swaps for new forms and then a fat Beerus I thought for sure I'd see people complaining about this Universe 6 tournament being some kind of ripoff of that DBM manga.

What fanbase do you think this is?! They already said that on youtube and social media, but not here. Don't underestimate this fanbase.
Today there's was already other people saying they are done with this and Toriyama is ruining everything, because Gohan is out and they don't accept it.

Gohan can't be his own character. He can't like books. He was to be another Goku just like Goten.